Best F1 driver right now- Vettel or Alonso

Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by NadalAgassi, Sep 25, 2012.

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Best F1 Driver right now

  1. Alonso

    76.5%
  2. Vettel

    23.5%
  1. tistrapukcipeht

    tistrapukcipeht Professional

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    Your facts are always to your liking.

    It doesn't matter if in the past 3 years Hamilton had or didn't have less points than Hamilton, every new season it starts from zero, last season is irrelevant to all counts, the fact is Hamilton is indeed the second fastest driver out there, sometimes the fastest, in one lap He is that great.

    You were making fun of Schumacher for being a 43 year old losing to Rosberg (in your figurative language I understood He is nothing) now you're making Rosberg a great driver and blablabla.

    Vettel is the fastest and maturing really fast, holding himself under pressure and winning the titles He should have, last year and year before. Now sorry to say, but Vettel has accomplished more than Alonzo has, and less time and He is only getting better. After this Championship I consider Vettel in the same class as Alonso, in accomplishments He has surpassed Alonso.
     
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  2. SempreSami

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  3. NadalAgassi

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    My poll was not about who is faster but who is "better". Read the thread title. Better as in all that it encompasses. Anyway the true definition of faster isnt just who has the fastest car. I actually defend Vettel's abilities more than most but his over the top ubers like tistrapukcipeht make me regret doing that.
     
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  4. PSNELKE

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    Damn, people totally overhype Vettel.
    Alonso showed his raw skills and talent earlier when drivers were overtaking with nothing else but their balls.
    Today they just press a freakin button to enable KERS and DRS.
    This sport has become a farce.

    Alonso wins it anytime. It's a miracle he even finished 2nd place this season with that crappy Ferrari.
    Watching Vettel creaming the field with a spoilt car, from the last place like two times this season, just shows Red Bull's superiority.

    Yeah Alonso is indeed an arrogant ******* and comrade ****, but this shouldn't blur peoples opinion about their talent and skills.
    Their personalty got nothing to do with their driving skills.
    I can't see how anyone who watched F1 for more than 10 years now could vote for Vettel instead of Alonso.
     
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  5. TERRASTAR18

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    point 1-rosberg is gonna beat hamilton when he couldn't beat him in gp2 as teammates in the same car? rosberg is quick but is yet to show it during his whole f1 career.
    point2- button is much better than hamilton that ross brawn(i known just some novice) picked past his prime schumacher over the defending champ......this after rigging pitstops like at the european gp so button could beat his 37 yr old teammate barrichelo after even with a 6 race win streak struggled to beat vettel in a inferior car and barely beat him by 9 points. brawn picked ham over anaging schumacher.....button held his positons in a dog of a car, ham raced for wins.....for all your talk button only was ahead 1 out of the three years they were together(him and ham). and that was the year vettel beat button by over 100 points it was safe to say ham and the other just gave up.....
    point3- from steward to alonso have said alonso is racing newey not vettel.......vettel drives a fast car that's it......someone of you forget its 80% car,20% driver......unless you really believe jenson,kimi, perez, grosjean and massa are better than schumacher....all of whom finished ahead of schu.
    point4- i love how ppl pull out race like it doesn't play both ways. yes ppl celebrate ham as the 1st black but you act like it doesn't spotlight the lack of diversity in f1. just take brasil for example all the greats from fittipaldi to senna learned go karting from black mechanics but how many black drivers have come from that country. they were good enough to teach but not to drive.
    point5-vettel is number 1 driver on his team to the point where they have given some of mw's equipment to vettel when seabass broke his.hence why mw had that outburst at the british gp a couple of years back. ham has always had somewhat equal support unlike the lopsided relationships you have with vettel and alonso.
     
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  6. tistrapukcipeht

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    If Alonso is that great why didn't He win??

    A great driver still relies on equipment, it is impossible for the greatest driver ever in his best season to win Champioships with the worse car.

    That is why the best ones are those that with the best (or close to the best) equipment almost never lose, the rest is their choice between money and cars.
     
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  7. TERRASTAR18

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    that's not a legitimate argument....in fact it contradicts itself. best equipment means the less the driver has to push the car. if that's the case then you could put a novice in the car and win.....so that defeats yourargument about skill.
     
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