Best Finishing Knots

Discussion in 'Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines' started by hyperion99, Jan 27, 2013.

  1. hyperion99

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    Let me know your thoughts.
    I use the parnell but I'm trying to figure if there's a better finishing knot.

    Thanks in advance.
     
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  2. Lakers4Life

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    Irvin will probably push, the VS knot, which is just a Parnell knot (tied bad), which happens sometimes, but it still holds. 95% of the time I use the Parnell knot, and when the main is tight to the cross tie off, I use the Wilson/Pro knot.
     
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  3. hyperion99

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    What advantage does the Wilson/Pro knot have?
     
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  4. jim e

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    That is a smaller size knot. Its good in tight places like when a knot is tied to a cross string and the end main is right next to it giving very little space for knot. Many use the pro knot for all finishing. I like the parnell for finishing and pro for the tight spaces, as that is what I am use to, and works for me.
     
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  5. Lakers4Life

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    It's not as bulky and push the main out like a Parnell or Double Half-Hitch.

    Both the Parnell and Wilson/Pro Knots end neatly against the frame. Most other knots stick out.
     
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  6. hyperion99

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    So in that point there is not much of a difference in Parnell/Wilson Pro knot?
     
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  7. Lakers4Life

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    Not exactly. They are both neat knots (IMHO), but the Parnell knot is slightly bulkier than the Wilson/Pro knot.

    FYI: The Wilson knot and the Pro knot are the same knot, but sometimes referred as either. That's why I put the "/" inbetween the two names.

    If you ever string a Babolat APD, you will knot why we recommend using the Wilson/Pro knot when you tie off the bottom cross.
     
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  8. Faithfulfather

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    Wilson/Parnell knot. Nothing else needed.
     
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    I want to see that hook finishing tool that guy posted a while back again. I thought that was a really neat idea since it allowed there to be almost 0 tie off loss if you got the clamp close enough. Still agreed above, I only use the Pro knot. The Parnell works fine and is a little more secure I think.
     
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  10. Irvin

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    Wilson, Parnell and the Vs Starting knot are all three about the same. The largest knot is the Parnell. The easiest one to tie is the wilson. The VS Starting knot looks the best. When tied properly all three will hold well and the tail rest up against the frame.
     
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  11. hyperion99

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    How about the PC knot?
     
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  12. Irvin

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    Again very similar to the Wilson knot.
     
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    I use the Parnell primarily, and the Wilson/Pro in tight spots.
     
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  14. Maui19

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    I use the Wilson knot. I have tried the Parnell, but I find that I can't pull the string as tightly as I can with the Wilson. Perhaps I am doing something wrong, but I've been through the YouTube videos a bunch of times.
     
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    I just use the Wilson.
     
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    Pro knot for pretty much everything. Will use parnell from time to time for a starter on crosses.
     
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    I learned using the DHH and I still use it in tight spaces where I need tools(like E-Force) but since I started using the Wilson/Pro knot, I haven't looked back.

    I've had racquets come in with some beautiful fishing knots,but the tail sticks right back into the stringbed.
     
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  18. Irvin

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    VS Starting knot
     
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  19. GlenK

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    I use the Wilson Pro knot for all my knots.
     
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  20. hyperion99

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    I'm sorry I don't understand.:confused:
    I thought that the parnell was for finishing knots?
     
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  21. hyperion99

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    I'm not folowing:confused:.
    What do you mean by VS starting knot Irvin?
     
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  22. Irvin

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    You're right the only starting knot that should be used for tying off is the VS starting knot. Many people use a starting clamp so they end up with four tie off knots. Stringing 1 piece should eliminate starting knots.
     
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  23. hyperion99

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    Thanks Irvin:)
     
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  24. jim e

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    The Parnell is actually a finishing knot.
    Although it may hold as a starting knot, since it is a relatively small size knot it can pull into the grommet and cause more distortion of the grommet.
    That is why a bulkier knot is typically used as a starting knot.

    For 2 piece jobs,Instead of a starting knot I use a starting clamp to start my crosses and then use a finishing knot, so all knots are the same,and you would not be tying off on a main string and pulling tension against it, and when using thin gut or other 'fragile' multifilament strings, and especially at higher tensions, it is not uncommon to snap that first cross string right at the knot or at the two sharp turns the string makes, With using a starting clamp, you do not pull tension against these turns.
     
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    Delete post......
     
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  26. fortun8son

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    I still use a Figure 8 starting knot, but have been using the starting clamp more. Especially with the electronic machine, as I cannot do an ultra slow first pull except on a manual.
    Oh, yeah. The fishing knot is a starting knot, rarely seen as a finishing knot.
     
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  27. TennisCJC

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    I have started using the pro knot which is similar to Parnell except the 2nd loop does not go under the anchor string. Instead it just goes back thru the loop of 1st knot. I like it because it is smaller and you don't have to go back under the stringbed a 2nd time. It also seems to pull the string tight up against the frame. If you have a big stretched out grommet at the tie location, a Parnell might be better as it is a wee bit thicker.

    But, I exclusively used the Parnell for 6 years as finishing and starting knot without any problems.
     
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  28. mongting

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    I use wilson pro knot. It is easy and does the job. I use bulky knot for starting.
     
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  29. darklore009

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    favor the wilson knot. simple to do imo.
     
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