Basalt Wars: A New Hope

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  1. tistrapukcipeht

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    Are you a tournament player??

    Breaking racquets and strings like this is hard to believe.

    I haven't played with the yonex 89 tour , but I know a couple of people who do, so I'd look into that, Yonex quality is very very good.
     
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  2. J011yroger

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    Will do. I've been healthy for a year+, so ready to give tournaments another shot.

    Last thing yet to come around is my serve, but whatever.

    Thanks for the well wishes.

    J
     
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  3. J011yroger

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    I really want to for the heck of it. Currently break ALU in 45mins to an hour in my 90s.

    J
     
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  4. J011yroger

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    Yea, I am kind of a cross between the guy who is perpetually injured, and the guy who is his own worst enemy.

    Feels like at the ripe old age of 30 I am starting to outgrow both of those things, so looking to play some tournaments again.

    J
     
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  5. Power Player

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    Prestige Mid, YY 89, Wilson Blade Tour or bust baby. That's about all you got. But the Head grip shape won't have the magical. "Honey, I'm home" feel of the Wilson. The Yonex 89 is considered the Mid of the year by most who have used it, but it sounds like you are not feeling the brand. The Blades are coming out with a GoaTJob in terms of paint, so let me be the first to congratulate you on switching to the new Blade Tour.
     
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  6. J011yroger

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    I know the ground strokes won't really be a problem with the head grip shape since I float from continental to full western anyway. If it really bothers me on serves and/or volleys I will have to put Wilson pallets on.

    J
     
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  7. J011yroger

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    Oh, and that reminds me, one more thing about the blxps, all my mother*#%@*?$ buttcaps loosened up, which is maddening!

    J
     
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  8. klementine

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    This is alarming. Prince 03 blue and call it a day... :smile:

    Do you think the frames are buckling due to the weight coupled with the string tension? You did mention a PS90 busting at low tensions, but was this on the stringer or after play?

    I remember you played with some pretty heavy k90's and some ridiculously high tension hybrid of kevlar/alu. Have you ever had any shoulder or wrist problems? or tried playing with something lighter with a high swingweight, HH balance and loose poly, ala Ferrer?

    I'm really enjoying the PS90 thus far, it's a crisper n90. But that quote from the wilson rep is a bit troubling, 'replace the ones that broke under warranty'. Their business model, in regards to warranty replacement, is a crap-shoot for the consumer. Terrible.
     
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  9. klementine

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    To clarify.

    It's a crap-shoot for the consumer because they realize that there is flaw and instead of fixing that potential flaw, they gamble on the warranty expiring.

    Terrible.
     
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  10. rdis10093

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    give yonex a try. they are the best.
     
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  11. J011yroger

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    I broke 2 stock weight ones under kevlar. Been playing my normal nodded ones with full poly Bbo/alur at 50# to try to give the frames a fighting chance.

    J
     
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  12. J011yroger

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    I was not happy to hear that. Big part of the reason I am so turned off.

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  13. klementine

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    ^The more I play with the PS90 (brief stint with the K90), the more I realize that no other frame shares the 90s prowess on serve and up at net. Nothing plays like them, which I'm sure you know already. It would be very difficult, if not impossible to suggest anything.

    If you're 'bent' (excuse the pun) on leaving them, you'll have to get used to a completely different set-up. You'll have to adapt and move on.

    Quite sad really.
     
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  14. J011yroger

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    Yea, I mean since 2005 I've bought what, 60+ Wilson frames, 20+ bags, and who knows how many thousand Luxilon stringjobs.

    J
     
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    Great point by Klem as you will have one of the tightest patterns ever in the Prestige and may not like the same string setup in it anyway.
     
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  16. Pickle9

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    You single-handedly put your stringer's kids through Ivy League colleges.
     
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  17. J011yroger

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    Yea, I anticipate having to string it really loose to get a similar launch angle to my Wilsons.

    As much as Kevlar loves to be strung tight, BBO loves to be strung loose.

    J
     
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  18. J011yroger

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    Or at least covered their bar tab.

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  19. Power Player

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    Full bed of 4g in the Willy before you toss it aside?
     
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  20. Fed Kennedy

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    Jolly you should try the vcore 95...its stiff and the head is just as narrow as a k90...it will take high tensions well.
     
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  21. SVP

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    I always enjoyed watching your videos, hitting with your K90, nailing the sweetspot almost every time. No sarcasm. That racquet had the sweetspot the size of a Louisville Slugger's sweetspot. Glad to have you back.
     
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  22. sansaephanh

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    Post links nao! I always enjoy watching people hit! I'd love to get a feel for how some of these members hit so I can more accurately assess their reviews. I'm really surprised there aren't more video reviews.
     
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  23. SVP

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    Because I was born in the same decade that Eisenhower was president, I am unable to post Jolly's link. I recall it was on vimeo. Is that still around?
    SSPH, you're the guy who likes BHBR, right? Me too.
    The reason there aren't more video reviews is that we're all too self-conscious about our skills.
     
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  24. J011yroger

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    Meh, the frames will cave anyway. I haven't been impressed with any of the new Luxilon string, but I'd give it a shot I suppose.

    J
     
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  25. J011yroger

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    Thanks, hope to get some new footage of the process of tinkering with the new frame.

    J
     
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  26. J011yroger

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    I'll have to get some new footage, haven't taken any in a couple years. Would love to see how my fh looks now.

    J
     
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  27. db10s

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    Maybe solinco revolution.... Or Dunlop Ice....
     
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  28. db10s

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    I don't care how old the footage is...
     
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  29. SVP

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    Can we resurrect the Jolly Guide to Strings?
     
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  30. J011yroger

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    Certainly don't need my permission.

    I was pretty happy with how it came out, too bad it got un-stickied.

    J
     
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  31. J011yroger

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    [​IMG]

    Trying to do the Berdych shirt proud...

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  32. J011yroger

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    Why do you suggest them?

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  33. 2ManyAces

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    J011y, can I have the link to the vid? Thanks
     
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  34. db10s

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    Dunlop because of the price.... I hit with it and it plays just like Alu Rough... And the Solinco, not sure, seems like you would like it though.
     
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  35. db10s

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    I looked through Jolly's posts but the videos that he posted were all private
     
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  36. J011yroger

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    Would have to be something that bites a ton, and lasts longer than BBO.

    I break most normal poly in 45min-1 hour of full speed drilling.

    Re: Solinco, I have absolutely hated with a passion every Solinco string I have ever had forced upon me. It feels ok when you are warming up or hitting half court, but once you actually swing at the ball it does absolutely nothing.

    J
     
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  37. J011yroger

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    Haven't taken any in a couple of years, will see what I can do in the coming weeks.

    J
     
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  38. db10s

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    If you want an idea of how it plays, think of Alu Rough that maintains tension. Similar durability. Much cheaper.
     
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  39. Pickle9

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    La la lala!
     
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  40. 2ManyAces

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    :cry: that's scary
     
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    I only know one guy who breaks strings as fast as you, and he's using ALU Rough in a IG Prestige Mid. He says nothing compares to that feel for him. I have a feeling you guys would be good friends! :razz:

    That being said, are you not going to be using the Jolly Rig in the Prestige's? I might have missed it...

    -Fuji
     
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  42. J011yroger

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    ALU, (rough or smooth) is in my opinion the gold standard for poly. Everything else is a pale imitation.

    BBO, really grew on me once I figured out that I was stringing it too tight.

    I think I am going to use the Jolly Rig II (BBO/ALUr) in the prestiges, as I doubt they would hold up to Kevlar.

    I had debated switching to the prestige instead of the BLXPS, because the BLXPS felt like absolute garbage when strung with the kevlar (perfectly fine with poly however) and my stringer said "You break K90s, and nobody breaks K90s. Everybody breaks prestiges..."

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  43. J011yroger

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    It's always a good time!

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  44. J011yroger

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    This was the weekend that pushed me to Kevlar.

    [​IMG]

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  45. db10s

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    Why don't you string your own frames?
    In a match I can break 17g poly in 1.5 hours.... If I'm really on my game....
     
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  46. J011yroger

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    It's not worth it to me. I can make more doing something else with the time I would spend stringing than I pay.

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  47. T.P3D0R

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    Are the racquets breaking from excessive stringing, or from brutal playing/racquet smashing.

    Just curious...if it's from stringing - you could have a talk with your stringer...
     
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  48. J011yroger

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    They just caved in between the drill holes. Mostly at 12 oclock.

    No abuse at all.
     
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  49. rdis10093

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    there are other guys on here that know more about strings, but is that bad for frames is you just leave the broken strings in them and dont cut them out. I thought that caused uneven tension and could warp racquets. that might be killing the life of your racquets a little early.
     
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  50. T.P3D0R

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    That's crazy... I'd have a talk with your stringer. I used to play with the 2010 BLX 95s and strung them (myself) very frequently, but never had any issue with caving. Primary issues included the PJs getting scratched up very easily.

    Also, when I broke polys, I clipped all of the strings right after the break to relieve stress on the frame.
     

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