Best player never to win a singles title?

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  1. SaintClaires

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    Andreas Seppi


    What do you think?
     
  2. JuliusWinto

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    Gulbis___________
     
  3. oneguy21

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    I guess Seppi.
     
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    Julien Benneteau........probably better than Seppi......



    Edit: I just realize that I started a pretty pointless thread. Sorry.
     
  5. Commando Tennis Shorts

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    The subject is an oxymoron of itself
     
  6. orangettecoleman

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    I think it's a good thread. Better than the "top 10 of all time", "best to never win a major", or Fedal threads. Anyway, my vote goes to Gulbis b/c he has made a couple of fairly deep runs at slams, but I like Isner, Becker, Mahut also.
     
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    Does it include challengers or futures?
     
  9. Ocean Drive

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    atp titles im taking it, why would he bang on about challengers or futures?
     
  10. BorisBeckerFan

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    If you are including women and only singles titles I'll go with Kournikova.
     
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    No, just ATP or WTA titles........
     
  12. illkhiboy

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    I think this is a good thread. Fairly imaginative especially compared to the nonsense that the likes of Nadal-Freak take great pleasure in posting.

    I think it's a really tough question to answer.

    I think a more interesting discussion might be "Who is the best player to have not won a Masters (or Slam) title?"

    That would include discussion about a lot of fascinating players like Ljubicic, Stepanek, Simon who've come very close but haven't been able to snag the big one.
     
  13. Ocean Drive

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    How many times has that been done, "not to win masters" "not to win slam"...

    go back to talking about federer and nadal or whatever...
     
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    has baghdatis won one? If not, he is for sure.....maybe del potro:shock:
     
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    o wait i thought you meant a slam nvm
     
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    Currently (based on ranking) the best one is Troicki at number 36 with no titles....Seppi is second at number 40 but one could argue that since his best ranking has been #27 (july last year) he can be considered the best one....
    next its Bolelli at number 41 and then Gulbis at number 42.....but I´m guessing that any player that got to the top 20 without winning any titles would be the winner...has that ever happened???
     
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    Kournikova for sure.
     
  18. Ocean Drive

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    Henrik Holm was number 17 in the singles rankings without any singles title to his name. He never won an ATP title.

    Although 5 doubles tournaments.
     
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    I guess we have a winner then.....
     
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    Go back to talking about Fed/Nadal? Is that an order? Lol chill out.

    I meant having a discussion about players that havn't won Masters nor Slams since if you just consider players who haven't won Masters, you would be considering Thomas Johansson and Albert Costa as well. Anyway, you're probably right - that has also been discussed a bit.
     
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    chill out? lawl

    and johansson and costa have both won masters haha
     
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    What are you talking about?
     
  24. Ocean Drive

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    that guy thought this thread was on slams.
     
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    I suspected Costa won a clay Masters. But Tojo? When was that?

    Just checked. Tojo won the Canadian Masters in 1999.

    Are there many players who have won a Slam but not a Masters?

    Considering Masters only started in 1990, I doubt there are.

    I don't think Korda won a Masters though he won the prestigious Grand Slam Cup in '93.

    Gaudio did not win a Masters either.
     
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    I believe Viktor Troicki is currently the highest ranked player with no titles. I think Kournikova is probably the best choice amongst females. For men, although he eventually won titles, Cedric Pioline had to be up there in terms of most career accomplishments prior to winning a title. Finalist at US Open, 2 Wimbledon QF, Final at Monte Carlo, as high as #9 in the world, and overall a runner up 9 times prior to winning an ATP event.
     
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    Kafelnikov, he was in quite a few finals but didn't win a masters series.

    korda won stuttgart in 97
     
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    Wawrinka only has one title to his name, beating djokovic in 2006 in umag.

    might be kind of surprising to some.
     
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    Bump....

    benneteau? He has a shot at it this Sunday
     
  30. TheMusicLover

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    My #1 candidate yep. Nine finals, zero titles. :(
    Hopefully that will change tomorrow, but not counting on it... Nishi appears to be just a bit too much of a tall order.
     
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    Of the active players cited at the start of this thread, I note that most of them went on to win titles or improve on their tally (eg. Seppi, Tipsarevic and Wawrinka). Benneteau still stands as the only one mentioned back then who has yet to score.

    He is obviously the best currently active player to be without a title. It's really astonishing that a player of his ability never came out on the winning side in any of his 9 ATP finals. Tomorrow will be his 10th. Hopefully he can finally hand this unwanted record to someone else!
     
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    No, it isn't meant this way. It is meant which player out of those in the group who never won a title is the best.
     
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    Ditto, he will go down in history as the best player without a title for sure if he doesn't ever win one.
     
  34. TheMusicLover

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    Rooting for him in a couple of hours... get it done Julien!
     
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    Casey Dellaqua is worth a shout.
     
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    Poor benneteau :( 0-10 in atp finals
     
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    Julien should just play the Campbell's Newport tennis hall of fame tournament next year if he wants an atp title. I mean, Rajeev ram won it for goodness sakes. Heard the competition there is like a challenger event pretty much.
     
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    Oh no! Lost again! :(
     
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    Exactly or some weak tournaments like Bucharest or Winston Salem (Rosol won both of these).
     
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    Isner and Hewitt play there consistently. But that is a good week to focus. He should also try Stockholm.
     
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    Doomed to never win one I think
     
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    Yeah there are a few tournaments indeed like Stockholm, i think about Valencia or Vienna. Benneteau could win these.
     
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    If the guy REALLY wants to win a singles title that bad he should just play 250s only next season and stop playing slams and M1000s. If he does well in those, it wouldn't hurt his ranking at all. But players never seem to do this, probably because they're obligated to play those big events or because of the money or they just don't like missing slams.
     
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    yeah and Julien, since he won a grand slam in doubles this year (and in front of his home crowd!) I think he's fine, of course he wish he won one of these finals but like he said, winning a grand slam, even in doubles, compensates for all these lost finals.
     
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    I hope Lu can win one soon.
     
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    With the number of tournaments in China increasing, hope he can get one.
     
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    ha yah, also those
     
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    yes its really funny
     
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    so basically the best cr@ppiest player
     

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