Best Counter-Puncher in History

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Best ATP Counter Puncher

Poll closed Apr 18, 2009.
  1. Federer

    1 vote(s)
    2.7%
  2. Sampras

    1 vote(s)
    2.7%
  3. Nadal

    19 vote(s)
    51.4%
  4. Edberg

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Borg

    4 vote(s)
    10.8%
  6. Llendel

    1 vote(s)
    2.7%
  7. Agassi

    9 vote(s)
    24.3%
  8. Other, list your person

    2 vote(s)
    5.4%
  1. deltox

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    Who was the best counter-puncher in history?


    My vote goes to Andre Agassi - He was known for taking even 100+ mph forehands on the short hop and driving them instead of volleying them. Even roddicks 140 MPH serves were attacked by him at the slam when roddick was #1 and he was #11. He had insane ball vision and picked up shots way early by comparison to most other players.
     
  2. VivalaVida

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    hmm, I never considered Andre to be a counter puncher. He had really big ground strokes, kinda like safin and he hit tons of winners rather than retrieve.
     
  3. lawrence

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    fed and sampras are counter punchers :S ?
     
  4. VivalaVida

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    I didnt know edberg was a counter puncher. :-?
     
  5. Breaker

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    The only people on that list who MAY be considered counterpunchers are Borg and Nadal.

    Think Hewitt as the prototype counterpuncher.
     
  6. deltox

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    i dont see sampras as one. i guess i dont associate serve and volley with attacking an offensive shot.
     
  7. icedevil0289

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    I'm pretty sure fed, sampras, and edberg are not counter-punchers. I wouldn't really consider agassi one either.
     
  8. JeMar

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    This list needs some work.
     
  9. deltox

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    ok, so maybe im thinking of a counter puncher as a different style of play

    to me a counter puncher is one to takes a shot made by the opponent as an attempted winner or really strong shot, they take the shot in an attacking of offensive way to try to win off an attempted winner.

    counter punchers imo, attack big first serves etc.

    am i wrong in my definition?

    for instance, i consider nadal as a defensive person, who just grinds out points, where as counter punchers make points as short as possible.
     
  10. JeMar

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    A counter-puncher is more like a player that uses his opponents' pace, doesn't make a lot of errors off the ground, moves the ball around and mixes up the spin in order to keep his opponent from getting comfortable during a point. Murray is a modern example of a counter-puncher, with Hewitt being the best iteration from the last generation.

    What you're thinking about are aggressive baseliners and even serve and volley players.
     
  11. deltox

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    after looking the definition up i think there isnt really a category for what im thinking.

    my bad totally guys. guess i totally misworded this one.
     
  12. BreakPoint

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    Where are Hewitt and Chang? :confused:

    Murray is also pretty good at absorbing and redirecting pace.
     
  13. clayman2000

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    With all due respect, this is horrible

    First of all you cant spell Lendll's name
    Sampras - S&V
    Federer - agressive basliner

    Nadal is not a counter puncher. IF you dont believe me watch his match against Roddick at IW.

    Hewitt should be on this list

    Agassi was anything but a counter puncher

    even the Borg's and Lendlls were not pure counter punchers
     
  14. tsongaali

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    counterpuncher list without hewitt=FAIL:)
     
  15. whoopinstick

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    Why wasn't Hewitt up there? I thought he was a better counter-puncher than all of those guys.
     
  16. sliderman365

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    SIMON probly the best counter-puncher in tennis right now
     
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    michael chang
     
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    Aww yikes... scratch the above ... I can't edit it ?? -.-
     
  20. Warriorroger

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    I voted Nadal, but calling him a counterpuncher is not doing him justice. I think counterpunching ended with Hewitt.
     
  21. NotSoSuper

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    Of the players in the poll, nadal is the best. But why didnt you add somebody like hewitt or chang?
     
  22. Serve_Ace

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    Simon is a pretty good counter puncher if you ask me
     
  23. ShcMad

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    I'm sorry but I found that a little ironic and funny at the same time. :)
     
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    Hahahaha, true!
     
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    not every one you see on tv or plays tennis is a counter puncher lol. The only counter punchers on there is Borg and Nadal. yeah.
     
  26. gooberwho

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    this thread deserves a FAIL.
     
  27. Mansewerz

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    IMHO, Edberg was the best counter puncher.
     
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    Hewitt, Simon, Chang, Kucera
     
  29. federerdomination

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    Fed + Sam are not cps
     
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    ditto.....poor choices
     
  31. svijk

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    Legend among idiots.....have u seen Edberg play???
     
  32. Mansewerz

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    Idiot among new users, it's called sarcasm.
     
  33. BreakPoint

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    Nah....Max Mirnyi is a much better counter puncher. :wink:
     
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    Bruce Lee and Nadal.
     
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    Will someone please put an awsome fail pic on this thread.
     
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    I voted for Borg, but agree with majority about failed poll.
     
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    This made me laugh.



    I dont believe Simon will last long, people are starting to figure out his game, which I think is counter-puncher esque..


    I could totally be wrong but I dont see him BLOWING people off the courts with any weapon.
     
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    Nadal for me, even if he is being cornered or running to return a supposedly winner in a blink of an eye he would score a winner himself or makes his opponent in trouble and in defensive position....that's a counter puncher....
     
  40. Andres

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    Even though he's known for blazing-fast groundies, I think Nikolay is a good example of a good modern counterpuncher. Yes, he can generate power by his own, but he usually absorbs paces and redirects it. The faster you hit at Davy, the faster the ball comes back.
     
  41. soyizgood

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    No Wilander? What about Gilbert? Hell you could have made a case for Santoro. Hewitt definitely should have been here.

    The way the ATP is now, there's a growing legion of counter-punchers and grinders in the top 100. We might even see one take #1 in the not too far future.
     

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