Best multi for hybrid?

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  1. Jqlevy

    Jqlevy New User

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    Which of these is best to hybrid with a poly?
    Technifibre x-1
    Babolat xcel
    Technifibre nrg2
    Wilson nxt

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  2. mikeler

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    For poly mains, I'd use Xcel since it is softest and will soften up the string bed some. I'd go with X1 as a main string with a poly cross because I know I'd break X1 before the tension loss issues kicked in.
     
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  3. netguy

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    What are you looking to get from a hybrid setup?
    What poly are you thinking of using?
     
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  4. Ramon

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    Those are all too expensive. If you have them laying around, use them, but otherwise, crosses are not as important as mains. When I used poly hybrids, my favorite cross was N.Vy.
     
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  5. JackB1

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    Expensive multi in the crosses is just throwing money away. Just use Nvy.
     
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  6. TennisCJC

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    I vote NRG2 as it is crisp, holds tension, and doesn't notch as fast as most multi's I've tried.
     
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  7. Muppet

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    I'm using Dunlop Hexy Fiber, which is a very soft, shaped, and low powered multi. I figured the shape would give less surface contact with the mains. I increased them to +5 lb. above the Cyber Flash mains and I've been getting alot of spin and pop. But playing without a vibe damp has begun to burn my wrist, so I added one of those and I'm taking a couple of weeks off.
     
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  8. WileyCoyote

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    Multi Mains?

    If the OP wanted info about what multi to use for mains with poly crosses, what would you previous posters have told him?

    Thanks. Seriously I really want to know the merits of multi mains/poly crosses hybrids.

    Harry
     
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  9. mikeler

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    Buy a stringing machine.
     
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  10. WileyCoyote

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    Uhhhh...

    Mikeler replied: "Buy a stringing machine. "

    I have a stringing machine. Does your answer mean I'm supposed to experiment? Or the OP should buy one and experiment? Or no one knows? Or...?

    I thought I asked a legitimate question. Please advise where I jumped the tracks.

    Harry
     
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  11. Muppet

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    I think Mikeler was referring to the fragility of a multi/poly setup. You will need to re-string frequently.
     
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  12. mikeler

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    Yes, I should have been more clear. Also, since mains provide most of the feel I'd just stick with multis I like in a full bed to use the "comfort hybrid".
     
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  13. Rob1

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    The first question is what are you trying to get in the poly.
    If you want spin or control, poly in the mains.
    If you want more power with some control the poly in crosses will do.
    As far as multis are concern, Biaphase X-1 is a good choice.
     
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  14. Lambsscroll

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    The best multi is one that slides well against the poly. When this occurs you get spin and control. So the question is which multi/poly hybrid has the lowest coefficient of friction? I don't know the answer but it might be a cheaper multi than you mentioned.
     
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  15. mikeler

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    Once almost any multi gets a few hours of use, it will be get beat up enough that sliding of the strings will stop. So unless you have the dough to restring after every match, I would not consider this to be the most important factor when picking a multi for a hybrid.
     
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  16. Ramon

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    I've tried it. The reason multi main poly crosses is seldom used is because it breaks too quickly. The poly crosses saw through the mains. Most 4.0 and above players will be lucky to get 5 hours out of it. Other than that it plays fine, like a softer version of poly/multi with a little less spin.
     
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  17. Anton

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    My nrg2 mains with Hyperion cross give crazy easy main movement (snaps back fully).

    One downside for me however is that the launch angle gets high along with spin increase, so I only use this setup in dense stringbeds.

    For open rackets I use nrg2 with stiffer strings like SPPP
     
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  18. Lambsscroll

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    So it looks like nrg2 is the best.
     
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  19. Anton

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    I haven't tried X1 though and Mikeler has been testing more different strings then I've popped in in my lifetime.
     
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  20. Lambsscroll

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    He test full beds. The OP needs advice for a hybrid so what you said regarding nrg2 is relevant.
     
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  21. NLBwell

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    AlphaGut2000. It works great in a hybrid - better than the more expensive strings. It does a good job of letting the poly do its job; it is very comfortable; it is cheap. The only downside is that it isn't very durable but by the time it breaks the poly has been dead for a long time - so it really isn't a downside.
     
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  22. mikeler

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    NRG2 has terrible spin potential in the 16g form.
     
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  23. lonlon

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    does xcel 16 and xcel 15L/135 have much difference?
     
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  24. Anton

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    Have you tried it with poly cross?
     
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    So I looked up TW spin stats to compare X1 to NRG2

    X1 is shown to have half the spin potential of NRG2.

    Stiffness and resilience are about equal and both get about equal ball friction coef. However X1 gets .3 friction to string, while NRG2 only .15, so X1 will have tougher time snapping back.

    Hyperion has crazy low to-string friction at only .096, so this explains why my nrg2/Hyperion combo makes for such easy string movement.
     
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  26. mikeler

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    What gauge? My experience on court is that X1 16 is probably a top 5 or top 10 multi for spin while NRG2 16 is a bottom 5.
     
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  27. Anton

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    Did you actually try this string as a main in a hybrid setup?

    I'll try X1 and compare it directly to NRG2
     
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  28. mikeler

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    No I tried both full bed. So if you use the same poly cross, I'd expect similar results as to what I experienced. Try it out, I'll be curious to hear of your findings.
     
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  29. Lambsscroll

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    Anton, is this the poly you use with nrg2 16g?

    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Signum_Pro_Hyperion_17_124_String/descpageACFORTEN-SIGHYP170.html

    I dont think this hybrid could replace my Wilson gut/ALUr setup but your multi/poly hybrid with its low coefficient of friction might be a good alternative for some who rather not use natural gut.
     
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  30. JackB1

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    thunder blast is a great multi for a cross. Also Prince Attack.
     
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  31. Anton

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    Yep.

    I like Alu, nothing better when strung fresh, but it it looses tension and playability very fast, whereas Hyperion seemingly lasts forever and is very tough to pop.

    NRG2 is also quite durable as a main in my experience.
     
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