Barring the seperation of his parents, is it impossible for Nadal to lose at RG?

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  1. Clarky21

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    Maybe make music videos? Or how about posing in his underwear? Maybe playing PokerStars? We all know he's got a lot of free time on his hands since he doesn't play tennis anymore. :lol:



    I am called a Nadal hater,too. The thing is I don't care,so they can say whatever they like.
     
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  2. Ms Nadal

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    I hate all those off court activities that Rafa does nowadays. Totally sickening! Rafa has won 7th RG now. He has done it all. He may never go back to RG. I think that he doesn't want to play anymore personally. Rafa is tired of tennis so RG titles may be done for him.
     
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    Get over yourselves. Sickening would be if he'd be going to bullfights, certainly not making a frigging video clip :rolleyes:

    I really don't understand what is it that bothers Nadal fans about that kind of thing (assuming for a moment that Ms. Nadal is a fan of Rafa).

    Rafa feels that way because of Toni's influence, and because he likes a challenge. Maybe Mustard knows exactly how many players express a preference one way or another. I can say my other favourite player, Ríos, always said RG was his favourite slam and he couldn't have cared less about Wimbledon...

    No, he's not. Why do you think Rafa has a much better record against the other top players too?.
     
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    So are you saying that Nadal is more talented than Fed,Cvac,and Murray? I really hope not.
     
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    Barring someone putting a gun to my head and pulling the trigger, is it impossible for me to die?

    That question is just as stupid as the one you asked. We're human beings, fallible and flawed.

    Nadal has been incredibly consistent at Roland Garros, but that doesn't mean he can't lose.
     
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    You haven't answered my question...

    Talent is a pretty impossible thing to define anyway. I sure think he's more or less as good as they are.
     
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  7. NadalAgassi

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    He holds every record that exists on clay, practically every tennis fan and every single tennis expert now calls him the clay GOAT, so yes he is the undisputed clay GOAT. If Federer is the undisputed GOAT like his worshippers such as yourself refer to him, then Nadal sure is heck is the undisputed clay GOAT as he is 5 times or more the clay GOAT than Federer is the overall one. Continue living in your dream World though.


    Then you are one of those who lives in a fluffy World with pink clouds like you apparently think Djokovic does (which is your own delusion as I am sure he is far stronger than you are, and anyway you are just BSing as always and trying to make excuses for your beloved idol). My grandparents are both in their 80s, and when they die it will be sad, but it will also be expected by all in the family, since that is what people 80 are over do at any moment, they die, and likely go to a better place. If you reach 80 you have already lived as long as expected, and anything past that is a bonus. It is not something that affects a normal persons daily life for months the way an unexpected death in the family at a premature time does.

    Monte Carlo was immediately at the time of the passing so naturally he would be more emotional then, but to somehow translate that to anything more is ridiculous and desperation on your part.
     
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    Just because he has a winning record(for now)against them,doesn't mean much,imo. One thing is does say is that they have met many times on clay,which usually favors Nadal. I still think Cvac is more talented as is Fed,and possibly Andy if he could get his head screwed on straight.
     
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    Not because the better player on that day beat him? Seems a bit odd.
     
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    That in fact does say a lot. He has also won many important matches against them on their best surface. That they're not as good on it as Rafa is on clay only speaks on favour of Rafa here.

    Also, more talented doesn't have to mean better.
     
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    [Looks at thread]
    That's an odd topic...

    [Looks at creator]
    Ah.
     
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    Actually, the opposite is true. This year Nadal played at 50% health. After withdrawing from the Olympics Nadal made the announcement that he'd never again unless he is 100% fit. Uncle Toni also said "we have been doing it wrong....We will not settle for bandaid solutions anymore...."

    So you won't see the 2012 version of Nadal in 2013. You'll see the 100% fit Nadal. Because when he has a problem, he won't play Miami. His problem this year started at Indian Wells and he forced himself to play Miami. No more of that.
     
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    Nadal will never be "fully fit" again.
     
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    Federer lost in the 1st Round of Wimbledon on 3 occasions. Grass never came as naturally to Federer as clay came to Nadal. Federer had to work on it, and evolve his game. Nadal, clay tennis is an inborn ability, even more than Sampras or Mac on grass.
     
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  15. RAFA2005RG

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    That's your only hope. January is very soon :D
     
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    Without practicing for six months.
     
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    Nadal is done winning slams.








    (OP reads this, has a heart attack and dies)
     
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  18. monfed

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    First off, Soderling beat Ralph fair and square,he hit him off the court.FACT.

    Now that we have the fact(s) out of the way let's just say Djokovic will get him next year, book it.
     
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    Totally agree. There isn't an event where Fed has a record comparable to Nadal at RG or Monte-Carlo. Mindboggling.
     
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    yeap! because Federer is an all surface player while Rafa is a clay court specialist who evolved his game to grass and hardcourts
     
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    nadal is coming off a long layoff..i would say he's more vulnerable than usual.

    djokovic is putting himself in prime position once again to take down nadal on clay.

    Djokovic is a player who learns lessons well. He lost to nadal in first slam final at usopen...then beat him the next time around...lost to him at masters tournament final, then beat him next time round...French Open???

    Djokovic will be match tough by the time the french rolls around next year...rafa?? not sure.

    Djokovic is my pick for RG...and this was even before the WTF this week.
     
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    Regardless of what they are, Rafa's records in those 2 events are 100% off the chart and Fed has his specialties too. 7 Wimbledon, that's pretty specialized. Still nowhere close to Nadal's record at RG. (And Nadal won some big ones off of clay too. More than Fed has won on clay).
     
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    Yep,he learns so well that he also lost to Nadal at the WTF that same year,and wasn't able to beat Nadal on clay until he started declining and Cvac found his magic potion. I think your post is a whole lot of waxing off and not much else.
     
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    Rosolitis? Benihana? Soderlingus?
     
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    Go find my posts where I say that Federer is GOAT. You will see that I have openly stated that Federer is NOT GOAT, he is only the greatest of his era. And there simply isn't a surface GOAT for that matter either, and he certainly isn't five times the clay GOAT that you think, that is just your blind worship coming through. Me continuing living in my dream world, my eyes are wide open, but it certainly looks like your are the one who is dreaming here. Neither is undisputed, people will always speculate how would he have done in other eras, with wooden equipment, going H2H with Borg. Heck, he didn't even go toe to toe with a prime Guga. Again, don't tell me what he MIGHT have done, it is all speculation. Yes, he won many many titles, and for me is the Greatest of HIS era on clay, and I respect him immensely, unlike your hatred for Federer, but never will he be undisputed. Keep the tardism for yourself.


    Again, you completely fail on all levels here. Fluffy clouds? LOL. What I am seeeing here is absolute tardism at its best from you, and I didn't quite expect this from you, because I think you are a good poster most of the time. Does not matter how you try to explain things logically when someone dies, you cannot fully control the element of emotion, because it does not work with logic. You can console yourself as much as you want, saying they are in a better place, but it can take time for your emotions to accept that. That is how human beings are. We not only think, we feel too.

    So a divorce, according to the troll who posted this thread is okay for you to accept. A grown man, crying about his parents divorce. That is okay, right? No reponse from you on that one? But, if someone loses a person they were very close to, then that is not okay? It doesn't effect them?. His grandfather sheltered him and his family through a very dark time in his early life, and he has spoken about how deeply connected he was to him...but that must be BS right? These guys are not human, they don't feel emotion, they don't feel pain? Whatever.

    You think I am taking away from YOUR HERO by saying this. That is the real truth of your response. I understand, because he is your idol. But I gave that troll the reply he deserved, for suggesting that Nadal is the only one vulnerable by events outside of tennis, when this is nothing but utter crap. And as I have stated, I lost my grandfather this year, so yeah, this touched a nerve with me. You haven't crossed that bridge yet...so keep your logic for yourself until then.
     
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  26. Sabratha

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    See: 2009.
     
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    Soderling blasted Rafa off the court, get over it. I think Novak would have beaten him if they had played at the 2011 French as well. It was also possible for Federer to beat him there at least once, but he couldn't sustain the level necessary. It is quite possible to beat Nadal at Roland Garros, just mind bogglingly difficult
     
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    Blasted Nadal off the court in a 4th set tie-breaker. Awfully close to 5 sets. And what happened after that? Nadal won 6 sets in a row over Soderling at Roland Garros (2010, 2011).
     
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    Janowicz in 4.
     
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    Yeah, while Soderling is in decline.
     
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    No, it was the 2010 Roland Garros final, and Soderling had defeated Federer already.
     
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    this forum need a clean up, but it must start from the top.... sadly mostlikely this very post will be censored but this whole thread will not!!!
     
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    In decline?, he was in his second RG final in a row, and had just beaten Fed.

    Nadal was injured when he lost to him and to Rosol. Maybe ****s need to deal with that fact.
     
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    Soderling only made the QFs of the 2011 Roland Garros, signalling a steller decline from his previous year of performance. Isn't that a decline?
     
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    No,he ran into Nadal and that's why he lost. Soderling couldn't even beat a Nadal who was playing some of the worst tennis he ever has on clay. That's his own fault.
     
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    Grasss never come as a natural surface to anyone. Players don't get enough exposure on grass during their young days for that to be a natural surface.

    Europeans play more on clay and Americans more on hard courts. So clay come as natural surface more to europeans and vice versa for Americans
     
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    Did you watch the match between Rafa and Soderling? If you haven't watched then go watch it and say all these nonsense. I have seen the match, Rafa was running around like a rabbit and Soderling blew him off the court on clay. He wasn't injured against Rosol either.
     
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    So are you claiming 2010 never happened? 2010, Nadal vs Soderling Roland Garros final, and Nadal won 6-4 6-2 6-4. Soderling in decline beat Federer in the QF?
     
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    2011 was a good year for Nadal, come on Clarky.
     
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    He was injured both times. You need to get help for your denial.


    And I hardly call a close 4 set match with 2 tiebreaks blowing someone off the court. Exaggerate much? Nadal played a horrible match while Soderling played near his best and he still nearly had to go 5 sets. Also,other than the WTF that same year,Nadal has beaten Soderling each and everytime they have played since,includiing twice at RG. I think you folks need to admit it was a massive fluke in 2009 and move on.
     
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    2011 was a horrible year for Nadal. He played crap,and the only reason he made it so far in so many tournaments was because everyone else was playing like crap too.
     
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    Will Nadal ever win as many Hamburg titles as Federer?
     
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    Yeah, the whole tour just sucks now :lol:
     
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    Yep because Murray losing to the likes of Donald Young and Bogomolov Jr. is the norm,and so is Fed losing to Melzer,and losing from 2 sets up against Tsonga at Wimby. He then lost again from 2 sets up at the USO after having 2 match points. Glad to know that you really do think the whole tour sucks and isn't capable of beating GOATS like DY ,Melzer,and Bogomolov Jr. even when they are at their best. You certainly don't think much of these guys do you?
     
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    I never said it was not a fluke. Rafa losing to Soderling can happen only once in 100 and it's certainly a fluke. By blowing off the court, I didn't mean it was one sided, just meant that he was hitting powerful strokes. Just like Berdych blew Roger off the court at Wimbledon.

    No, Rafa was not injured in his match against Soderling. He was running around without any trace of injury. I have seen the match. He wasnt injured against Rosol also
     
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    You pretty much did with your "blown off the court" comment. Nadal has beaten Soderling comprehensively in every single match they've played after that except for at the WTF in 2009,where Nadal is a notorious mug anyway,and didn't win a single set that year. That fact alone should tell you Soderling needed the perfect storm of playing out of his skin mixed with an injured Nadal who was on his last legs in order to beat him at RG. Or do you believe Soderling can beat an in form healthy Nadal at RG? All signs point to the opposite.



    If you think Nadal was moving well,and that his knees weren't injured at RG in 2009 and at Wimby this year then you must not watch him very much. And player's do not fake an injury only to be out months afterwards. You are still in denial.
     
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    When Nadal beat Söderling 60 61 in Rome, people here claimed that Nadal barely escaped that one :D
     
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    You're kidding? I wasn't around here then to witness the hilarity of a comment like that. :lol:
     
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    Rafa was playing great in 2011. Wasn't he first in the race, for that matter?.

    Yep, ****s are in denial about that. He was out for months both times, but I'm sure they can find some ridiculous explanation for that, other than him being injured.
    They like to think that Nadal just isn't good enough and that's why he's lost those matches, that players of his calibre don't lose except maybe once in their careers or something.
     
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