Barnburner Poll: Age of Legends

Discussion in 'Former Pro Player Talk' started by Chopin, Aug 13, 2013.

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Who wins between a 35 year old Agassi and 39 year old Ken Rosewall at the U.S. Open?

Poll closed Aug 23, 2013.
  1. Agassi

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  2. Rosewall

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  1. Chopin

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    Dear posters, come one and come all, to the greatest threads of them all!

    Who would win between a 35 year old Agassi and 39 year old Ken Rosewall? Both reached US Open finals at those respective ages. Rosewall was beaten decisively by Connors, while Agassi pushed Federer to four sets.

    I'd like to hear from PC1, who I'd also like to invite to a chess match, Limpin', members of Club Chopin, and any of the Old Guard. Even the Historians are welcome. Let's have a round-table discussion about this complete with tea, cake, light piano music and yes, polling.

    On a side note, let it be known that I'm looking for the 7 inch version of the Nike NET shorts (white and blue) in size medium.

    Kind regards,
    Chopin
     
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  2. Indio

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    I don't care what equipment is used or which surface the match is played on, but I can't see any result other than Agassi whipping Rosewall like Connors did. Picture Rosewall serving and volleying behind that pitiful serve against a returner of Agassi's caliber.
     
  3. Chopin

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    What weapons would Ken have at his disposal?
     
  4. BobbyOne

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    Chopin, His usual weapons that brought him 23 majors...
     
  5. forzamilan90

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    I'm in an awe of that original post, OP is firing on all cylinders.
    I think Agassi would take it, very reliable ground game.
     
  6. Chopin

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    I'm back, baby.
     
  7. Devilito

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    Agassi had textbook strokes and was such a pure ball striker that he would be one modern player that could play with wood without much problems
     
  8. forzamilan90

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    We've never met, but your legend looms large across these parts, some of your threads are quite something!
     
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    Tell me then, forzamilan90, where is Limpin Hitter these days? I much desire to speak with him.
     
  10. granddog29

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    Agassi would win. There is a big difference between 35 and 40, although both were well past their prime, Rosewall was much more so. Even well past his prime Agassi did nearly beat Federer most times they played, and I dont think Rosewall at 40 the year he was barely winning games from Connors would have done this. It is a testement to what great talents both were to still be as competitive as they were at those ages either way.
     
  11. big ted

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    didnt ken rosewall only have a slice backhand? i dont even think he could beat a 43 year old agassi
     
  12. forzamilan90

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    Sh1t went down hard. There was a "moment" of confrontation between him and BobbyOne and LimpinHitter was never seen again after that. Sad state of affairs, I thought he was objective in his posts.
     
  13. forzamilan90

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    Son....does an 80 mph backhand not sound terrifying to you?
     
  14. kiki

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    Very smart response
    Rosewall at 35 kept winning majors but at 40 was the Cinderella at both W and FH
    He was very competitive on fast and short lasting and comfortable grass
    Now, on slow to medium and hard and 40 yrs it is quite a different story
    Connors at 40 under the same circumstances got steamrolled by Courier
    When you are above 32-33, each tennis year is like 2
     
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    Might depend on the surface, Agassi definately wins on hardcourts, Rosewall maybe on grass. Although I'd give Agassi 60/40 odds of winning them both.
     
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    big ted, Does not have Federer a slice backhand? And he wins many matches with it. Rosewall did not have a slice bh only. Actually his bh was more of a hard hitting drive often.

    Rosewall at 40 was No.2 in the world. Agassi at 40 was???
     
  17. BobbyOne

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    Yes, especially when he indirectly called me a criminal (Günter Parche)...
     
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    Weak era ;)
     
  19. forzamilan90

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    I always thought if there ever would be an epic confrontation or banfest, it'd be between old school and new school, say if like kiki and i started started raging on each other. Never expected to see two old school guys in such a situation. I think I also may have come on you pretty hard in the past, never got in trouble though. Only got banned once for cursing out nadal slam king
     
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  20. BobbyOne

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    kiki, Rosewall the Cinderella when being No.2 in the world? Very strange.

    Rosewall kept winning majors at 37.
     
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    Weak era with Connors, Borg, Vilas, Laver, Rosewall, Newcombe, Nastase, Kodes, Orantes??
     
  22. BobbyOne

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    Forza, Limpinhitter was banned for his aggression.
     
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    I was messing with you, what year did Rosewall last end the year #2? It wasn't 74.
     
  24. NLBwell

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    Just as Connors was a terrible matchup for Rosewall, Agassi would be, also.
    Rosewall could beat guys like Newcombe, who in turn could beat Connors, but Rosewall had no shot against Connors.
     
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    Forget Rosewall - I would pay anything to see a 40yr old Pancho vs 35 Andre.

    Pancho had some legendary practice matches with Andre and bet closer in age would have whipped AA's but.
     
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    I ROFL at those that never watched live the effect that this BH had on opponents
    Opponents like Hoad,Laver and Gonzales who could forget more tennis than most if all current erers will be able to learn in their lives
     
  27. kiki

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    Oh Bobby!! You went so far? You were so nasty to Seles?
     
  28. kiki

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    I agree with you
    Now, if you just were a Led Zepp fan we still could manage it:-D

    Of course, not ppssible being a Zepplin fan if born after 66 or 67 At the limit
     
  29. kiki

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    Now it is quite amusing newtards believe oldtards do not have or have had as torrid or hatred discussions are they have with Nadal vs Fed fans or Murray vs Djoker
    In fact we used to have the very same discussions and beating
    There were Pro Laver and pro Rosewall fans
    Pro Borg and pro Mac
    Pro Connors and pro Mac
    Pro Becker and Pro Edberg
    But we all agree that 70 and 80 have been the funniest, greatest era to be a tennis fan
     
  30. forzamilan90

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    You could say the same thing for classical music. One ain't a Mozart fan if one was born after 1785.
     
  31. forzamilan90

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    If they invent a time machine, I'd make it my priority to check Rosewall first thing(challenging Andrew Jackson to a duel would be second)
     
  32. kiki

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    That´s the point and I second that.Great music has no age, it is only a matter of the listener...
     
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    One of the all time greatest rivalries was in the 60´s calcio: Gianni Rivera vs Sandrino Mazzola.Dividided the country for years...
     
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    Yes, I'm familiar with that. I've read up with great interest on Milan history, that part sounds awesome. By default, Rivera has my utmost respect. If I was alive and aware during the late 80s....I would have been in paradise watching Sacchi start the revolution.
     
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    Rivera was not only a great player, but a succesful politician and the sugar of italian women for years...
     
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    Francesco Totti could be a politician in the future, he is the emperor of Rome!
     
  37. BobbyOne

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    NatF, In the 1975 World of Tennis yearbook (covering the 1974 season) Rosewall is ranked No.2 ahead of Newcombe, Borg and Nastase. This ranking was made by "Tennis Pope", Lance Tingay.
     
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    NLBwell, You are wrong. Rosewall beat Connors 6-3,6-2 in 1972. In 1974 he lost to Jimbo only 5-7 in a WTT match. In 1977 43 years old Muscles lost to Connors in a great match 5-7,4-6,2-6.

    You should consider that both players mostly met in a tournament's final when Rosewall as a grandpa was rather tired...
     
  39. BobbyOne

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    kiki, I always take a knife with me to be ready for anything...;-)
     
  40. kiki

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    That is so true
    I think many Lazio fans would even back him
    But then there is the biggest and steadiest army in Italy
    TheJuve legion
     
  41. kiki

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    Yeah I figured it
     
  42. forzamilan90

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    Ugh you had to bring up the mafia
     
  43. NLBwell

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    72 was a younger (closer to peak) Rosewall vs. younger (farther from peak) Connors, WTT was, well, WTT, but Rosewall still taking Connors to 3 sets in 1977 is pretty impressive. Amazing how he could still play that well at that age. Still think it was a bad matchup for Rosewall compared to most other players.
     
  44. Phoenix1983

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    Agassi for sure.

    Look how Connors destroyed Rosewall in that final, and Agassi was even fitter than Connors...
     
  45. BobbyOne

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    Connors at 22 was stronger than Agassi at 35.
     
  46. kiki

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    That is pure common sense...which is the least common of the senses.
     
  47. BobbyOne

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    Rosewall lost in straight sets to Connors in 1977 but gave a magnificent performance.
     
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    I'm confident Agassi will pull out a win in my poll, which ends Oct. 31st.
     
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    At 30, I am a stronger analyst than you at 64...
     
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