Best player with worst BH

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  1. helloworld

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    It used to be a frightening weapon back in his younger days. Now, it is just a shot that keeps him in rallies. :neutral:
     
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    Frightening weapon? This gem is right up there with the other utterly absurd claims you have made in the past.
     
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    Like Rafa needs to win 34 slams to surpass pete??!!:twisted::):shock:
     
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    Nadal's backhand passing shot used to be the best in his younger days. He could pull off backhand winners from ridiculous positions on the court. It was definitely a frightening weapon.
     
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    Federer's backhand passing shots were outstanding as well, yet you call it weak. lol.


    Nadal's backhand was a "frightening weapon" in his younger days? GTFO. He couldn't hit anyone off the court with it. Blake used to ravage his backhand on a regular basis. Even Hewitt used to pick that shot apart in order to avoid Nadal's forehand.

    Blake was extra brutal with Nadal. Once he hit a powerful shot to Nadal's backhand, he used to move 5 feet inside the court and Nadal retreated 5 feet behind the baseline.
     
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    When was that? Moya and Murray only met twice (2006 Toronto and 2008 Cincinnati) and Murray won both times! On the other hand, Moya is 3-1 v Stepanek.
     
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    Fed's backhand = Sampras' backhand?

    HAHAHAHAHAHA. No.
     
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  8. President

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    Yeah Nadal's backhand is pretty average, especially considering his playing style (grinder, LONG baseline rallies). Certainly the weakest of the top 4's backhands. He has probably the best or 2nd best forehand of all time to make up for it though.
     
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    Worst or Ugliest? I've always though McEnroe had one of the more un-orthodox and strange/ugly back hands but he was fairly consistant and made for some very awkward angles and slices with that backhand.
     
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    it sounds like we are finding out you need to have a bad backhand to win a GS. J/k i know nole has a beast on that side as was agassi and many other gs winners.

    But dudes with good bhs like warinka, davy, and nalbandian dont go anywhere near a gs title. I know davy has a few 1000s and SFs but don't feel he ever came close.
     
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    ask murray if fed's bh was bad in the 2010 AO final.

    ask djoker if fed's bh was bad in the 2012 WB semi.

    People act like just because nadal's topspin neutralizes his bh that fed's bh is garbage.


    complete nonsense.

    ask james blake in the 2006 MC if fed's bh is 'weak'
     
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    this. his bh is atrocious.
     
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    You can easily make a similar list for the forehand, Berdych Soderling Tsonga just to name a few could easily fit.
     
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    No offence but you're talking about specific matches. As a whole, his BH is good but not great.

    It's better now than when he was in his peak though.
     
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    no offense, but you dont know what you are talking about.
     
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  16. NadalDramaQueen

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    But he is well aware that he has no clue, which makes it alright. :cool:
     
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    This is why I don't support the old man because of his Fedards.

    Deluded bunch they are.
     
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    ROFL, says the biggest ******** troll on the board.
     
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    Thank god this guy has been banned, probably the worst poster on the forum.
     
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    I thought Courier's backhand was more "ugly" than "bad." Not that it was supremely great, but I never thought it was that bad.
     
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    The old man commands you to give him his due. :)

    On the contrary, he is one of the best posters on the forum. I'm sad that he is banned. :(
     
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    I'm not. He was posting outrageous comments, so I reported him on grounds of racial abuse. :mad:

    I initially thought federer was the best player with the worst backhand, but I don't think he's the best player by any standard, so it's not an easy question. :p
     
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  23. gsharma

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    I sadly have to agree with you regarding the Fed's atrocious fans. However, I still love watching the guy play.
     
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  24. MichaelNadal

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    Federer has one of the best backhands of all time.
     
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    This is such an unclear question from OP.

    Are you talking about worst backhand ever? Worst backhand to win a major? Multiple majors?

    So many variables.

    Of the 10+ major winners, I'd say Fed's BH > Nadal's > Sampras'
     
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  26. gsharma

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    No he doesn't. He can do enough with his backhand so that it is not a liability and that he can utilize other aspects of his game to win. Fed won during his peak years on his serve, FH and movement.
     
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  27. NadalDramaQueen

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    He is mostly just messing around. You've actually been funny lately, and I see that I am no longer on your ignore list. :cool:
     
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  28. President

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    This is correct. Forehand I might have to say Nadal is ahead of Federer though, if only marginally.
     
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    Lmao, im so sick of hearing this crock. Yes his forehand is better than his backhand. His backhand is amazing though. It's about relativity. Just bc Nadal is the clay GOAT doesn't mean he sucks on other surfaces the way he gets slack for. Just because Federer has one of the best forehands in history doesn't mean his backhand is far behind. I don't know what's so hard for people to understand about this. One guy came along that was able to pin him in his backhand corner and all of a sudden his backhand sucks? His backhand slice alone has more variety than some players backhand has all together.
     
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  30. ivan_the_terrible

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    I do recall Lendl saying he won the juniors despite "having no backhand". As a pro, he definitely had a great backhand - loved the way he hit it, great racquet preparation (see avatar). I do think his greatest shot was dtl running forehand - truly the best in that era.
     
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    Both Federer and Sampras have generated hours of highlight reel backhands but I wouldn't pick them over backhands like Guga, Edberg, Saffin, Agassi, and many others. I think what you have in guys like Roger and Pete are insanely well coordinated atheletes that can pull of amazing backhands but as far as stroke after stroke rallies there many better backhands out there.
     
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  32. NadalDramaQueen

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    Thanks, MichaelNadal. If I had never seen Federer play, I would assume he had a 3.0 level backhand based off what I read on these forums.
     
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    Both Nadal and Fed rely so much on their movement to cover their backhands. I rate Fed's BH > Nadal's because of Fed's versatility (slice etc.)
     
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    No one measuring Fed's BH based on Nadal. My perspective on things stretches a little farther than Nadal.

    Again, what is your criteria for judging? Are you talking about a BH from a rally shot's perspective? Are you talking about BH as a weapon? Are you talking about a BH that fits in the overall game really well?

    As far as BHs are concerned, Agassi, Edberg, Lendl, Safin all had better shots. Not only better but more reliable rally shots.

    As a weapon, Gasquet and Wawrinka are great but their court positioning renders their BHs useless.

    Let me put it this pay, if Fed had the same BH he does now and had Agassi's movement, he would not have won as many majors. Fed can do enough with his BH so that it is not a liability. Occasional brilliance doesn't count.
     
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    Well said, and yes, Becker was amazing :)
     
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  36. Steve0904

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    Yeah don't pay any heed to these forums. Like Michael said, it's all relative. Federer's BH doesn't suck, it just "sucks" relative to his FH.
     
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    Who said Fed's BH sucks? For someone to win 17 majors, they can't have any obvious weakness. However, Fed does not have the best BH. That is BS.
     
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    2008, Moya was dominating but he was carrying an injury and Murray was able to break back a lot and win. You'd have to have seen the match to understand, the scoreline doesn't really tell the tale.
     
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    Graf. No contest.
     
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  40. Federer20042006

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    Federer and Sampras should never even be mentioned in the same sentence backhand-wise. It's not even close. Federer is a baseliner. Sampras won most of his slams with serve and volley. It's a lot easier to cover your backhand when you come in so much than when you're trying to take people apart from the back of the court.
     
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    No one here said Roger has the best BH :wink:
     
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