Best Forehand Ever?

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  1. NY12345v

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    Who had the best forehand ever? Was it Alberto Berasetegui?
     
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  2. Jonnyf

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    from modern time (my age)
    Roddick and Nadal's are huge
     
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  3. Tennis Psycho

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    Perfect. That was exactly what I was going to say.
     
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    Ivan Lendl.
     
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  5. Jonnyf

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    oooohhh well sorry
     
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    On a slow hard court does it favor a player with a certain type of forehand grip (Eastern vs Western) or is it pretty much equal footing?
     
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  7. NY12345v

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    Why does John Mcenroe always like to mention Alberto Berasetegui's name on TV? Is it because of his extremeeeee western grip?
     
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  8. Jonnyf

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    Fast courts the more western the more topspin which will help some players
     
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  9. slice bh compliment

    slice bh compliment G.O.A.T.

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    Some other candidates for you:

    Rod Laver,Guillermo Vilas,Bjorn Borg,Mats Wilander,Ivan Lendl,Jimmy Arias,Andre Agassi,Jim Courier,Yevgeny Kafelnikov,Carlos Moya,Marcelo Rios,Pete Sampras,Roger Federer.

    Categories within the category--my opinion...

    Pace: Roddick.
    Spin: Nadal.
    Magic on the run: Pete.
    Inside-out: Courier/Berasategui.
    Most fearsome: Ivan Lendl.
    Ridiculous passing shots: Borg/Wilander.
    Rock steady: Vilas/Kafelnikov.
    All-around weapon offensively AND defensively: Agassi/Moya.
    Best disguise/slickest/smoothest: Federer/Rios.
    Nominee for best underhanded serve, which technically is a forehand: Chang.

    And the award for best overall forehand goes to: Ivan Lendl...wait, this just in, the winner is Andre Agassi, who had a last minute surge in points for being called, "not much more than a haircut and a forehand" by none other than Ivan Lendl. A controversial call by the Armenian judge deeming that remark admissable. Lendl, however does not go home empty-handed -- he gets the nod for outstanding not-so backhanded compliment by a sarcastic SOB. Congratulations, gentlemen.
     
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  10. exhaleexplode

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    On a good day I swear it's mine. Really!
     
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  11. gifted_shotmaker

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    Borg, Lendl, Graf, Courier
     
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  12. ambro

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    No, fast courts like grass are better suited towards Eastern/Semi-Western. Slow courts like clay are better for Western grips like Nadal.
     
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  13. gugafanatic

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    JCF had the best forehand on the tour prior to injury and changing racket to Head.
     
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  14. NY12345v

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    I added 8 grams of lead tape to my Flexpoint Radical Tour and it is sweet! (Luxilon Big Banger Original).
     
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  15. Jonnyf

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    ok sorry i just thought you know lots of Topspin on fast court= High bounce
     
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  16. safin_protege

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    The best 'classic' strokes would have to be Smith and Sampras. However, the modern game calls for different strokes, and I think that Federer has the best 'modern' stroke.
     
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  17. slice bh compliment

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    Good call guys: Guga, Ferrero, Bruguera for the passes and the top.
     
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  18. gifted_shotmaker

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    In the men's game more recently, it would have to be Ferrero, Federer, Nadal, Agassi, and Moya.
     
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  19. Return_Ace

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    *gasp* shotmaker no safin??? no that is a first.............:)

    I have to say:

    Roddick
    Agassi
    Nadal
    Federer
     
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  20. Jonnyf

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    safin has a BH not an FH
     
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  21. urban

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    Some of the best. 20s: Johnston (old western grip), Cochet, 30s: Perry, Vines,40s: Kramer, 50s: Hoad, Segura, 60s: Laver, Santana, Newcombe, 70s: Borg (new western), Nastase, 80s: Lendl, Becker, Krickstein, 90s (Bollettieri-style): Courier, Agassi, Sampras, Bruguera, since 2000: Federer, Roddick, Ferrero.
     
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  22. Jonnyf

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    Brilliantly said urban
     
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  23. gifted_shotmaker

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    hahaha, yeah, Safin does the most damage with the 2hander.
     
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  24. Andres

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    My choices are Fernando Gonzalez, Tomy Haas and Juan Carlos Ferrero ;)
     
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    Lendl and Graf
     
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  26. Nosoupforyou

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    I love Moya's forehand, so beautiful technically imo. I don't think Roddick's is that great, he pounds the **** out of the ball with it but his placement doesn't seem to be that great with it, or it could just be because he stands so far behind the baseline that his power is often negated.
     
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    I'm not sure if Federer's forehand is even the best among modern players.
    He seems to need to plant his right foot securely for his forehand.

    If he is strteched wide and has to hit it on the run, his forehand
    replies are surprisingly weeak which Safin and Nadal exploited
    successfully and repeatedly.

    He is also tad slow coming in when hitting forehand approach
    shot(on the run) which makes him err on his volley.
    It mean to be a finisher. Not mean to be an approach
    shot to induce floaters for volleying, IMHO.
     
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  28. FedererUberAlles

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    He can really pound the ball though, but not as hard as a few others.
     
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    Haas? He's certainly way up there in the backhand department, but not top with his forehands.

    Federer's forehand has great results, but not as great on the run (as fastdunn stated). It also tends to crack under pressure, as far as I've seen, and begins to create some mishits.

    I'm not going to say Nadal, because while it is certainly hard to return, there isn't much variation, he pretty much just loads it with topspin every time. I can't speak against the results though, although I'd like him to attack more.

    Ferrero is definitely up there. Federer would probably be top if it didn't seem to crack so much.

    Personally, Agassi's is great. Compact stroke, but he's able to get huge pace off it and take it early. Not to mention he can work the angles pretty well, too.
     
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  30. ShooterMcMarco

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    federer, sampras, courier, jcf, puerta, gonzalez to name a few

    edit: agassi, his is always cleanly hit and its relentless.
     
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  31. uNIVERSE mAN

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    Thanks for your expert technical opinion.
     
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  32. NY12345v

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    The answer is...

    Drumroll please............

    The answer is Murphy Jensen and Tracy Austin.
     
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  33. slice bh compliment

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    Hahahah...Well done, NY12345v!


    Briiliant! A thread ender!
    But don't you think this answer also belongs at the bottom of the 'favorite all time players' thread?
     
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  34. RiosTheGenius

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    Moya's inside out is the best and most beautiful thing in tennis..... ok, I exagerated. but it's a great thing to see. the real best thing in tennis are Gaudio's blue socks.
     
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    moya, puerta, nadal, federer, and GONZO!
     
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    I find it very interesting that a poster named "verdasco67" does not recognize that Fernando Verdasco has the biggest forehand on tour today!!!!! It is hands down the biggest forehand in tennis.
     
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  37. Pushmaster

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    Modern era;

    Moya, Federer (most versatile)
    Gonzalez, Verdasco, Blake (most powerful)
    Nadal, Roddick (most topspin)
     
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    I find it odd that a poster named "PUSHmaster" forgot to mention the devastating forehands of Harold Solomon and Eddie Dibbs!
     
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  39. Rafa Nadal

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    Whats with Gonzalez, Puerta?
     
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    I would have to go with, Gonzo and Phillipousos for power, Nadal for action on the Ball, Federer for the best short ball put away I have ever seen, Aggasi for style and Pete Sampras for his running forehand.
     
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    oops forgot to put his name :p
     
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  42. doriancito

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    gonzales is the best ! any one agree?
     
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  43. Pushmaster

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    For pure power (Fernando), maybe? But Federer has the best all-around forehand IMO.
     
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  44. safin_protege

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    I think it is. It may not be as powerful as bashers like Roddick, but the placement and selection are amazing, as is his ability to retrieve balls on his forehand side. I have yet to see Fed's forehand be 'preyed upon' as you have mentioned. I know of no pro that can hit a perfect forehand while stretched extremely wide.
     
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  45. devila

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    Federer has more agility and power than Roddick. Federer gets out of tight situations by bashing the ball and serving faster. Federer's not the brightest player of all time.
    We've seen in Australia, Miami, Monte Carlo and French Open that his forehand has to be at its best in order to win.
    Gonzalez bashes mindlessly.
     
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  46. RiosTheGenius

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    c'mon now people, did everyone forget already about Rios' angles?? :)
     
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  47. Jet Rink

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    Yep. Dead on.

    Jet
     
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  48. VictorS.

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    Lendl had a devastating forehand which had both power and accuracy.

    I like Federer's forehand though. It's just such a athletic and graceful shot.
     
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    Best I've seen was Lendl's. For a brief time, Jimmy Arias had a fantastic forehand that was probably as good, but the rest of his game wasn't at the same level.
     
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