Discussion in 'Racquets' started by Mdubb23, Aug 2, 2011.
Out of curiosity, what's the best serving racquet you've ever used, and why?
I liked the PDGT a lot when I was using it, TONS of spin and power, just a lack of control at times. I was demoing for a bit and I liked the K Blade 98 because I could whip it through the air very well, but it was just too light for me to use and I didn't feel like using lead. I think a lot of it just depends on the player, because I can serve way better now with the IG Speed 16x19 with a leather grip and a hybrid string job than I ever could with the PDGT because I have gotten more acquainted with the racket and my timing has become better with it.
I asked my coach what the difference in pro serves and mere mortal serves were and he said that a majority of it was just timing, and the rest was the fact that they have a little more strength. I mean how often do you see a pro that can't serve in the 115's at least and they all use different rackets. I think serves are more about the player than the racket.
Nonetheless, I shall throw out a wicked suggestion PDRGT+ with a full job of Barb Wire at about 45lbs would give an opponent a nasty kick serve I bet.
For me Head and Wilson racquets always served the most consistently in stock form. I could never groove my motion with Babolats. They strike me as needing a more compact motion on the serve. I'm curious to try a Prince.
PD swirly/team with some lead Serving is effortless and like my friend says: 'That racquet should be illegal'
The Radical MP feels great for me, even better than the PD. For me, it was easy to flatten out first serves, and hit spinny seconds...
I would say the APDGT would probably be my best serving racquet. I hit my serves with more spin and don't double fault nearly as much as with other racquets.
prestige pro. accurate spin, pace, and heaviness.
PDRGT+ and APDGT+ were fantastic. They served absolute bombs with heavy spin, and I could change up my locations with ease. I did think the APDGT+ had a little bit less pop, but the PDRGT+ absolutely killed the ball.
The KPS88 hits a heavy ball off the serve too, but that's the thing-it's heavy!
Gotta be PDGT. I hit winner second serves with that racquet.
Most important thing is weight, balance, and swing weight. Dunlop Max200G Head Prestige Pro 600/Classic 600. Hitting a heavy serve is what's important.
Prestige mid for pace/accuracy.
PD for spin/consistency.
I am really surprised not seeing any PS85's on the list so far....
LOL However it's not my favorite either, my moded iPrestige mp's are my favorite, because they are so HL I can really get some exquisite RHS in combination with the 370gs I get some serious weight behind the ball. My slice out wide on the deuce side is ridiculous.
Hit with a PT10(PC 600) the other day. Nothing comes close.
PSC6.1 is a great serving stick, but I think what takes the cake is the PDRGT. If my arm could take it, without a doubt I would be using it simply because of how much power it has on serve. It's ridiculous for just straight up power and ace potential.
Any racket can serve well, but some are just built for the serve!
The highest level of consistency and pace for me comes from the Prince NXG Graphite Tour Mid. However, my kicker is non-existent with the NXG, and I get unbelievable spin for both my slice and kicker with my Wilson NPS 95 and Hammer 6.4 (modified to just under 11oz and 1pt HL).
Youtek Extreme Pro > PDRGT as GSROAT (GServingRacketOAT.) End of thread.
Leathered and leaded APDGT - precision guided bombs over Baghdad.
I get a lot of free points with my dunlop 4D 500 tour. For me, it was a much better fit than the PDR.
A leathered and leaded up dunlop aerogel 200 16x19 for me. It was probably due to finding just the "right setup" for serves. That thing was "booming".
A leaded up Dunlop Maxply McEnroe was very close...as is my current Vantage, as was the Youtek Prestige Pro.
Also...I was hitting bombs with the i Prestige Mid. I used that one only for "giggles" though...and didn't try too many kick serves with it so I can't really say it was as good (overall...in match type serving) as the modded Aerogel...which I used more and tried all sorts of serves with.
kps 88 with gut and poly cross and pt600 with its superb feel.
Pure Drive Team Plus - no racket I've ever, ever felt roars like this beast on serving - what a classic gem - hands down serving bombs and ace's on demand (the serving racket Steve McQueen would have used!)
Steve McQueen wouldn't be caught dead using any "team" racquet.
For some reason I see him with a blacked out Rossignol.
+1 for the Head YT Prestige Pro.
PSC, TGK 238.5, PC600, PB10 mid and POG.
Aww i hate that you said that now =p i just used up half of my barb wire on my pdr cortex
PDGT and Dunlop 4D 300 T
I've demoed a million, and the most exploding ball I've ever hit with on serve was with the Donnay Platinum 99. Really, really impressive on that end of things. Liked the Plat 94 for the rest of play, but the 99 serves were on a different level.
ive used a lot of rackets and so far im liking the vo2 320, good pop spin and power.
For me at the moment it is the Wilson AK90. Easier to swing, quick through the air, very precise, and due to its thin beam makes kick serves a bit easier for me!
yonex rdx 500 mid..... good pace and lots of kick
gotta second that --Plat 99 is nice for serves--hit 2 aces in a match this morning--and I never hit aces! I hit serves that opponents cant get back-but at least they can touch them--the Plat 99 serves with a lot of heat-so I'm serving untouchables now.
My only beef with the racket is it still feels a little heavy and seems to vibrate on off center hits- but not serves.
Head Graphite Edge TXE. It brings superb accuracy for me.
Funnily my leathered and leaded 4D 200 16 x 19s are giving me the best serves I've ever had, what were your final specs and lead positions? String setup?
I'm currently at 350grams and 320mm balance (7 pts HL I think) with lead at 12 and counterweighting in the butt.
All other strokes (esp. slice BH) feel solid too.
The Dunlop 4D100....plenty of pop, accurate and good spin.
I've been playing with quite a few sticks over the last 18 months or so, and including:
Head Radical Pro
Head Prestige Classic 600
Head Prestige YT Pro
Wilson 6.1 Tour
Wilson K 6.1 95 (16x18)
Wilson PS 85
Yonex RDIS Mid
All were strung with BB ACE 18 with Gosen OG Micro 17 in the crosses.
Out of the above, I've found the Head Prestige YT Pro to the best with the Wilson K 95 being a close second. The babs are pretty good too, if your arm can take it in the long run (just too light and stiff imo).
Personally I like serving with a heavy, flexible racket with 17g gut strings. The Dunlop Max200g/300i, the Rossi F200, even an old Dunlop Maxply or Wilson Kramer Pro Staff. The flexible frame lets you hold the ball on the strings so long with good gut that you can kick it like a mule, but the weight of the stick and elasticity of gut give you great pop on a flat serve.
I've tried newer Volkls, newer Wilsons, and newer Heads, but the stiffness seems to be more than feels right to me and I can't move the ball around or spin it as well as with the softer racket. Sure, a stiffer frame may give you more raw speed on the ball, but without the placement or spin which - to me - makes your serve less of a consistent weapon.
Look at old videos of guys playing with woods - they'd get some killer angles with the flexible rackets. Returners would be hitting from 8+ feet wide of the alley on some of them...
Those are called aces.:smile:
Well, he could meant a forced error due to the serve, not necessarily an ace.
My Dunlop Revelation Tour Pro lets me hit BOMBS up the middle or out wide at my leisure. I'm averaging 20 ace per match.
I LOVE IT!! As well as the youtek speed pro it lets me hit with a variety of serves plus its serves with just as much pace with more spin.
yup i was trying head youtek prestige pro, babolat apdgt, prince exo3 black, n ur right serving with head is complete different exp u can never replicate with other racquets i used but ground strokes r very much cool with babolat, i don't know if there's any other racquet which serves like prestige pro n plays like apdgt, i mean both in 1 racquet, finding a perfect racquet is so hard
Head Youtek IG instinct and S version too.
I had a Babolat leather grip + wilson pro overgrip in the handle and a few grams in the head at 10-ish and 2-ish.
Final spec was somewhere around 343-345 grams (depending on strings used and overgrips) and balance was similar to yours 6-7 points hl.
My racquet was the "original" aerogel though...not the 4D version. That one had more blue on it than the white-ish 4D .
Gave them to a friend/playing partner, and he uses them with just a leather grip added...no lead in the head.
I use the Dunlop Aerogel 4D 200, but
I bought a Völkl PB 8 315 just for curiosity and
it´s great for serving. People compare it to the
Babolat PD with Völkl feel.
PDGT Anniversary for me. Most consistant with spin and power. I have about a dozen sticks I rotate thru. My hitting partner is always telling me "Just play with the red racquet"
hands down head instinct tour xl !!
its not aeropro drive gt
Biggest serves I ever hit were with some 9oz Yonex stick I demoed. They were slamming up into the top of the curtain at the indoor courts after hitting in the service box. Everybody at the courts stopped to watch because of the noise. I actually bounced one over the curtain.
The chances of hitting a groundstroke into the court in a rally were pretty small, though.
That being said, though, of rackets that are actually usable I hit the hardest first serves with my old Black Aces, using the 14oz (can get better spin with some others that are a bit lighter). When I demoed the Pure Drive, I couldn't get much on my serve. Just felt like the lack of mass didn't allow me to get all there was out of my serve.
I know it's teh same stick as the standard Blue one, but did you happen to find it different than the blue one PD GT??
I ask this, as I have seen posts where people claim a difference. For me, I can;t get my head around a Pure Drive being anything other than Blue.......
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