Best Racket for Tennis Elbow!?!?

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by TopspinAce, Dec 25, 2011.

  1. TopspinAce

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    I've been struggling with it and I'm buying a new racket this week,most likely Aeropro Drive GT,with solinco revoloution at 59,is this a bad choice?I used a Head Youtek and I think thats the cause,any opinions? Please Help,
    Maby Wilsons?
     
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  2. eleventeenth street

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    an aeropro with full poly strung in the high 50s is clearly not a great choice if you have tennis elbow.

    here is a list (not mine) of arm-friendly racquets that i found online a few days ago that might help you out. i don't know how accurate it is as i've only played with a handful of these sticks but it seems like a good starting point. others i'm sure will chime in.

    GOLD STANDARD

    Head LM Radical OS
    Head Microgel Radical OS
    Head YOUTEK Radical OS & Pro
    Volkl DNX 10 Mid
    ProKennex Redondo Mid & MP
    Avery A5 OS
    ProKennex Black Ace 93 & 98
    Donnay X Black 94
    Donnay X Blue 99
    Donnay XP Dual
    ProKennex Ki5
    ProKennex Heritage Type R
    Pacific X Force
    Pacific X Force Pro
    ProKennex Heritage Type C
    Prince EX03 Tour

    SILVER STANDARD

    Prince Original Graphite OS
    Wilson BLX Blade Team
    Head Microgel Radical MP
    Head YOUTEK Radical MP
    Prince OZone Tour MP
    Boris Becker 11
    Avery M3 Control
    ProKennex Kinetic Pro 5G Classic
    Babolat Pure Storm Ltd. GT
    Prince EX03 Rebel 95 & Rebel Team
    Dunlop Aerogel 4D 200
    Yonex RDiS200
    Yonex RD Ti80
    Donnay Platinum 99
    Donnay Silver 99
    Donnay Black 99
    Donnay XP Dual Lite

    BRONZE STANDARD

    Wilson nTour Two nCode
    ProKennex Ki 10 PSE
    Babolat Pure Storm Tour
    Babolat Pure Storm & Pure Storm Ltd.
    Yonex RQ1s1 Tour
    Head Microgel Prestige Mid & Pro
    Volkl PB 10 & 10 MP
    Prince EX03 Graphite 93 & 100
    Yonex RD is 100 MP
    Tecnifibre TFlash 315VO2 Max
    Volkl Quantum Scorcher
    Boris Becker Delta Core Legend
    Volkl C10 Pro
    Dunlop Aerogel 4D 100
    Prince EX03 Hybrid 100 & 104
    Wilson BLX Tour & Tour Pro
    Wilson BLX six.one Team
    Head YOUTEK Instinct
    Head YOUTEK Mojo
    Head YOUTEK Prestige Mid
    Donnay X Dual Bronze & Silver Lite
    Donnay X Blue & Red 94
    Donnay X 99 Black & Yellow
    Head YOUTEK IG Speed
    Dunlop Aerogel 4D 300 & 200
     
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  3. Ramon

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    Bad choice for tennis elbow. Which one do you want to get rid of, the stiff racquet or the poly strings? You can't have both. If you want the APDGT, get multifilament or gut strings (this is the easier choice). If you want poly strings, get a more flexible racquet like the EXO3, string it under 40 pounds, and cut it after 10 hours or 2 weeks, whichever comes first.
     
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  4. jwbarrientos

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    PK Ki must be around top5 or top3
     
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  5. roundiesee

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    Yes, my choice would be any of the PK ionic series, and perhaps the Volkl classic V1 judging by the opinions on these boards. I would also avoid using a polyester string, go with a soft multi filament instead, eg Mantis comfort and the like.
     
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  6. MCN

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    Avoid light racquets and go for something with a lower flex rating. Use low tension multifilament strings or gut if you can afford it. Adopt a smooth swing if you can and avoid 'snapping' your elbow or thrashing at the ball, particularly on your backhand side if you have a 1HBH. You may have to alter your game radically if your TE is bad.

    There are a number of racquets that are kind on the elbow. I have used the following and found them suitable. Prince EXO3, volkl pb10 mid and c10 pro, and PK Ki5. Avoid poly strings at high tensions at all costs, though.
     
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  7. anirut

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    A generic formula for elbow-safe sticks:

    1a. Flexible and heavy-enough-to-play-with-for-three-sets.

    1b. Rackets with elbow-safe techs like PK ionic/kinetic series or rackets with vibes-absorbing techs.

    2. And NO poly beyond mid tension.

    And a "near-perfect" formula for elbow safety:

    - Play with proper strokes, easy flowing, and let the racket do the work.
     
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  8. tenapasi

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    I think, if you have a stiff frame, string it with gut or multi. no poly or kevlar there. Unless you use soft poly on (very) low tension.

    I guess the basic are.
    - Stiff frame. Soft stringbed.
    - Flexible frame. (Almost) hard stringbed.

    I guess the key are finding the right balance between your frame stiffness and the hardness of the stringbed.

    And i agree with anirut. Go with the heaviest frame you can handle.
     
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  9. Ronaldo

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    PK Redondo mp the best IMHO of 12 oz racquets. Demo the new Wilson BLX Five if possible. Can play painfree.
     
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  10. sundaypunch

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    There are many threads here (and reviews in the TW store) that mention tennis elbow problems with APDGT users. It may be a great racquet but it's a terrible choice if you are prone to arm problems. Try something off the "gold standard" list above and your arm will be much happier.
     
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  11. Chyeaah

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    EX03 Tour 100 has alot of admirers.
     
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    Yes, the Redondo MP saved my elbow, and I can say I never volleyed better than when I used that frame.
     
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  13. stronzzi70

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    easy.........prince exo tour 100 18x20....or 16x18.......
     
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  14. kimbahpnam

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    pro kennex kinetic 5g or 7g
     
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  15. AdAraujo

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    I think that most Prince racquets should be on Gold Standard.

    I have played with loads of racquets and the most comfortable and tennis elbow friendly were the Prince. IMHO.
     
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  16. ultradr

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    Think string. And avoid frames too light or head heavy...
     
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  17. li0scc0

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    I am in complete agreement. As I have stated on these forums before, even stiff Prince racquets such as the EXO3 Black and the O3 Speedport Pro White are easy on my arm, even with poly. In comparison, any GT Babolat, even the Pure Storm Tour GT, kill my arm (however, the LTD is fine).
    And I am NOT anti-Babolat, I love the Aero Storm Tour Cortex (non-GT) and Pure Storms (non-GT).
    But Prince racquets with O3, Speedport, or EXO3 technology are simply arm-friendly, in general.
     
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  18. levy1

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    Yes!
    But with L-Tech strings. You will be in heaven.
     
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  19. Ramon

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    I play with the APDGT, and I just hit with a friend's EXO3 Black Team this morning. If you like the APDGT and want something arm-friendly, I think you should consider an EXO3. Even though his racquet was too light and the grip was too small for me, after 5 minutes I was swinging away as if it was my own racquet. The power level is about the same as the APDGT and the sweet spot seems to be about as big despite the fact that the frame is not as stiff. I could hit with more spin, and volleys were just as solid. It has a different feel, but I think I can get used to it. I'm seriously thinking that my next racquet might be the EXO3 100 Tour or EXO3 Black, which have specs similar to the APDGT.
     
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  20. tennisjon

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    I battled tendonitis problems for years before switching to the Pro Kennex Ki-5x. Been 99% pain free for the past 4 years now. When people have arm problems, I usually recommend something in the 60-65 flex rating, with at least a soft cross string, and a good dampener like the Gamma Shockbuster. A slightly bigger grip (achievable with an extra overgrip) can help too as well as not using a racquet that is too light.
     
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  21. wings56

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    The Effect of String Damping Gadgets

    Damping doo-dads on the strings damp only residual string bed vibration, and do not really protect the arm by damping frame vibration. Adding more mass to the head in the form of a damping gadget is a bad idea because it increases r in the formulas and therefore worsens performance, so the damper should be light. Pete Sampras' string damper is just a cable grommet, and Andre Agassi uses a rubber band.

    http://www.racquetresearch.com/
     
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  22. Ronaldo

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    Tried the O3 Red and Blue as demos, elbow was sore within 15 minutes using them. Only the EXO3 Graphite was a comfy hit. Never tried the EXO3 Tour. Like some polys may feel comfy but your elbow will know the truth.
     
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  23. TennisMD

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    I would concur about the princes, had some minor stiffness and needed to play so took out the old O3 speedport tour and felt nairy a bad vibration. May actually go back to these very decent power, control and arm friendly.
     
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  24. li0scc0

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    Were the Prince Red and Blue far LIGHTER than your usual racquet? If so, this would be the cause of the Tennis Elbow, most likely.
    All comments of mine regarding the arm-friendliness of the Prince racquets assume similar weight, swingweight, and balance vs. your normal racquet.
     
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  25. Ronaldo

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    Yes these were GI racquets. Soft stringbeds with big sweetspots in a stiff racquet.
     
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  26. loosegroove

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    Prince Exo3 Tour is certainly worth a look and is my current racket of choice. Also check out the Pro Kennex 5g.
     
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  27. jwbarrientos

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    I'm going to PoKennex KI, testing 295 and 315, I'll which one works better for me
     
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  28. IN210S

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    I have suffered from really bad TE to the point that I was unable to play for over one year. A few thoughts about how I went about it:
    1. Tried to use the heaviest racquet I could use without affecting form
    2. always looked for a flex under 65, most racquets have been about 60-62
    in flex
    3. gave up on polyester, only use gut and while I know it is expensive, I can definitely feel the difference. If you don't want to spend that much money I would go with NRG by technifibre.
    4. definitely worked on my form and tried to get rid of bad habits picked up over the years
    5. ICE, ICE, ICE every time after playing. Most of use forget the simplest form of therapy.
    6. Do your stretching of your arm muscles ie straighten your arm and pull your fingers back and then forward. Hard to explain but hopefully you get the idea.
    7. Use one of the arm bands for the elbow. I use a compression sleeve and sometimes i will put on one of the bands on for extra protection. Make sure you know where to place it, should be about 3 normal sized fingers away from your elbow. Also, don't tighten too much as this can cause another problem - Radial tunnel syndrome... you guessed it, I wore that damn strap on all the time to rest the elbow at the recommendation of the orthopedic surgeon but I wasn't told not to have it on too tight. Not sure if it was the compression or the amount of time that I had it on that caused the problem but luckily it went away and I have not had any other issues.
    8. NSAIDS - such as motrin help but should only be used for short periods of time. Some people advocate taking it before playing, this advice should be taken with a grain of salt as it can also disarm your bodies normal warning system that lets you know it time for an early handshake.
    9. Finally (sorry for the long note), i went to a chiropractor and he provided some forceful stretching that in combination with everything else really helped. it is painful but worth it.

    Hope this helps,
     
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  30. drkplayer122

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    I hit with the APDGT for a little bit and I regret hitting with the stick after like 5 minutes. It didnt work with my elbows so I switch back to my microgel rad mp and it felt like heaven with MCS in my stringbed.
     
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  31. UCSF2012

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    Getting rid of tennis elbow is about strings. Poly at the low 50's max. I do 50/51. Synthetic grip helps. Taking off the vib dampener helps. Natural gut helps (Unifibre is nice and cheap).
     
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  32. KenC

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    With all the common answers like get a Ki5 strung with gut and use good technique, I'll add that footwork is never mentioned but is of prime importance. Why? Because if you just can't seem to arrive at the ball in great position to use good technique you have to stab at the ball with odd, contorted angles that wreak havoc on joints, and not only the elbow.
     
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  33. mikeler

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    MCS is much softer than NRG. Much less durable though.
     
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