Best Natural Gut String?

Discussion in 'Strings' started by ishiun, Mar 15, 2013.

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Which natural string do you like best?

  1. Babolat Tonic+ Natural Gut (comment what gauge)

    5 vote(s)
    8.6%
  2. Babolat VS Natural Team (comment what gauge)

    13 vote(s)
    22.4%
  3. Babolat VS Natural ThermoGut (comment what gauge)

    6 vote(s)
    10.3%
  4. Wilson Natural Gut (comment what gauge)

    24 vote(s)
    41.4%
  5. Others (comment what string and gauge)

    10 vote(s)
    17.2%
  1. ishiun

    ishiun New User

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    Which is your favorite? And what string do you hybrid it with if you do.
     
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  2. GlenK

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    I use Wilson NG 17. Used VS until the new coating came out. Did not like the feel of it at all.
     
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  3. Lavs

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    It is better to stock up as far as Babolat produces ones for Wilson with old formula.. I am pretty sure it won't last long :(
     
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  4. finalfantasy7

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    performaxx whispertouch 17 - this had better control than others, (slightly stiffer) which i liked as imo- as im a flat hitter,
    it felt better than original babolat gut(not the new one - never tried that) - the original babolat had too much power for me- it seemed it played better if you had a topspin shots which i dont have.

    wilson was also very good - didnt have the spin as babolat but better than performaxx,

    Just i prefer stiffer gut and performaxx offered me this
     
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  5. tennisplayer1993

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    I once played with a Babolat Pure Drive Team Plus with Lux Alu Power 16 (mains) and Babolat VS team 16 (crosses). i loved it. added about 10-15 mph to my serve/groundstrokes. I loved the touch and bite I got from that combo. This is the only natural gut I have used.
     
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  6. ishiun

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    seems like wilson has the most votes
     
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  7. db10s

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    Wilson 17. Bab is too stiff now.
     
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  8. ishiun

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    i heard the old babolat was better than the current one. what changed?
     
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  9. TimothyO

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    Just switched from VS Touch (16g) to VS Tonic Longevity (15L or >1.35) for mains with 4G 1.25 crosses.

    Same or better spin but lots more control, probably due to thicker gauge.

    Have also tried VS Team and Wilson (both 16 and 17). Wilson feels softer than the BT7-based VS but the VS provides better control, especially at lower tensions.
     
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  10. TimothyO

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    The new VS has fewer layers and is treated with a new chemical to improve durability. It plays stiffer than the old VS and the current Wilson.

    Initially I disliked the feel of BT7 VS but then it grew on me. While not as soft as Wilson and old VS, the new VS does offer more control and spin imo.
     
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  11. Nostradamus

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    Agree, too heavy on the coating, hey. Why and Why they insist on coating their gut big time?? It is a lot better with very thin coating. maybe they are trying to make the gut last longer but they break, it is just something they have to except
     
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  12. Nostradamus

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    what about that Black gut ? is that any better ?
     
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  13. AlfaAce

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    Wilson nat gut 17G
     
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  14. darklore009

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    wilson nat gut 17. i tried the new coating and killed my arm. just hope wilson doesnt pick up what babolat is doing to their guts.
     
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  15. NLBwell

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    I like ToughGut. It has less power than something like the Wilson.
     
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  16. TimothyO

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    Black VS 16 seems to be the same as the natural. Only advantage is that you can really see your wear pattern well. It made me very happy to see how consistently I hit the sweet spot. My 8-10 center mains get very well worn while the edges remain nearly pristine.

    I remember when I started playing tennis and I read about the need to hit certain areas of the string bed. I thought to myself, "I can barely hit the ball, how the heck do I hit the middle of the string bed?!?,"
     
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  17. Nostradamus

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    Maybe you are just as talented as Federer who hits the sweet spot every single time. I heard he never misses the sweet spot as long as he has been a pro:)
     
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  18. acura9927

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    My shop ran out of Wilson Nat Gut so I settled for Bab Team 17 Nat Gut. Will be using it at 51pds in a 4d100. Is that low enough tension for better control?
     
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  19. TimothyO

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    NOPE!

    I do have a very well worn pattern in the center BUT I also have two frames with a cracked grommet at 12 from mishits. My son cracked one and I cracked the other on serve. :oops:
     
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  20. netguy

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    Wilson NG is the best premium one.
    Pacific classic is the best buy for the money.
     
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  21. ultradr

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    In terms of ball pocketing and dynamic resilience, it's the Wilson natural gut
    with Federer's picture, the Bobolat's original formula, not new BT7.
     
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  22. ishiun

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    so wilson gut plays like the old babolat one?
     
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  23. ishiun

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    before the new coating i mean
     
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  24. Rob1

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    VS Team is great
    With ALU Poer or MSV Co-Focus
     
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  25. JT_2eighty

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    If price is no concern, then Wilson gut is great.

    For the best price/performance, Pacific Classic 16 for open patterns, or 17g for dense patterns.
     
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  26. WileyCoyote

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    My 2 Cents

    Wilson NG 16 mains at 55 with MSV Co Focus 18 crosses at 52.
     
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  27. 10smonkey

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    right now i am sidelined ( just had rotator cuff surgery) but i used vs team 17 in the mains and pro line II 18 in the crosses on my babalot pdr + and love it durability was good and feel was excellent
     
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  28. ultradr

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    Yes. Some say it feels like 90% of pre-bt7 original
    Babolat VS. to me, it feels identical.
     
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  29. newyorkstadium

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    Pacific prime gut by some margin.
     
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  30. acura9927

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    Just picked up my Aerogel 100 with Bab Nat VS 17, its is stiff. Did not play with it yet just hit against the living room couch ( I won by the way). Feels stiffer than NXT, NXT Tour same tension of 52pds.

    Crap, not liking it so far hopefully on the court I can feel the stiffness give me extra feel and control.
     
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  31. JT_2eighty

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    Nice thing about gut is that it will break in, and it will feel softer once you start swinging through the ball on court. Gut gets more elastic at high tension.
     
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  32. ultradr

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    This worries me that it is only matter of time that the changes in VS will
    trickle down to Wilson.

    By the way, BT7 is not just a coating, I heard, they reduced number of sub-strands
    from 16 to 7. They now have thicker threads.
     
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  33. JT_2eighty

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    I haven't tried new BT7, it's too expensive for me, and I had stocked up on some Pacific Tough and Prime before they upped their rates.

    I would say Pacific Prime is the closest one to the old VS, aside from Wilson. That will be what people will need to go to if/when Wilson no longer uses the soft pre-BT7 formula.
     
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  34. acura9927

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    The current BT7 in 17g is thick, looks like a 16g to me. Feels like NRG2 mulit, not how a Nat Gut should be. I would avoid. I'm stuck with it, maybe I put some 5-10 pd weight on the stringbed for hours to loosen it up.
     
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  35. rudester

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    Prince natural gut to me plays more like the old VS, more power than wilson NG but i use in hybrid with poly crosses too help tame the power. Would dial up tension if used full bed.
     
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  36. parasailing

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    Old VS Team was the best they ever made followed by current Wilson Natural Gut and Prince Natural Gut. Since we can't get the original VS Team anymore, I get which ever one is cheaper between Wilson and Prince since they both feel pretty good.
     
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  37. acura9927

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    At 51 pds strung on my 4d 100 you would think the VS Team with BT7 with be half way not stiff. Well I think its worse than the 5 dollar Gamma Syn Gut the racquet came with. To ease the stiffness I put 19 pds of free weights, taking it on and off sometimes.
    Pure junk. I give these idiots at Babolat a chance and have a hole in my wallet.
    [​IMG]
     
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  38. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    I feel bad for the 100 :(
     
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  39. ultradr

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    It's not just plain stiffness, IMHO.

    original VS used to be crisp at low impact and surprisingly resilient at high impact.

    I used string VS(or Tonic) at very high tension(up to ~68 lb) on 18x20 string enjoying crisp
    control on touch shots but still could bring on beast-like power when I take
    large cut, exhibiting sweet ball pocketing characteristics.

    BT7 lost this dynamic nature, IMHO.
     
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  40. acura9927

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    I took the 71 dollar loss and cut the strings and will put in something else. Digusting how this bt7 tech ever was invented.
     
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  41. jim e

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    Wilson nat. gut is the old VS gut. A poster on these boards, Drakluie stated that when Wilson nat. gut 1st came out it had writting VS thermogut on it. This should answer any questions about wilsons gut.
     
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