Best Overall Backhand Ever

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  1. DolgoSantoro

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    Who do you think has the best one? Let me explain what I mean though. By this I mean the sum of all that they can do on their backhand side including a drive, slices, passing shots, returns and volleys. For example Djokovic and Agassi have two of the best backhand drives of all time however the don't have similarly good slices. They could still win on the strength of their returns and drives though. So in light of this where do you weigh in?

    I might go with Edberg
     
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  2. Fed Kennedy

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    Federer PROBABALEE no?
     
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    Tommy Haas, bias included.
     
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    Andy Murray. Excellent passing shots, drive, slice, and return
     
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    When he was on, Marat Safin had the best backhand of all time IMO. He could hit winners from anywhere like Del Po did with his forehand during USO 2009.
     
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  6. TeflonTom

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    edberg for sure. u dont become alltime great with chicken-wing fh unless u have amazing bh.

    not the kind of bh u want 4 modern tennis tho
     
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    Guga? Djokovic? Safin? Dunno it's tough but it's certainly not Murray.
     
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  8. mellowyellow

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    Nadal of course, his bh volleys are all the proof needed
     
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    Ken Rosewall
     
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    OP might need to pick names and put up a poll. I'll be real curious to see what names get picked.
     
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    There are lot of players famous for their excellent backhands. I'll throw out a bunch of them, Rosewall, Laver, Kovacs, Tilden, Budge, Ashe, Edberg, Connors, Borg, Vilas, Wilander, Agassi, Nalbanian, Djokovic, Ashe.

    Over the years Rosewall, Laver and Budge were regarded as top backhand names. Of the top backhands, Laver and Ashe has the most variety of shots of any of the players.

    Since 1990 Edberg is up there with anyone.
     
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    Can't believe how underrated Federer's backhand is on this forum -- and all because of his matchup issues on that side against Nadal... on clay.

    Can anyone cite me one instance of a match from Federer's prime (2004-2006) where he got dominated in backhand to backhand exchanges against anyone NOT named Nadal? His verstaility on that side is nigh unmatched.
     
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    you'll not get a response ... because there isn't one that the "underraters" can provide.
     
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  14. dr. godmode

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    Djokovic for sure. It's tough to classify old guys who played with woodies because their backhands would get raped in todays game
     
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  15. TeflonTom

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    fed has a nice bh but never his main weapon. could produce nice shots on it but fh much more consistent. couldnt win tourneys on bh alone

    contrast with edberg - guy was totally dependent on bh when not at net. fh was useless. yet still got to fo final, won multiple clay titles incl hamburg, plus all his gs titles n other achievements.

    topspin, slice, flat, approach, cc, dtl, i/o - the dude could do everythin with it. why? cos he had to do everythin with it. connors, lendl, sampras, becker, agassi, courier, mac, wilander n anyone else decent on tour all eat his fh for breakfast. is rare someone with fh as crap as edberg even win a gs title, let alone 6 n become one of alltiime greats. why? big part coz of amazing bh.

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  16. norbac

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    Probably me.
     
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  17. jean pierre

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    Vilas. The most beautiful backhand.
     
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    Vilas- Best One handed backhand ever-topspin, slice & volley all outstanding.
    Connors- Best Two handed backhand ever-off the ground he could do anything with his backhand and he was so solid on his backhand volley.
     
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    in the past consensus was Budge and Rosewall, but that's different racquets, no clue how to judge that against today's power hitters like Djokovic or Safin not too long ago for example
     
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    By standards in op, bhs like djok r rubbish cause they hit crappy approaches. modern bhs v. v. good at a few things but not real good at some stuff.

    if u are lookin at 'overall' in terms of doin everything, u really gotta pick someone with a 1hbh. 2hbhs can be great but they aint real versatile
     
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    Lots of versatile two handers I believe. I think Connors, Borg, Murray, Wilander, Mecir are just a few. I like Djokovic's also.

    Chris Evert among the women had a really versatile backhand.
     
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    sure, but compared to a good 1h, u can't get nearly the same amt of topspin, slice, angle, etc.

    1hbh by definition more versatile, coz u got greater variety of/more extreme swing paths etc.
     
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    Lets put it that way: nobody has won more straight points out of his backhand than Rocket
     
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    bless his soul, but Rocket used to play a butler or a teacher in his 4th round Wimbledon match.
     
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    AHAHAHAHHA... oh wait you're serious...
     
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  28. Praetorian

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    Have to go with Edberg. It was a shot he could do literally anything with.
     
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    Budge, Connors, Edberg, Murray, Agassi
     
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    Stan Rottheimer, an amateur German player in the early 1900s. Hear he had the sweetest backhand ever.
     
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    Donald Young.
     
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    Nalbandian, Djokovic, and Andy Murray
     
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    ...and a Newcombe,Emerson ,Ashe or Roche in the final(s) days¡¡¡¡
     
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    Possibly, the third best BH approach after Laver´s and Rosewall´s.Difference: Laver and Rosewall dominated from the backcourt a little more...
     
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    Connors had a great backhand approach too which set him up for a lot of easily volleys but yes, Edberg did have a fabulous backhand approach shot.
     
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  36. kiki

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    Rosewall had that lethal sliced shot that gave him a lot of time to set up his great volleys.Laver was more uncompromising, but he was so fast that you never knew if he first approached or volleyed....
     
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    Yes he did and it was generally extremely deep approaches too.
     
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    I know it ain't Murray.
     
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    Lukas Rosol.....or is it Lukaszsz Kubot?
     
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    Hmm... Ever blah... By Era is a better choice
    For me it is Borg, Connors, Agassi, Fed, Gasquet (thing of beauty), Haas, Almagro (growing on me) and for the ladies Justine Henin (beautiful to watch)

    Notable mention is the Joker! He is growing on me since his maturation. Djokovic lookin like Agassi 2.0 on return game.
     
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    ^5 on that comment. Comments like all-time and ever and you see Murray :confused:
     
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  43. TMF

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    Did you and Limpin ever found any source that say Rosewall hitting 80+ mph slice backhands?
     
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    Yes.The best source.Eyes.
     
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  45. kiki

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    Hingis has one of the greatest backhands, too.
     
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    ^that thing is a thing of mastery and beauty, i tell ya what
     
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  47. pc1

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    To be honest how many times could you find groundies measured for speed in those days. The answer is almost never. There was a tournament in which forehand speeds were measure and Gonzalez had the highest speed with the old wood racquets at 112.88 miles per hour with Kramer at 107 mph.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forehand

    The sad thing about all of this is that this 80 miles per hour backhand was mentioned by one poster (forgot who) and it's been repeated constantly often to mock the Rosewall backhand. That's a shame since it was one of the great shots in tennis history. Eighty miles an hour to be frank is really not that fast. I believe that Rosewall has at times hit service returns faster than 80 mph. Remember the man hit a very flat backhand with slight underspin. If you asked me if I have seen Rosewall hit a backhand faster than 80 mph I would say yes. Do I think he did it on a very regular basis? Probably not.

    The thing is that Rosewall's backhand was incredibly consistent. It was a heavy shot that was hit very low over the net which cut down on the time for the opponent to return it. He could lob, chip, hit great passing shots.

    Here's a video from Krosero of Rosewall against Roche. Now I know it's a highlight video but you can see the exquisite form of Rosewall's backhand and what he could do with it. Why should a guy have to hit a backhand 80 mph if you can have a backhand like that? It's a great shot even if he doesn't hit it 80 mph. So before anyone writes he didn't hit it 80 mph just ask yourself wouldn't you like to have a backhand like Rosewall's? I wish I had a backhand like that but there is only one Rosewall backhand. That's why many think Rosewall's backhand was the greatest in the history of tennis.

    Notice how versatile his backhand is and how accurate it is. Incidentally check out how great Rosewall's (and Roche's) volley is.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJubuKDN7Fk
     
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    People are serious idiots, Murray does have one of the best backhands ever, people are not saying he is one of the best players ever just his backhand
     
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  49. Nadalfan89

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    Richard Gasquet has the best backhand of all time
     
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    1. limpin and Datacipher insisted that Rosewall hit 80mph slice BHs, of late backed by the country clown kiki

    2. no one is contesting that Rosewall had an all-time great BH; only the absurdity of being able to hit slice BHs with that velocity.
     
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