Best Racquet for spin?

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  1. catskillthunder

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    Long time lurker and once in a great blue moon poster. Im just curious to know what racquet these days is best for spin without considering the string?

    I havnt played in a few years, but was using the Head LM Radical. For my style of play, I do not think that is a very spin friendly stick. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
     
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  2. ckledzepplin

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    the aero series from babolat
     
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  3. catskillthunder

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    TY for the prompt reply. I will research them and more then likely demo.
     
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  4. ckledzepplin

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    I've also heard the O3 series from prince in good, spin relies on strings alot aswell, thinner strings, hexagonal string shapes, rough textures, and open string patterns all produce more spin.
     
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  5. hsv91

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    I use the Babolat Pure Drive +, you can create a really good spin! Fantastic!
     
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  6. m1stuhxsp4rk5

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    wilson k factor pro staff 88
     
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  7. GoDawgs2011

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    Second for Babolat's Aero series, particularly the ADPC strung with poly (although I liked the Aero Storm better overall).

    Also consider the Yonex RQiS 1 Tour XL 95.
     
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  8. fuzz nation

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    Actually, I think that your style of play may be rather important here. I didn't get a "plethora" of spin from the LM Radical myself, but I don't have terribly modern styled strokes - I sometimes use a SW grip on my forehand, but more regularly hit with an eastern FH and 1HBH. I've found the best spin producers for me to be rather flexible with some 12+ oz. heft.

    If you're tending toward more modern strokes, you may get better spin from stiffer frames with more moderate weight for better racquet head speed across the ball. A more open string pattern may help, but I haven't seen consistently more or less spin from frames with one pattern or the other.

    The stiffer Babolats seem to have good spin for some hitters, but I'm more inclined to get better rpm's from a frame like the Donnay Pro One mp, the Prince Ozone Tours, or the Yonex RQiS 1 Tour.
     
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  9. ambro

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    Prince Graphite Classic Mid gets crazy spin with only 14 mains, and Pure Drive + also gets crazy spin. Those two are my suggestions.
     
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  10. Gorecki

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    the spin doctor.... RD-7
     
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  11. StringingIrvine

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    14 mains, can't beat that =p. the rounder headsize also helps with the spin.
     
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  12. foolfighter8

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    is yonex rds 001 mid a good spin racket?
     
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  13. Skppr05

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    nope, more for people who want to plow through the court best suited to players who hit flat
     
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  14. tennismonster

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    APDC or APD + Poly = Spin :] haha...
     
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  15. Xtreme

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    blue gear on a 16x18 racket=spin
     
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  16. khw72004

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    I haven't played with it but I want to say the Snauwaert Hi-10 Super open string patter
     
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  17. lawlitssoo1n

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    i found hte k95 16x18 has good spin and also the prince original graphite 14x18 mid size
     
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  18. bounty

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    Spin doesn't come from the racquet only but also the string. With my PD, I found PH17 @ 55lbs gave me the most spin (feedback from my playing partners) & the biting feel (personal). My kick serve can kick 2.2m high. I have also tried ALU Power, SPPP, PHT, Toalson Thin blend. But the problem with PH, feel and stiffness (bad for arm). It is much better now @53lbs.
     
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  19. ODYSSEY Mk.4

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    add a western grip to that mix...:)
     
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  20. Atrowurst

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    coming from a 18x20 Ti.Fire PRO, I feel like my Head extreme Pro 09 with it's open string pattern and round head creates an exceptional ammount of spin, even more so than the PDC and PDR I've also tested.
     
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  21. Keifers

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    I second that. Mondo spin (by far the most spin of any Pro Staff I've ever hit with) and heavy plowthrough makes for a very imposing racquet. Be aware, though, of its high static weight and high swingweight.
     
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  22. !Tym

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    If the RD-7 was the spin doctor...the RD-3 was the spin GOD.

    The feel isn't nearly as communicative, dynamic, rewarding, or "special" as the RD-7; but the spin is just plain stupid, BEYOND spinny (almost too a fault, in fact, I would say most would say to a fault). This racket is like playing with a pure hunk of fiberglass. Homogenously flexible unlike the RD-7, but even LOWER flexibility if you can believe it.

    Put it this way, the POG Mid's spin is a JOKE compared to what the RD-3 can put on the ball. This said, I've found that for some reason, the RD-3 gives you the feeling that your strings have had dramatic tension loss in your strings faster than any other racket I've tried. Literally after the first time out with a poly, the next time out, they're dead a door nail and spraying and no longer giving you anywhere close to the same degree of spin, responsivenss, or control.
     
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  23. Gorecki

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    I'll take your word for it since i never had the previlege of handling a "Lucky Number", although i would love to!
     
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  24. catskillthunder

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    Im pretty much an extreme western grip player, using a 2HBH. The Head LM Radical felt really nice, but I just couldnt seem to get any bite on the ball.

    Honestly it really doesnt matter at this point as I am now just a hacker returning to the game from a 12 year layoff (18-30), then more recently a 4 year layoff (30-34). When I was 18 I was rated a strong 4.5 probably even a 5.0 (imo) and now Im just looking to get back into the game a little before its to late and I have regrets of never playing again.

    Im going to demo the Babolats as I have heard a lot of positive things about them.
     
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  25. ipitythefool

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    most spin I get is from a K. 6.1 team (18x20) with vs touch 16-1.30 / alu rough combo. It is very dense, but the dense bed grabs and spits the ball back. Especially if I can put a good whip action, my opponent hits the balls back over his shoulder, and they usully don't come back :)
     
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  26. Power Player

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    The Tfight 320 V02 Max is insane spin, but the power of the racquet really makes you have to use poly.

    The APDC is also quite nice, I get real good spin, but don't have to use poly..which is awesome. I would stick to what you are doing and demo the Bab APDC. That is a great racquet if you are getting back in the game, plus you can grow with it and play at a high level.
     
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  27. betovanbuuren

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    APDC or Aero Storm are the best for spin
     
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  28. TheDLink

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    the aero series is designed for spins
     
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  29. T0P5P1N@DD1CT

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    I'm guessing that most of the responders on here are are likely recommending racquets that they are using (not trying to start any arguments) which is cool because those sticks work for them.

    I find that regardless of what racquet I use I always tend to get enormous amounts of spin. That is mainly due to my strokes and the racquet speed that I generate (ehh, maybe the strings help a tiiiiny bit too).

    I've used many racquet brands from Babolat, Prince, Yonex, Wilson, Dunlop, and now Head. The main differences I noticed between the string patterns were really tied to ball trajectory but my buddies always comment about the amt of spin (prob cause I lead up the sticks to be quite heavy).

    I'd say just demo racquets based on the string pattern, weight (static), swingweight, beam width, and your playing style and see what works for you. Also look at string options as well. You'd be amazed that the stick that may stand out...
     
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  30. Dgpsx7

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    The best racket I have even gotten spin from was my Volkl Tour10 VEMP. This was the racket that created my playing style and it would produce beautiful slice that would either skid or die once it got over the net. I just got a K90 and I really hope it produces as much or more. I play with a lot more topspin now but it you want good slice I would go for any Volkl with a 16x19 or 16x18. I also use a Tour10 VEMid (18x20) but the spin is significantly lower because of the denser string pattern. My experience with Yonex rackets is that they produce spin but the slice floats instead of dives.
     
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  31. kashgotmoney

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    Prince Ozone Tour or Microgel Radical Pro or K six one 95
     
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  32. Gotta agree with this post. Some of the Yonex racquet's are ridiculously spinny.
     
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  33. marquette100

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    The PRINCE GRAPHITE II give the most amazing spin!
     
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  34. forevertennis

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    Prince O3 White, Microgel Radical Pro, and like many others said, the Babolat Aero racquets.
     
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  35. luthertn

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    why fine a racquet to produce spin..why dont you try to produce ur own spin...so people depend on their own racquet why not your skills ..*im just wondering *
     
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  36. DennisK

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    That's like saying why buy a more powerful racket? Or why buy a racket with more control?

    Not all people can hit big spin regardless of what racket they are using. For instance, with my MW200G's I can only hit with moderate spin. But with my RDX500MP's I can hit with silly amounts of spin in comparison.

    The racket matters at the end of the day. Otherwise we'd all be playing with paddles.
     
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  37. GoaLaSSo

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    apdc or a pd. both get pretty insane topspin. Then you should lead up the racquet head.
     
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  38. Winners or Errors

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    Spin. Too much power = not enough spin. I find that the racquets most conducive to spinning the ball also happen to be the racquets with smaller headsizes, a little heavier weight (~12oz). That way, I don't "have" to spin the ball to get it in the court, and I can spin the ball to do things like hit dipping passing shots or kick serves. YMMV.
     
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  39. tonyg11

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    tecnifibre 320... great balance and weight for spin
     
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  40. NLBwell

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    Of the current rackets I've demoed - Yonex RQis-1 Tour (and I would assume Tour XL). My MG Prestige Pro is very good - especially with Luxilon Spin in it - but not as spinny as the Yonex. POG is certainly good. I don't like the new Princes and never got much out of Babolats, so somebody else should talk about those. The Tecnifiber 335 (16x20) I tried was VERY head-light, so you could really whip it around to get a lot of spin, but not as much natural spin from the stringbed as some others.
     
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  41. VS_Power

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    easiest question to answer on this board, POG LB

    28 in long
    11.6 oz
    16/18
    13 pts HL
    100 sq in
     
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  42. Outlined

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    The same as a Head Prestige ?
     
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  43. jcollura4

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    get a 99s and some tour bite and string it spaghetti style
     
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  44. KenC

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    This question just never gets answered...

    If you are looking for more spin, your last stop is the racquet. Your first stop is you, because if you have technique that just can't produce enough spin, it really doesn't matter what racquet, or string, you use. Next is string. Note that you shouldn't hit the ball with your racquet, you should hit it with the strings. The ball really doesn't come in contact with the frame ever. But beware, the difference in spin between a multi and some geometrically shaped poly is nowhere near the difference that you, the player, can contribute. Strings might give you a couple percent higher spin, not more. If you are looking for 50% more spin, forget it. Last in the chain is the racquet. Maybe a rigid, light racquet can help generate more spin over a heavy racquet, but today just about all racquets are all in the same ballpark. Note that the replies so far recommend many different racquets. Perhaps any common tweener racquet today will do the job.

    So, as I see it:

    Player>>>>>>>>>strings>>racquet.

    Now, before you go out and buy an APDGT, think about the rest of tennis, not just spin. Will the APDGT be the best racquet for your particular style of play? Will it hurt your arm as it does for so many other players? A lot of other factors come into play besides spin.

    My suggestion is go get the racquet that suits you and your game, is comfortable, has the right balance for you, the right static weight and swingweight, and string pattern. Once you find your soulmate then start to experiment a bit with strings to find the perfect compliment for your soulmate. Then, if that combination doesn't deliver the spin you want, go get lessons.
     
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  45. WhereIsMacMac

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    Wilson Steam 99s
     
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  46. Topspinner271

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    what do you mean blue gear? i think rpm blast 17 at 56 and babolat drive z mid 2013 is insane..
     
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  47. Topspinner271

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    completely agree
    My racket is babolat drive z.mid 2013 i'm not really sure what swing weight it is. what even is swing weight.
     
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  48. DirtBaller4

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    I have a hitting partner who uses a ton of top on his ground strokes and I saw a noticeable difference when he went back to his apd. Could a racket increase spin by 5% or 10% you think?

    It did make his shots jump a little more, but I have gotten use to taking them on the rise. I almost think it would serve him better to take a little top off his shots for more pace.

    I like the MSV focus hex paired with forten aramid gear in the mains for more spin, but at the end of the day I think the stroke probably is 96% of the equation with the racket splitting the difference with the strings for the remaining 4%.
     
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  49. GoudX

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    The 105s would probably be spinier than the 99s. Also use a small grip size, then you lead up the bottom of the handle, to polarise it without increasing the swingweight. Then increase the string tension to the maximum you can handle so you can swing harder (to get more spin) without losing control. You can keep the spaghetti strung poly.

    Also, not sure you needed to resurrect a 3 year old post to tell them that they forgot a racquet that hadn't been made yet.
     
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  50. gplracer

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    I can understand this with the amount of mass the racket has. My son used to tell me not to play with it because the balls exploded off the court. Of course with better players the heft made it difficult.
     
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