Best all-time match-ups.

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  1. Paul Murphy

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    List your favourite all-time match-ups and if you feel energetic say why they are.

    1) Lendl v McEnroe - plenty of feeling between these two - and the classic duel between a superb serve-volleyer and a killer from the baseline.

    2) Connors v McEnroe - disliked each other a lot of the time -there was always a decent chance of an explosion. Connor's return versus Mc's serve.

    3) Borg v McEnroe - Wimbledon epic - changing of the guard.

    4) Federer v Djokovic - a work in progress but Fed troubles Djok - I just wish the great man was a couple of years younger.
     
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    Agassi v Sampras - worlds best returner against worlds best server :D
     
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    Always Lendl vs McEnroe
     
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    Borg-Connors
    Borg-McEnroe
    McEnroe-Lendl (these two guys REALLY hated each other)
    Borg - Vilas on RED CLAY!!!!!! bring drinks and food and enjoy the afternoon.
    Vilas or Borg - Gerulaitis.....always good
     
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    Any match between

    Hoad/Laver/Gorgo/Muscless

    any match between

    Borg/Lendl/Mac/Connors

    Becker vs Edberg

    Gerulaitis vs Lendl

    Connors vs Tanner

    Nasty vs Laver

    Newcombe vs Roche

    Ashe vs Laver

    Sampras vs Agassi

    cash vs Wilander/Lendl
     
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    ...Lend vs Becker and some Lendl vs Wilander or Lendl vs Edberg, too
     
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    rafter vs agassi gave some nice matches...
     
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    No brainer: The Rocket vs. Muscles! Nothing else comes close!
     
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    Ali vs Frazier ? Magic vs Larry ? Nicklaus vs Player ?...Nixon vs Keneddy?

    USSR VS USA¡¡¡
     
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    Connors vs. Lendl, showed unusual animosity toward one another and at the time, probably the biggest groundstrokes on both sides of the net.
     
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    Panatta vs Connors, while often overlooked, provided very exciting matches.Stockholm,RG,USO.Their 1978 encounter at Flushing is a classic of the event.
     
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    The greatest matchup and the greatest tennis, without a doubt:
    Gonzales vs. Hoad, 1958 and 1959
    The two greatest players ever, going at it for 136 matches over 24 months.
    The only qualification for this awesome display is that Hoad's back hindered his play for about 25 of the matches, which more than accounts for the difference in the final tally (74 to 62 for Gonzales, although Hoad held an edge in tournament meetings against Gonzales, especially at Forest Hills (2 to 1 for Hoad), Roland Garros (1 to 0 for Hoad), Kooyong (1 and 1). Years later, they met at Wimbledon in a three-set marathon, reviving the old glory.
    These two players usually were inspired to their best tennis against each other.
     
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    This is definitely the match up I am missing the most not to have seen it...did you see them around 1959 or 1960?

    Other great matches I missed seeing from the far past:

    Tilden vs Cochet
    Kramer vs Gonzales
    Vines vs Crawford
    Budge vs Perry
    Sedgman vs Kramer/Gonzales

    each would be worthy a lot of bucks...did you see any of´em?
     
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    edberg vs. krickstein / chang ... always great match-ups
     
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    I was eight or nine years old at the time of the Hoad/Gonzales tours. However, there are clips available on historical DVD's of Hoad and Gonzales. There is a posting of Vines and Crawford from the 1933 Wimbledon final on the internet, from close-up at courtside.
    Kramer did not allow television of the major pro tournaments in the late 1950's for fear that it would hurt ticket sales, so the great Forest Hills tournaments were not captured.
    However, ABC (Australian Brodcasting Corporation) televised a 1962 Hoad-Rosewall final (won by Hoad), and the 1963 Kooyong matches between Laver and Hoad (a great five-setter won by Hoad) and Laver and Rosewall (Laver won in four sets). These still exist in the ABC archives, and should be released.
    The 1967 Wimbledon Pro, including the Hoad-Gonzales match, was televised by BBC, and should still exist in their archives. BBC has recently been releasing many telecasts from the 1960's, including the great 1964 Hamlet, so they do respond to public pressure.
     
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    tNAKS

    Thanks.Some of us are glad to find an even older ( but young at hart) tennis seasoned fan.

    From the point of view of spectacle, I have few doubts that Hoad is up there with Laver,Mac,Connors,Nastase and Gonzales.
     
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  17. Xavier G

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    Some of the best have been Borg-Connors, Borg-Mac, Mac-Connors, Mac or Connors-Lendl, Mac-Wilander, Lendl-Wilander, Lendl-Becker, Becker-Edberg, Lendl-Edberg, Lendl-Cash (spelling them out helps you remember how good they were), and more recently the matches involving the Federer, Nadal, Djokovic and Murray quartet.
    Top three (in any order on a given day!) would be Borg-Connors, Borg-Mac and Mac-Lendl, with Mac-Connors fourth.
     
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    If you're gonna go there:
    Green Bay Packers vs. Baltimore Colts
    USA vs. USSR
    Johnny Valentine vs. Red Bastien
     
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    Rosewall-Laver
    Borg-Connors
    Connors-McEnroe
    Tilden-Cochet
    Tilden-Lacoste
    Budge-von Cramm
    Gonzalez-Hoad
    Federer-Nadal
    Djokovic-Nadal
    Nastase-Stan Smith
    Rosewall-Hoad
    Evert-Navratilova
    Wills-Lenglen
    BJ King-Goolagong
    Evert-Goolagong
     
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    Great list ,pc. I thought King - Goolagong H to H was pretty lopsided. I'd have picked Court - Bueno instead. Not enough love for Bueno at TF though. Quite the gifted but star crossed champion.
     
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    You're right, King-Goolagong was lopsided but the rallies were fun to watch.

    I agree with you. Court and Bueno should be there too.
     
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    Court-King, Court-Bueno just great.Don´t know about King vs Bueno.They probably played less major finals between them.
     
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    Tomic v Dolgopolov - Two unorthodox players....
     
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    Wavrinka and Vavrinec...SO MUCH FOR TV BROADCASTERS¡¡¡
     
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    This could go non stop.What if we goo field by field...

    Mc Cann Erickson vs JW Thompson

    Procter&Gamble vs Unilever

    Mozart vs Beethoven

    Thor vs Hulk

    Spaghetti vs Kich Lorraine

    Apolo vs Sputnik
     
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    Dan Lobb,

    I think that Laver vs. Rosewall could match the Hoad/Gonzalez matchup. The two little giants played 182 matches if we can trust Old Man and many finals
    (Laver leading clearly) and 17 matches in big events (GS, Pro GS, Masters and WCT finals; Rosewall leading 10:7) on highest level.
     
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    Vilas - Noah. Always great matches.
     
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    And the tennis?

    Mauresmo v Clijsters
    Mauresmo v Henin
    Agassi v Sampras
    Sampras v Rafter
    Agassi v Rafter
    Capriati v Serena Williams
    Seles v Graf
    Djokovic v Federer
    Sampras v Becker
     
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    The Hoad/Gonzales matchup was 136 matches over 24 MONTHS, a marathon affair, condensed into the peak years of both players. Hoad claimed that Gonzales hit his absolute peak in these two years, and the same was true of Hoad himself.
    Laver/Rosewall was spread out over ten years.
     
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    Mandlikova vs Navratilova, Evert vs Austin were great, though short term rivarlies, too.I also enjoyed many of Martina Hingis matches against Davenport,Seles,Graf,Capriati and Kournikova.

    Of course, Graf vs Seles ( and some matches vs Sanchez and Sabatini) were also paramount.

    The best rivalry, maybe the only real ones, over the last years have been Sharapova vs Williams, Venus vs Serena and, a notch down, the two belgians.But not as good as those of the 70´s, 80´s and 90´s that put women´s tennis in the international map.
     
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    Why do you put the belgians 'a notch down'? too few major finals?
     
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    Possibly so.In Europe, their rivalry is more a political thing than a tennis thing.Flamish vs wallons, you know...
     
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    Totally agree! I think this match-up is the closest i've ever seen to real hatred.
     
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    Pancho Gonzalez and Tony Trabert weren't exactly fond of each other.
     
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    I got the impression that Connors may have hated losing to Lendl more than anyone else.
    They really didn't care for each other in the least.
    I remember Connors being disgusted (rightly) at Lendl's tank in a Masters to ensure he avoided playing Borg.
    Connors wasn't backward in saying what he thought.
     
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    " Chicken"....

    BTW, a classic moment was when Connors and Lendl exchanged words during their 1984 Wimbledon semi...great show from Connors, and acid humour from Ivan, too.Unpossible to find it nowadays.
     
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    Do you also remember Connors v Lendl at the 1984 Benson & Hedges Wembley semi-final, which Lendl won in straight sets?
    Connors offered Lendl a fight at one changover, saying "come on big boy let's do it now"?! Lendl replied by saying to the umpire "are you going to let him talk to me like that"?!
     
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    Some unheralded rivalries:

    Lendl vs. Leconte
    Becker vs. Gilbert
    Wheaton vs. Gilbert
    Solomon vs. Dibbs
    Evert vs. Richey
    Sabatini vs. MJ Fernandez
    Austin vs. Jaeger
    Navratilova vs. Zvereva
     
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    Hahaha.Didn´t know that one.

    It is typical Connors far west style and Lendl extremely acid sense of humour.
     
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    Did anyone know there is guy online that has a library of pretty much every important match since the beginning of the 'Open era'?
     
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