Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by Cesc Fabregas, Apr 20, 2009.
Murray or Federer imo.
IMO, Federer has the best attacking slice backhand, which he uses to draw opponents into the net with a weak approach shot. It is more of an offensive shot. Murray on the other hand, has a better defensive slice, just getting it back in deep over and over again until the opponent misses.
Fed. His short angled slice is still one of the best shots in the game.
Yeah it is sick his second best shot after his forehand.
In light of some of your more recent posts Cesc, one might almost mistake you for a Murray fan :wink:
I would possibly add Gonzalez to those two.
What? Umm, NO!
Gonzo's slice aint that great its ok but nowhere near the best in the game.
I will have to pick Federer on this one.
Yeah perhaps his defensive slices aren't as strong as those two, but I love how he knifes his attacking and approach slices
I mean Fed.
Haas also has a good slice. Just saw some guy at Monte Carlo, Coppalli?, who used slice a lot. I remember thinking Henman had the best slice in the men's game when he was active.
Andy Roddicks midcourt slice approach, followed closely by Fed. Maybe Santoro?
Feliciano Lopez, too bad he doesn't have a topspin backhand.
His topspin backhand is the worst in the top 50.
Murray's is beautiful by far in my opinion the best one.
LOL at people calling Fed's slice an offensive shot.
The slice is the most pusher-like shot in tennis. There is no intention to create anything, just to lengthen the point and hope for an error. Fed is best at this shot and at pusher tennis in general.
Not true for example Sampras' approach slice was a weapon.
i don't get what makes someones slice better than anothers slice. To me it seems like every pro has a good slice to be honest.
I'm probably wrong though. Can someone give me a player with a really bad slice so I can compare it to Feds maybe? Because a slice doesn't seem like a shot you can really be good at, but that's just me
So prove me wrong lol
Nadal's slice is the best. so much backspin on it
You're right, of course an approach shot is an aggressive move.
I'm talking about a regular slice.
thats semi not true,, a slice shot is a great weapon to use to KEEP flat hitters off the offensive
he constantly uses this shot on roddick when they play, roddick cannot go for his weapon (the flat forehand) with the ball so low to the ground
Murray or Haas.
Well, that makes Nadal a pusher.
Look at, for example, Djokovic's slice and compare it to Murray's, Haas', or Fed's. If hit right, the slice is a tough shot to deal with. If a player can really knife it, the shot will stay extremely low and won't really be attackable. You'll often see an error because it's tough to get under the ball when it's so low.
A lot of players have a slice that sits up and is easy to attack.
Federer all the way!
oh yeah gotcha now. just watched the andy vs novak final they had awhile back and theres a big difference. andy's is much better compared to noles because like you said it stays lower.
thanks for the clarification
Federer's slice obviously. However latley it hasn't been as sharp...
Funny that a Nadal fan is calling another player the best at pusher tennis. The irony...
Radek Stepanek...he mixes it up so nicely with that shot. Also, if you have a good slice backhand and use it often it can disguise the dropshot. To those that think of the slice as a purely defensive shot...that's your opinion. I like it as a set up shot for other weapons. It is a smart shot and has a place for sure.
Federer fo sure.
I like Stepaneks.
Andy Murray.....he has amazing touch.
Is that the slice he uses everytime his opponent passes him left and right at the net?
Federer tries to do too much with his slice and this year he hasnt been playing too well and theres a lot of times hes missed a slice when hes in position in the middle of the net because hes trying to cut so much on the ball
The above speaks volumes about the level of tennis knowledge on this forum__there is no intention to create anything with the slice___haha, u r totally clueless (like most *******s)...go and watch some pre 2000 tennis
Federer for sure.
He doesn't hit it much now and I don't know if he still has it but his slice was crazy.
You bet! I love how he will go into the net behind the worst approch shots ever.
Yeah, when he got to the Aussie finals, I kept hearing about his new slice backhand and I thought it looked pretty horrible. The only thing it did was keep him from going for a crazy backhand winner and slice it to keep him in the point and it helped him a lot, but in and of itself, it was a pretty floaty slice.
You've never played somebody with a good slice. Used correctly, it's like a jab in boxing, meant to keep people off balance, to set up the big knockout. You don't have to hit winners in order to be offensive and impose your game on somebody. For most extreme example, watch Steffi Graf.
Okay, lets apply that to forehands. Don't you think every pro player has a good forehand? So what makes one forehand better than another? Power? Placement? Versatility? Consistency? All of the aforementioned?
Fed's of course.
LOLOLOLOL wow just how do you come up with stuff like this? It's actually amazing how you can call Fed the best pusher at tennis...
Many opponents can't handle a well hit slice that skids and bounces low, especially those with western forehand grips and/or two-handed backhands. It drives a lot of opponents nuts when you hit shots that barely bounce and don't have much pace on them. Many lose patience and as a result, overhit or make unforced errors off of the sliced shot. Yes, the slice is a very effective offensive shot.
So are you saying Nadal, Djokovic, Murray, Nalbandian and Davydenko can't handle slice .
I'm not talking about the pros.
But speaking of pros, not too many of them are able to attack Federer off of his sliced shots.
Del Potro has a hard time dealing with Fed's low slices.
Also I forgot to mention Taylor Dent. The guy has some killer approach slices.
Not even close. Taylor Dent has the best sliced backhand in men's tennis. Reason being that, as an attacking player he automatically puts more weight into it than guys like Federer or Murray and, subsequently, gets more bite. Even when he isn't coming in to the net he still leans into the shot more than guys like Fed and Andy (who hit a bloody good slice, just not as penetrating as Dent).
Disagree Murray and Fed's rally slice is better than Dent's they can put it in unconfortable places for their opponents and have have great control with it. Dent might have a better approach slice but we don't know because he comes to net more than Federer or Murray.
federer i vote
None of them hit a slice the way I like to see it hit. Or at least not often enough. I share Breakpoint's view that slice is (or could be) primarily an attacking shot. Consequently I like to hit a slice with full racquet speed and a stabbing rhythm. Very few pro players hit this shot anymore* - they save the slice for defence or containment. I really don't know why; properly executed an attacking slice is a savage shot for your opponent to deal with.
BTW, If I see Fed hit one more topspin approach shot I'll scream. :twisted:
* Taylor Dent does.
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