Becoming a professional player?

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  1. krprunitennis2

    krprunitennis2 Professional

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    How do you become a professional player? As in the steps to becoming one.... Do you have to join specific tournaments to move up in ranking/stuff like that whatever?

    1. Starting out as a school player.

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  2. damasta55

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    If you're at step 1, you're probably too late. You start at an early age. You train everyday. You play usta tournaments and be top in state, and then join itf and start playing some tournaments. Some ppl after 18 go to college and play only college tennis. Some are good at 18, and they start playing satellite/challengers, eventually making it or not to the top-tier tournaments. Some go to play sattelites/futures/challengers after they play a couple years in college. You can become a pro player anytime, you just may not get very far. You have to qualify to play at the itf sanctioned tournaments, unless granted a wc. Even if you do qualify, you may get blown away in the first round.
     
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  3. power_play21

    power_play21 Semi-Pro

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    so to put damastas comments in order

    1. play a lot since young

    2. join tennis academy

    2. play USTA tournaments

    3. Get a top sectional, national rank

    4. Apply for ITF Pin to sign up for futures / challengers events (id say at 15 or 16 yrs old here)

    5. Get farther into the draws on futures

    6. move on to challengers

    7. Get farther in the draws

    8. Start playing qualifying for some international seris once you get enough atp poitns

    9. get farther in draws of intl seris

    10. play a a grand slam 1st round

    11. play masters series

    12. win intl series

    13. win master series

    14. win grand slam

    15. Be federer.
     
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  4. westy

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    seems easy enought:) ;)
     
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  5. na2b

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    How old are you anyway? And from where?
     
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  6. krprunitennis2

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    14, in California. I'm around 3.5 NTRP with a forehand close to 4.0 level. Started playing last year, June.
     
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  7. LASVEGAS ACES

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    Sorry, you have a better chance raising an army and taking over the world.
     
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  8. blakesq

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    becoming a professional

    You can get good enough to go to college on a tennis scholarship. And even if that doesn't work out, you can become good enough to teach tennis for a living. Good luck.

    Blakesq
     
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  9. krprunitennis2

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    :cry: Blast, I have no chance of ATP?
     
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  10. westy

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    seriously, th guys ranked in the 200's and 300's have been playing since they were 4 or 5 years old, only some guys started later then this. hewitt didnt start until he was 16.16!!! now he must just be one hell of a talented!! he could have become a professional aussie rules football player, like his dad and grandad, so he was just an immensely talented sportsmen!!
     
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  11. Kabob190

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    i guess the only way to be a pro is to have a mike agassi type father. cuz no 4 year old is gonna take tennis seriously.
     
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  12. westy

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    at age 4, its more about fun. but even this improves coordination, court awareness etc preparing them for when tennis become more serious
     
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  13. Kabob190

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    the parents would still have to play a huge role in the pros tennis career. i dont mean just paying for racquets, lessons, etc. but actually making the kid play.
     
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  14. westy

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    yes, the expense for the parents would be great, but the parents shouldnt make the kid play. if he.she enjoys it, he/she will continue to play, if not they will stop
     
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  15. Dashbarr

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    starting basic, just-for-fun tennis at 5, playing to learn and get better at 11, and first tournament at 13 and a half good enough ya think?
     
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  16. brayman9

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    that is what i did and everyone said i started USTA's to old. Is 13 to old?
     
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  17. Kabob190

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    not considering that i started them at 16
     
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  18. Dashbarr

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    yeah, but kabob, are you a pro?
     
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  19. 300Gkid

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    yes, well, starting at 13 is probably too late, most pro's start tournaments at 7 or 8 and are naturally talented besides. Its not too late to be thinking about a Scholorship though, if you dont mind, whats your ranking?
     
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  20. Dashbarr

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    dont have one yet, as i said, first tourny starts the 26th. im not great, but i guess im decent.
     
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  21. krprunitennis2

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    REALLY?! Hewitt started when he was 16?! :-D Guess I have to work really hard then!!! Kk, can you guys explain to me how people move up in the region/state/national ranking thingies?
     
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  22. Paul1993

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    Even if you do start at the age of 13 and are a 3.5 NTRP rating a year later there is absolutely no reason to give up trying to turn into a pro no matter what these guys say. Part of the road into becoming a great tennis player is confidence and believing it will happen. I started tennis when I was 10 and started actually getting into it when I was 12 (at the start of this year) and I am still striving to become a professional player because I still have a slight chance.

    My advice would be to play as much tennis as you can atleast six days as week for as many hours as possible. Recieve atleast one or two private lessons a week and particiate it lots of state tournaments.
     
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  23. Kabob190

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    ya, actually i am. wait no, im awake so the answer is no.

    odds are against you, by a long shot. but you still have a chance which makes it worth it to try. and if you fail whats the worst that can happen? your still a better player for trying to go pro. i guess the only advise i can give you is to play every day and train hard.
     
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  24. krprunitennis2

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    *counts money for private lessons and tourneys... oop, nah, don't have enough money even for lessons....

    But thanks! :-D Two of my friends and I were actually going through the problem but through all the encouragement, my friends and I are actually planning to go to our school coach and...try to ask him for "lessons." Thanks for the encouragement, ideas, and personal experiences!!!

    --P.S. Thanks also to westy for saying that Hewitt started when he was 16! This boosted our morales!
     
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  25. superman1

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    Um, no. Hewitt was winning ATP tournaments at age 16. He started playing when he was very young.

    Rios was pretty old when he first picked up a racquet (older than 10, I think), so if you work your ass off and just hit balls all day long and transform your body into a machine, it's not impossible. The first step is getting off this message board and basically living on the tennis court for as long as it takes to become a monster out there. You have to approach it very systematically. Know all of your strengths and weaknesses, and watch the pros and see what works and what doesn't work for them. Watch a lot of pro matches and analyze how the points are constructed, and develop your game around that. For example, if you like how Agassi runs people side-to-side and then goes behind them and puts them off balance, learn how to do that. Learn every shot and strategy in the book. Spend at least half your time developing your serve. I have no personal experience with this, but that's what I would do if I had any desire to pursue tennis as more than a hobby.
     
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  26. [ GTR ]

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    Really? I saw a picture of him when he was only 2, in his nappies holding a tennis racquet on a court. The book said he started very early as well as playing aussie rules as you mentioned. I think at some stage maybe around 12 years old he had to pick which sport to focus on and he decided he had more control in tennis and chose it.
     
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  27. maverick66

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    never understood the your to old to try and play pro attitude. yea if your 20 and never touched a racket ok thats one thing but if your 13-14 that gives you four years before college is even a thought plus if you if you paly at a solid college thats another 4 years of tough matches. at that point your only 22 with 8 years of experiance you could make a good run at being pro at that point. its not impossible to start late and catch up you just have to work harder than everyone around you witch is usual for a pro anyways.
     
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  28. PurePrestige

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    If you wanna go pro look into buying an nCode 6.1 95, O3 White, or one of the many Babolats. Those will best facilitate your rise in skill and match play ability. If you're starting late these racquets have the most wide range of appeal and will let you play your own style because they are less restricting.
    If you are starting late you won't have the luxury of picking any racquet and growing into it and gradually modifying it to fit your needs. So to better that, one of these racquets is really quite good off the shelf.
    I'm not saying any of these racquets are inherently better for pro play but they are simply more universally appealing for junior and pro games alike and may help people to transition from a low level NTRP to a higher level of play in less time.

    Also, one important factor to note if you wanna go pro late as a junior. As our friend Nick Bollettieri says, regardless of skill level and starting age the most important thing is to have the physical ability.
    So if you're a smaller guy without much physical prowess and you have the detriment of starting so late. You might wanna reconsider the whole deal.
    Though if you can't be deterred, grab yourself a POG OS and astound us. Like Rochus or Spadea.
     
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  29. PimpMyGame

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    My son started playing a year ago when he was 7. In a year he's got gold, silver or bronze in numerous tournaments and has already turned out for the county.

    I started playing when I was 13. I'm not bad. Not great, but not a bad club player. My son has better technique than I could ever wish for. Sorry to say that unless you're uber-talented you won't be a pro. Keep it up though, a career coaching is definitely achievable.

    Good luck whatever happens. And above all else enjoy your tennis.
     
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  30. Dunlop300

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    Ive read that there is a 10,000 hour rule of thumb that states you cannot really become an expert at anything or top of your field (tennis included) without 10,000 hours of training. If you do the math depending on what age you start that requires many many hours a day -

    In Mike Agassis book on Andre he claimed that Andre hit for 6 hours a day everyday from age 7 to 13. That would put him at 15,330 hours already by age 13. You can see why he turned pro at age 16.

    It is tough but if you start at age 14 you can have that number of hours by the time you turn 21. That is 6 hours a day everyday of the year for 7 years. Good luck and just do it.
     
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  31. krprunitennis2

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    wow.... That's just torture...(no more running practices for me, or homework). lol jk. But I'd try to do my best at playing the most that I can and thinking on how to make things right.
     
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  32. Duzza

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    No, that comment is absolute BS. He started his pro career when he was 16 and beat Andre Agassi. He won his first tournament at 16 IIRC. He had played for a long time parallel to AFL though, and just decided that Tennis was the option. No Pro can start at 16, in real terms.
     
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  33. Duzza

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    He was also ranked no.1 in Boys 18 which is freakishly good for Australia at age 15.
     
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  34. krprunitennis2

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    ^_^ If I'd be like him, I have to be #1 in Boys 18 then...XD I haven't even played a tournament.

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    Iono why I didn't hit some shots on the rise...if so, it would've been easier for me. But it was windy that day.
    Btw, does it look like I'm 3.0-3.5 on these vids? I self-rated myself and I always over/underestimate myself.
     
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  35. schaefferm46

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    sorry to say this but hewitt started playing when he was a young kid and he was one of the best in austrailia but when he turned 16 he decided to drop aussie football and focus on tennis
     
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  36. Techniques

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    Yeah. Hewitt turned pro at 16 years of age, won his 1st ATP tournament which was in his home town (Adelaide). He beat Jason Stoltenberg in the final... who was world number one at that time. HE WAS ONLY 16!!!...
     
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  37. Duzza

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    Actually at 13 he dropped footy.
     
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  38. PimpMyGame

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    It seems that a lot of top sportsmen often have at least two sports they excelled at, at an early age. Hewitt's one of many, if you're destined for greatness you have a choice! Some guys have all the luck!
     
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  39. Duzza

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    SO many of them do. The amount of guys I've heard that were almost Pro Soccer players!
     
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  40. tamdoankc

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    most of the guys I played with when I was 13-14 were already 4.5-5.0's. they all ended up playing for Div1 schools. high school tennis was a low priority since they spent most of their time playing nationally and training. turning pro takes more than hard work. you have to be freakishly talented even to be in the top 500. look through the international junior rankings throughout the years at every age group and you'll only see a handful that's made it. Even less for US juniors. One kid stands out in my head, Scott Humphreys. Everyone remember him? Was the #1 international junior and beat Mark Phillipusous for the junior wimbledon title. i'm not trying to discourage you but it will be very difficult. Even if you did start tennis at 4. Best bet is to join a tennis accademy full time and get a full ride to college.
     
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  41. krprunitennis2

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    Would it be impossible to turn professional w/o spending lots of moolah??
     
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  42. the1337azn

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    nice videos, you're footwork doesnt look that great though. hey what part of cal do you live in? im in the socal
     
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  43. krprunitennis2

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    =D SO. CAL TOOOO!!!!!! ^_^ :-D :-D :-( But I don't play in tournaments so I probably don't know you unless you live in this chic place that I live in (that one word should give away where I live ^_^).

    Got an old video here too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a4CLymTKXs
     
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  44. maverick66

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    no its not, as someone who is trying it gets expensive. its not an easy road. u travel to some pretty crappy countries for a few points. money adds up with traveling and training and basic living setup. i got lucky and have a father who can afford to help me.
     
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  45. the1337azn

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    uh you from Chico? Nah i dont play tournaments anymore i barely started playing tennis over the summer, but i made varsity. Our school always makes League though. Um so what highschool do you go to? Im in the VC
     
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  46. The Gorilla

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    wheree did you read this?is it true?Could anyone tell me if this is true,it isn't up on wikipedia.
     
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  47. Duzza

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    Gorilla, it's not true. He won his first ATP Title at 16. Read the posts after it by me :lol:
     
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  48. krprunitennis2

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    ERHS here, but I'm not playing until next year
     
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  49. jmsx521

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    That might explain the lower-back problems he's having, while McEnroe -- who didn't like to practice -- is still playing now.
     
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  50. the1337azn

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    Why aren't you playing this year?
     
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