Best Careers for Tennis?

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  1. HunterST

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    I was trying to think about which careers allow for a person to play and compete in tennis the most.

    It would have to have a good amount of free time, but also pay enough to cover the pretty hefty expenses of tennis. I know my club has a ton of doctors.
     
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    hitting partner for a top WTA pro.. gotta be good and love traveling but you'll be financially set
     
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    I don't think any of the doctors chose the profession thinking of free time. That comes much later if they are in private practice and can take weekends off, or leave work at 5 pm. For most, by the time they get to this point in life, a lot of life has gone by.
     
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  4. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Hahaha, that's got to be the most demoralizing job ever though.

    There you are, busting your behind off, and then the pro across the net is really just toying with you. Hahahaha.
     
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    Real estate agent in Beverly Hills/Bel Air/Newport Beach? Probably sell a lot of houses while on the courts.
     
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    I've got a great job. SysAdmin. I love the company I work for, and I have a great boss. The pay is good, I can work from home whenever I like, I take off in the middle of the day to play a few sets, have a gym in my office…I get to represent my company in tournaments. It's great.
     
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    If someone were to choose a career, something he'll be spending let's say anywhere from 40 to even 80 or more hours a week doing, based on how it will facilitate a few hours of tennis a week, he might need my (psychiatric) services. Your life is a bit too precious to waste like that.
     
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  8. sureshs

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    Don't agree at all. I was reading that there is a new generation of yuppies coming up who don't believe in the "work ethic" nonsense any more. They are putting their lives first, and taking on jobs which give them free time.

    There are lot of senior people working right now who are also doing that, only they won't admit it. I know people who work for the government so that they can play tennis. I am not kidding. I play with a guy who works for IT in the local Marines base as a civilian, and he said he basically has no work to do. He is ready to play from 4 pm every day. More sophisticated people take on similar jobs in state/federal govt, non-profits, retail etc but pretend it is very tough.

    Others essentially do the same thing, but through trickery. They try to fool the boss that they are working by sending an email, or dump work on their subordinates and take off.

    Recently, a colleague told me that he has advised his daughter to get a college degree and job with the main goal of not working after 5 pm or on weekends. This guy has spent a lifetime in an industry where he could never do this.

    I agree it will not work in medicine or surgery, but the goal must be to play tennis, not work.
     
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    Private lessons coach.
     
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    Physical therapist. Its a pretty flexible job, and pay is good depending on location, and how many jobs you want to take up. You can make anywhere between 100-300 thousand easily. You pretty much are your own boss too, so you pay yourself depending on your hours you're working and you don't have to actually work 8+ hours a day to get 8+ hrs a day pay.
     
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    Are those guys really making much money? They probably get paid travel plus a certain rate per hour on court for practice, but don't see them getting paid as much as the player's coaches etc.

    IMHO - tennis pros spend a lot of time on court but it seems that very little of it is spent actually playing tennis, just a lot of feeding and observing.

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    Seems like the TW folks get on court pretty often. Can't hurt that they have a indoor court at work. ;)
     
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    Nursing.

    School is not that expensive nor very long, high demand after school is done.
    Make about $500 per day and work only 3 days (that's what my sister in law is doing anyway).

    cons: 12 hour day. Might have to wipe peoples butt or get vomited on. Death by incurable mutated monkey/chicken flu hybrid virus. HIV infection because some crazy person flips out when you are trying to poke them.


    Alternate---

    Marry a doctor and be a trophy spouse :D
     
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  13. sureshs

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    Private practice psychiatrist in Beverly Hills
     
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    Very true. As a high school coach and Certified pro, I spend a ton of time on the court. Most of that time is feeding balls and light rallying. 2 problems with that:

    1- It takes away from "playing" time
    2- After coaching/teaching, I'm sometimes burnt out and don't want to see a yellow ball for an hour, day,...
     
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    Marry rich and don't worry about a "career."
     
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    Milk the system like half of the country already does and play all the tennis you want. Or work for the government....same thing really.
     
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    I wish I had gotten the advice 21 years ago. I really mean that. I wish my parents had told me this very bluntly. But they didn't - instead they were into utopian advice of doing your duty and working hard and honestly for a living and raising a family through tough times. Total BS. Just because they did it does not mean I had to do it. I would rather have a lot of money without having worked for it, and then do whatever I wanted with my life - not the kind of work which people tell me is good because it benefits them or fits into their world view.
     
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    Any "job" that gets a paycheck is an automatic nonstarter. You need to own a business and hire people to do the actual work while you play tennis.

    Don't believe me? Ask Larry Ellison...
     
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    Alas, the lesson of this thread is that it is less about which career and more about being very successful in that chosen career.

    Being successful gives you the money, flexibility and free time needed to play lots of tennis!
     
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    Being successful gives you more money, but less time to play tennis.
     
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    Well, I'm with your parents. Giving kids the advice: "become one of the top 5%" without any advice on what it takes to do so, is a disservice to your kids.
     
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    Any link to where you read about this?

    I think the 8 hour workday is insane in a lot of industries. Most of the time people are not even working.

    A lot of people are starting their own businesses. I already have been doing that..one biz at a time. I can make over $100 an hour that way but you have to be patient until those work hours add up to a nice income.
     
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    Where exactly is it mandated that you should work hard to earn money? I see no problem in someone just living off his inherited wealth or marrying into a rich family. It is what good/bad stuff that he does that is important.
     
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    In my field, it is the other extreme. If you compete with or supply to the Asian giants, you realize very soon that they work 12 to 15 hours a day, and on weekends.
     
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    Which is good if I need to skype a manufacturer for inventory :)
     
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    Adopt rich parents, and be a trust funder.
    Or do like I did....live your life, forget the future, do ALL the sports you want for as long as you think you can still improve.
    Of course, hitting a plateau always sucks, where decisions need to be made, and the grass is always greener on the other side........ next sport.
    And life style certainly can suck, as you can only stand SO many $25 cars in one lifetime.
    A change your thinking. A perfect dinner can be a 2 liter bottle of 7up and a 4 buck bag of DoritoTacoFlavor chips.
     
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    ^^^ that only works when you have soc sec and medicare to back you up in old age, AND don't have a family to raise during the years prior to that
     
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    Well, if it worked for everyone, it wouldn't be any fun, would it?
    And if you chose career, kids, family, black beemer and white mercedes, you chose your own path.
    I was shaping 3 surfboards a day, twice a week, for my income in years '74 thru '78. That took a total of just about 2 hours per day. Rode an old 3 speed bicycle and drove a '67 BuickSkylark. Played tennis 6 days a week.
     
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    Yeah but if your parents had done the same thing (not have a family), you wouldn't be here
     
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    So what you are saying....
    We all should follow the herd's track before us, so we know where to go, perpetuate the species, and conform to the average. The good of the masses as opposed to the individual good, right?
    If my parent's didn't work hard and had kids, where would I be? I'd be fine! Right where I was, and probably headed for another parent's life. We shouldn't go there, religion being the cause of most evil and all.....
    How about....the buck stops here. How about...end of the line. What difference does it make in the long run? Will our species survive if there is one less LeeD in the world? Of course it would.
    Then if ONE person decides something akin to mutiny vs society, what would happen if EVERYONE decided the same thing?
    FATE? Water seeks it's own level? What will be, will be?
     
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    Why would you jump to this conclusion? If your income is fixed at one hourly rate for life then you are right - you have to work more to make more.

    But that's not really success is it? Success scales from owning a piece of the action, having others work for you (yet still increasing the size of the pie), making more per hour of work every day, etc.
     
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    As a few have mentioned, a lot of the non-MD healthcare fields (RN, PT and OT, Pharmacy) are great ways to earn a good living with flexible hours, while leaving ultimate responsibility to the MD. Combine that with good spending habits and you'll have plenty of time for tennis.

    My wife is an RN and voluntarily took 4 years off after the births of our kids. She went back to work half-time just before our 3rd was born. I have worked full-time + for ~ 10 years as a nutrition prof combined with ~20 hours/week inpatient and/or outpatient clinic work as a dietitian. Now my wife has a great opportunity to go full-time and we'll reverse roles a bit, as I'm dropping the clinic gig and cutting back to a bare minimum teaching schedule. She has a good amount of experience in OB/GYN and will make $55-60/hr in California, working 3 12-hr shifts/week. Do I work hard? It doesn't feel like it, though I did work hard to get to this point in life.

    The best thing we ever did in life was to act like we only ever had one income. Never had more than one car payment at a time, paid cash for everything possible, maxed out 403b and 529s for the kids, spend reasonable amounts on vacations, Christmas, etc. Our home purchases were determined by never going over 25% of monthly take home income for one person's salary for the mortgage. We could drive nicer, newer cars (I have a 2011 Volvo XC70 T6 that suits me just fine) and have a monster house but never really wanted those things. One of us could quit working completely (which we have considered) and be just fine. All at the ripe old age of 38. :) Work hard to play hard, the saying goes.
     
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    There are PLENTY of great paths for the journey that is called life.
    Find the one that works for you, and on your deathbed, you will have no regrets, no "what if I'd", and always be in peace.
     
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    Or as a co-worker at a past miserable job told me, "They won't put 'He was a great employee' on your tombstone". :)
     
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    Sure and being healthy and good looking is cool too. If only life was that easy...

    My point is, if your "plan" is to marry into the top 2% of women (financially), certainly you are going to have a 50 times lower chance of finding the "right" person, on every other scale than money, than your friends who don't limit themselves in such a way. Sounds like you are cool with that though.

    Hint: the parents of daughters with serious $ have prepped them about golddigger types for over a decade before they meet you...
     
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    LOL...some of you "adults" are still blaming your parents for your own life situation. At what point to you take responsibility for your own choices? Its kind of a counter-productive attitude to being a tennis player.
     
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    Try being a serious surfer, if you want parental conflict into your middle age.
     
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  38. Rogael Naderer

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    I absolutely 100% agree with you!

    Work to live, don't live to work.
     
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    And amen to that.
     
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    Teaching school is good because you get out in the afternoon and have summers off. At my club, we have a number of doctors and dentists who play a lot but are older and established in their professions.
     
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    Does anyone still get satisfaction from doing a great job at whatever they do?
     
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    ^^^ This... Such an underrated option.

    Alternatively, you could become a tennis player. They tend to play a lot of tennis...
     
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    Yes, but supervising the "others" becomes a time killer.
     
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    No. People are picky about jobs these days. Those kinds of advice was good in the artisan era. A guy cobbling a shoe would get great satisfaction from producing a great shoe. Today, most shoes are made where manufacturing is cheaper, and such ideas are old-fashioned. Money is the most important factor (and always was, once the tinted glasses are removed).
     
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    Recent poll just showed that 85% of Americans report being dissatisfied with their careers...so you'll pardon us who wanna smack people like you in the face!

    Ha Ha...just kidding..but good for you, consider yourself lucky!
     
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    The idea that career is a fit for you is fundamentally wrong. A career is a fit for the economy and the circumstances, with a few notable exceptions.
     
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    Apples and oranges. 85% of folks hate their jobs. But a job is not a career. Way less than 85% of professionals, that is people with a... profession, are dissatisfied with their career.
     
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    Yes, of course. Satisfaction is elusive, but when it comes, it is always welcome. A project executed well, software written beautifully, a paper that genuinely contributes to science or technology: These things are within the reach of many people working or doing business today.
     
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    I've found this to be false. The more I teach tennis, the less time I find to work on my own game. Plus after teaching all day, it's a lot harder than you think to motivate yourself to get back out on the court.


    I teach middle school. Talk about an awesome schedule. Out by 3 everyday, snow days off (to ski) and summers off for tennis. Has to be one of the jobs with best schedule for tennis.
     
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    Just don't have kids, problem solved. All the tennis you could ever want.
     
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