Becker's most disappointing defeats

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  1. srinrajesh

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    Hi
    What do you guys consider as his most disappointing loss
    Being a huge fan every loss of his was bad but i have compiled list of 10-12 losses that were most upsetting

    All of his wimby finals defeats ..
    88, 89 loss to edberg and 91 loss to stich when he was overwhelming favourite
    95 Wimby final to sampras as the sentimental favourite 10 years after winning in 85

    92 wimby QTF loss in 5 sets to Agassi
    99 loss to Rafter in 4th round in straight sets

    French open 89 SF to edberg -- wud have easily overpowered chang in final and won a clay court and career slam

    Shock defeats as defending champion

    87 2nd Round shocker to Peter Doohan
    90 US open SF to Agassi led 3-0 career i think at that time
    Aus open
    92 3rd round to McEnroe
    97 1st round to Moya

    But personally His loss to Gerard Solves in 1998 in chennai open 2nd round hurt me a lot even though he was past his prime as i was courtside and he lost
     
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  2. Joe Pike

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    He didn't lose the 89 Wimbledon final to Edberg. Actually he thrashed him in 3 sets.
    And even if he had beaten Edberg in the FO semis that year - Chang would have been to good for him.
     
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  3. David_86

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    Lendl's destruction of him in the 1986 Masters Final cut Becker down to size. Since the US Open that year Becker had been on a hot streak winning 3 indoor tournaments and bragging that he would consider himself the no.1 player in world if he won the Masters. Also the media was all too willing to give him Lendl's crown. Happily Lendl destroyed him in straight sets 6-4 6-4 6-4, losing only 12 points on serve and not facing a break point.
     
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  4. krosero

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    Defeats at Wimbledon in 90, 91, 92. All disappointing.

    All his losses to Agassi.
     
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  5. timnz

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    Becker would have won Roland Garros 1989

    Have to disagree. If Becker had got past Edberg that year - he would have beaten Chang. I base that on the quarter finals they played two years later at Roland Garros Becker won 6-4, 6-4, 6-2. In fact Chang only ever one 1 match against Becker their entire head to head.

    Becker tactic was to overpower Chang. It worked!

    You may say that Becker never won a Clay Court title. Well in 1989 he was in a zone in the Major Championships. In terms of match ups Becker had it far easier than Edberg against Chang. Whereas he won only 1 match against Becker his entire career Chang won 9 against Edberg (12 to Edberg against Chang). Becker - Chang is 5 to 1.
     
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  6. heathcliff

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    according to an interview with becker the most dissapointing defeat to him was the 1990-wimbledon-final-loss to edberg. when he converted a two sets to love deficit into a 3-1 and 30-0 lead in the final set and lost the 5th 6-4.
     
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  7. hoodjem

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    In 1989 Becker beat Edberg: 6–0, 7–6(7–1), 6–4.

    In 1988 and 1990 Becker lost to Edberg in two great, classic matches: one hard-fought four-setter and one great five-setter.

    Losses yes, but not all disappointing IMO.
     
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  8. boredone3456

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    the 1990 Wimbledon final is the first match that comes to mind for this thread.
    1986 YEC Final
    Maybe the 1996 YEC Final...he played a heck of a match and still lost to Pete in 5.
     
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  9. BorisBeckerFan

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    Every Becker loss was disappointing to me. In particular the Edberg losses at Wimbledon.
     
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    Wimbledon 91 loss to stich :(
     
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  11. Borgforever

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    ^^^ Yup. Some quick thoughts.

    It's good that I am anonymous because I guess some Swedes would come after me with the pitch-forks when I say this:

    I do admire Stefan enormously but I do admire a player more who can win when he's not "on" -- and Stefan did fight greatly and won many times -- but he seemed more "on" dependent than Boris and Ivan who by pure will-power and great grit could prevail when things weren't clicking so well -- IMO -- and when it came to Wimby 1990 I was on Boris' camp -- heavily -- and man did I get scolded for that from my friends.

    It was not a pretty scene I'll tell you. The traitor they called me :-D

    There's really very few elite players that dislike, I love 'em all almost.

    But I did like Lendl and Becker a tad more than Stefan -- so if Ivan or Boris won I was equally happy.

    But Boris had much more potential IMO than what he realized. I adore his technique -- it was so defined, the motions so clearly enahanced -- on all shots -- and I truly believed he was going to become a heavy-duty GOAT-contender and thought his clutch was stronger than Stefan's.

    So yes -- there's no room for me to name all the disappointing losses that Boris had. I don't know what happened really with Boris. I know some things, but I don't want to speculate...

    I must point out that when I played Boris once, in 1988, and I hung out with him a bit around those years -- he was extremely nice and had no "airs" or silly ego. A truly a great guy so it was tough for me to see him "go down" when I thought he shouldn't...

    Wimby 1990 and particularly Wimby 1991 was really disasters in my mind. Let's not talk about it....

    Anyone with the name initials BB gets the okey-stamp from me -- just kiddin' :)
     
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  12. Borgforever

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    i have to be 70 years old to know this.
     
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  14. Steffi-forever

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    Yes, it is the most disappointing lost for him probably.
     
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  15. grafselesfan

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    Wimbledon finals of 1990 and 1991 are up there. Most dissapointing of all though surely was his loss to Doohan at Wimbledn 87 when everyone was betting the farm on him 3 peating.
     
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  16. grafselesfan

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    Honestly I think that was a match he felt like a winner even though he lost. He was past his prime and still took maybe the greatest player ever Pete Sampras to one of the most amazing 5 setters in history. Sure he would have prefered to have won but I dont think he was deeply dissapointed given what he accomplished that day all the same.
     
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  17. srinrajesh

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    sorry meant 90 final loss to edberg at wimby

    No way chang cud have beaten him-- remember Boris was at his best form in 1989 and chang at 17 wud have been overpowered
    H2H --Becker leads 5-1 Vs Chang including a 4,4,2 thrashing at french open in 91 on clay!!
     
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  18. Mochel10s

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    I am surprised that no one has mentioned his loss to Muster in the Monte Carlo final. I think he was up 2 sets to love and serving for the match and ended up losing in 5...
     
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  19. srinrajesh

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    Exactly.. This was probably one of the best matches in ATP history .. Sampras has called Boris the best indoor player he has played in his life...
     
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  20. srinrajesh

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    remember reading an interview where Boris admitted he lost focus in 90 final .. he started thinking about raising the trophy after getting the break in the final set and it turned out to be a fatal mistake ..
     
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  21. srinrajesh

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    Some of his other emotional defeats include rafter at Wimby 99 in his last grand slam

    loss to Thomas Muster in 95 Monaco final after holding 2 match points and going for a big second serve and double faulting in the tie break
     
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  22. urban

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    Maybe his one on one with Ermakova on the London doorsteps.
     
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  23. boredone3456

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    I think you may be right. Becker was past his prime by 1996 even though he had fought his way to winning the Australian Open earlier that year I don't think anyone he would do what he did against Pete that day in the final. I think though that since it was his last Hurrah and was one of the best matches he played in his career its still must have been disappointing that he lost...although losing to Sampras by such a close scoreline during Sampras's peak must have been something for him considering how he was past his own.
     
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  24. bluetrain4

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    I like Edberg as much, maybe even more, than Becker, but I agree that his game was much more delicate. He did have to be "on" moreso than a lot of players because he couldn't hit his way out of a match or hit a lot of aces. If the serve-volley was off, he was very capable of poking around in the backcourt and waiting for his chances, but he was never going to be hitting tons of groundstoke winners.

    Sometimes I'm amazed that even though Becker has a dominant H2H with Edberg, they basically ended up with a pretty similar career overall in terms of Slams (and Edberg was actually in more Slam finals), overall titles (Becker has more, but not by much), Davis Cup, etc.

    They matched up well with completely different players, which I always though was interesting.
     
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  25. mctennis

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    I saw him play doubles at the ATP event in Cincinnati in his " come back" tour. I can't remember what year it was. I took off work to see him play. That was the worst disappointment in playing I've EVER seen. I should have charged him for me to watch him play. He stunk up the place he was so bad. LOL. I always liked BB but that was such a letdown. I still use Volkl racquets though.
     
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  26. Darth_Timmaayyy!!

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    If we are going to get into a love fest. Then as a kid, my coach used to get upset that I was always changing my technique. So one day he says. Who is your favourite player? And I said Boris Becker.. So he then tells me that for a whole month that I had to pretend I was him and imitate his style. Back hand, Forehand, Serve everything.

    To this day I have never changed my technique and it was the best thing my coach ever said to me, because I went from just playing junior tournaments, to winning them.. And I never experimented or changed again.. I am now 35, and I still hit the exact same way, serve and all...

    I even used the Puma Boris Becker Winner all my junior career until injury and burn out at 19. Although until recently, I had been given all versions of that frame over the years and still had some of my old frames, but I sold them to collectors..

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