Best Sunglasses and lenses for tennis

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  1. DaveDe78

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    Hey everyone, I'm looking to get another pair of sunglasses for tennis, I already have a pair of Bolle's with the Competivision lenses, and they are great, but I am thinking of getting something that's a little more versatile, and a hint darker. I love the way the ball pops with the Bolle's but if you're not looking at the ball the glasses can be a little bit of a distraction, if you're not completely focused and staring at the ball you notice things look a little weird and it gets uncomfortable.

    I was thinking about Oakleys, the VR28 Black Iridium lens seems to be the one suggested for tennis. I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts or suggestion and experience they could share. I'm not too picky about the frame, but I'd love lenses that help the ball really stand out, kind of like the Bolle, but unlike the Bolle I want a lens that doesn't make it uncomfortable if you aren't completely focused and staring at the ball.

    Thanks for your help everyone.
     
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  2. marsh

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    Check out Tifosi. They have some very reasonably priced frames with interchangeable lenses.
     
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  3. autumn_leaf

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    i had the vr28 polarized and thought they were fine for bright days. though i wouldn't wear them if it was going to be cloudy because it would be a bit too dark.

    there was just a thread about this subject this month or last month and there was a poster that said that the bolle came with two lenses and the one besides the competivision was actually preffered for tennis.
     
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  4. charliefedererer

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    Do you have Bolle frames that let you pop out the current lens and insert another? Then definitely consider getting the "polarized sandstone" lens. This high contrast yellow-brown lens is darker than the competivision, but not so dark as black or grey lenses that mute the ball too much. Plus the polarized high contrast feature of the lens makes it a great driving and all around lens off the court.
     
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    What about sunglasses that don't fog up? I have a terrible time with that. Are there any that don't fog?
     
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    Oakley is by far the best sunglasses for sports out of the ones I have used. Specifically, get Oakleys with the hydrophobic lenses which shed water. No fogging.
     
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    Should have added Oakley VR28 Black Iridium is the lens I have in my tennis pair. Excellent lens to use in bright sun of South Florida. I have the Radar Path style which gives tons of coverage so you don't get any sun filtering in from the sides or top.
     
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    i can't really agree to this. i had the flak jacket xlj with the hydrophobic lenses and they fogged up on me from time to time. though i think this is because for some reason i exude heat from my eyeballs :confused: weird...i know...

    haven't tried them, but looking at the simulation i'm interested in the amber polarized...too bad i decided to pick up a set of ballistic m frames that came with clear, gray, and v28 lenses so i can play in varying conditions. in the simulation the amber looked like it let a bit more light in with a sharper contrast than the v28 for those overcast days.
     
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  9. Raphael

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    I use Pro M Frames from Oakley. They fit my face well and stay on no matter how much I run around.
     
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  10. 1540tennis

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    I have used both the Half and Flak Jackets for years and have nothing but positive things to say about them. I have always used the Black Iridium lenses, and honestly can't play without them outdoors...
     
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  11. new_tennis_player

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    For tennis, I would recommend the following features:

    1. browpad to absorb sweat

    2. small cutouts near the top or bottom of the lenses to allow for body heat to dissipate (prevent fogging)

    3. neutral brown lenses seem to work under most conditions

    Check out some of the online cycling retailers (such as colorado cyclist); they have great selection of high quality sunglasses with these features.

     
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    For tennis, there is only one way to go. Glasses made specifically for tennis. . . . Bolle Vigilante or Parole with the Competivision lenses.
     
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    No but you can buy anti-fogger drops. They are usually available at scuba diving stores or other stores that sell snorkeling or scuba masks. This used to be a problem with my prescription glasses during the indoor season in some bubbles.
     
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  14. KFwinds

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    I also like the Oakley's, but I much prefer the G30 lens for tennis. They are not as dark, and the contrast is better IMO.
     
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    ZeroRH+ provide superb comfort at reasonable prices.
     
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  16. Raphael

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    I have G26 lenses..do you think they are about the same as the G30's?
     
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    The problem with the G26 or G30 lenses are that Oakley warns specifically that you can't drive with them. I looked into them when I bought mine, but they didn't stand out to me for tennis (golf maybe).

    So I bought the VR28 black iridium and love them. (plus I can use them while driving - legally)
    (the G26/30 lenses change the colors of traffic lights)
     
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    I usually wear Oakley Flak's or Half's when I play, but just recently, I picked up a pair of Maui Jims to wear for casual. I didn't have a pair of Oakleys with me so I thought I'd wear the Maui Jim's because I wasn't going to play a match, I was just hitting with a friend. To my surprise, the Maui Jims were very comfortable, didn't more, and didn't fall off once, didn't even feel like they were going to slip. I was surprised! I'm going to try them out again tonight so see how they are again. One thing I really liked was that they didnt fog, probably because they are a wire frame style so less heat is contained.
     
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  19. Raphael

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    Unfortunately, I don't think they make VR28 for the pro M frame in the heater size, which is what I use. :(
     
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    Solarbat leverage at solarbatleverage.com, nuff said


    The most innovative Tennis Sunglasses ever developed!

    Solarbat Leverage is the most advanced tennis sunglass lens ever developed.  With its patent pending gradient, green tint, the tennis ball and lines are illuminated while blocking out damaging and often blinding rays of the sun.  Although standard tennis glasses on the market have offered similar properties, Solarbat Leverage presents advanced technology with superior visual enhancements of a players most important terciary targets – the ball and lines.

    Ball and court line illumination while offering subtle progression of light transmission!

    Nose pads and temple boots which grip better as your body temperature increases!
     
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    i went on the oakley govt. site and saw that they have the si m frame heater in vr28.
     
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    I think the one that Clement wears is the best in the market.
     
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  23. Raphael

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    Would those lenses fit a pro M frame?
     
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    Interesting... but it is hard to choose a fit through the internet... I like the look of the Double XL though...
     
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    Now is it just me, or does this sound a bit like it was planted by someone who works for the company? I went and looked at the site and this sounds like it was taken right from it. Not once does he say, I think they work or anything showing a personal opinion, just a product plug. Outside of their webpage I couldn't find a review or anything that didn't sound like it was from a regular person. I imagine we would'e heard of these by now if they were so great.
     
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  26. MayDay

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    ace18 = spam?

    I'm also looking at the Oakley Radar. Fits pretty well....
     
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  27. ace18

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    Yes, my comment was a plug for Solarbat, just as everyone is plugging their Oakley's or Bolle's. I don't work for Solarbat but what's the difference between putting out some detail about the company vs providing a website url so you can look at the product, making it easier for everyone. There is a testamonial on the website and I've put in mine. First off, the glasses are extremely comfortable, they have adjustable nosepads and as well as adjustable arms. The clarity of these glasses is incredible, they don't fog like other glasses. They have a lifetime warranty and based upon the website, they will charge you a small amount to fix certain problems. I broke an arm off my glasses, my own fault and they replaced the glasses, no questions asked. The company has been setting up tents at all of the Southern USTA state and regional tournaments, this is where I was able to try on and buy these glasses.
     
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    I know the guy that works for Solarbat (it's a very small company right now) but I have heard great reviews. I think the guy's name is JR.

    He sets up a booth at a lot of sanctioned USTA tourneys as well as the state playoffs. Personally, I am happy with my Oakleys but every single person that bought the Solarbat sunglasses have been happy with them. Also, I had a friend buy some that were slightly scratched because they were a demo model of a prototype. He's getting them returned and a new pair sent to him. From what I can tell Solarbat offers a good product as well as good customer service for a smaller company.
     
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  29. DaveDe78

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    You're missing the point. Sure people are posting a lot about oakley and bolle, I decided on a pair of Bolle glasses with competivision, but they are stating their own person opinions, not not just copy and pasting something from a web site like a corporate d-bag. The thread is about your thoughts and experience with different glasses, not what the companies marketing dept. says. This second post is more of what the thread is about, you stated our opinion and your good experience with the company, you could've said that and then said "here's a link to their webpage." That would've made you look more credible as an unbiased source. But thanks to your first post you've lost that, now it's kind of tough to read your reviews without thinking you're part of some marketing department. Even this post has some tinge of a sales pitch to it.
    Personally I've never used or even heard of Solarbat, but I thought they looked like bolle competivion knock offs, and the website makes them look a little like one of those "as seen on TV" type of products, like those Bull$**t HD sunglasses. I'm not going to say they aren't any good, but I won't be buying them. Maybe if they have a demo booth out here in CA sometime and I can try them, but till then I'll stick with something I know works, rather then going off what someone cut and paste from the website. If you really don't work for Solarbat and you really do think they are great glasses I'm sorry, but I think you did them a disservice and hurt your credibility as an independent reviewer.

    After all that, I've settled on the Bolle Competivision. These glasses are great for tennis, the lenses make the ball really stand out and they don't make the rest of the court too dark. Don't use them for driving though, the way they mute other colors makes it weird.
     
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  30. charliefedererer

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    It's hard for me to believe that anyone who read this did not think you were importing a quote from their website. But if you want to be clearer about something like just in the future, just put quotation marks around it and the exact URL after it so others can check it out by just clicking on the URL.

    Looking at their tennis sunglasses, they seem to have basically "stolen" the competivsion teal lens, but converted it into a "gradient" lens by making the top half of the lens darker than the bottom half. This is probably a reasonable idea and worth trying for those who like competevision lenses (I don't as I don't like playing in such a dreary tennis world with everything washed out.) I do wonder if they are going to be hearing from Bolle lawyers if their sales figures grow, or has the "competivision" patent expired?
     
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  31. charliefedererer

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    Checking on the competivision patent in a google search, I came across an interesting article by an opthalmologist who claims the competivision lenses would not work well on green courts, and that the wavelengths blocked would be hazardous to the eyes (compared with most sunglasses):

    From - Double Fault! Ocular Hazards of a Tennis Sunglass
    by Michael F. Marmor, MD
    Arch Ophthalmol. 2001;119:1064-1066.
    "From the standpoint of improving the contrast or visibility of a tennis ball to enhance sports performance, this design is inherently flawed on any court with a greenish surface, which comprises most hard and clay courts in the United States. Through a blue-green lens, a yellow ball appears greenish (Figure 2) and thus is less visible against the green court (which will seem bright through this lens). The same would apply for a yellow or white golf ball viewed against green grass. Furthermore, blue light in general is less effective physiologically with respect to functions such as acuity, contrast detection, and motion perception.2-3 In other words, critical perceptions are actually reduced rather than enhanced. These bluish lenses will be of no visual benefit except possibly on a reddish or amber court (such as the red clay of Roland Garros). Here, the ball may appear to be relatively light against a darker court, but these lenses still should not be worn because of the hazard associated with blue light."

    "A statement4 on ocular UV radiation hazards in sunlight, endorsed by the American Academy of Ophthalmology, the American Optometric Association, and Prevent Blindness America, advises that sunglasses should block 99% to 100% of the full UV spectrum (UV-A extends up to 380-400 nm). The document notes that additional protection for the retina can be provided by lenses that reduce the transmission of violet-blue visible light. These recommendations follow the findings of many researchers,5-9 and reflect concerns that both near-UV and visible blue light may contribute to macular aging and degeneration. Blue lenses do exactly the opposite: they block long wavelengths and admit the violet-blue end of the light spectrum. They are not only substandard as sunglasses but could, under some circumstances, be more hazardous than wearing no glasses at all. Because so much of the bright (yellow) end of the light spectrum is blocked, the world appears subjectively dark through blue glasses, and the wearer might spend extra time in the sun or have a relatively dilated pupil. If either of these occurs, the eyes could be exposed to more short wavelength light than without any lenses."

    "A neutral gray or amber sunglass that blocks 99% to 100% of UV-A and UV-B light will provide additional protection and may even help slightly to make the ball stand out (depending on the color of the court). However, there is no rationale for a blue lens, whether for children, tennis players, or anyone else. Ophthalmologists should be aware of the properties and the risks of blue lenses to advise parents of young children and sports-minded patients. Tennis players in particular should be aware that a blue lens commits a double fault, and does not serve well for either perception or safety."
    - http://archopht.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/119/7/1064
     
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    Charlie,

    Great find, and worth reading.

    I have found that a pair of native sunglasses have worked the best for me. They have a brown / amber type lens which is polarized, not only makes things pop, they are very comfortable and have never moved on me.

    Funny thing was I bought them for skiing.

    Gary
     
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    Serengeti POLAR PhD DRIVERS with the plastic frames.
    Fantastic for tennis and everything else.
     
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  34. KFwinds

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    I don't usually wear my Oakleys for driving, but when I do I change the lenses; I have a second set which are smoke grey iridium. I still love the G30 for tennis, and never play outside without them :)
     
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    $20 polarized chilis/peppers from REI.

    Work great, black grey frames with grey polarized lenses. I only wear them in extreme sun/bright, otherwise i just wear a visor.
     
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    I used to wear these G30 lenses in half jackets and flack jackets. But I never really like the way Oakley's dig into your face. Still it was great to wear a pair of sunglasses that didn't slip while sweating.

    Recently I switched to Maui Jim sunglasses. Ho'okipa frames and Maui HT lenses. The frames are much more comfortable than Oakley. These lenses allow 25% light transmission (G30's allow 28% light transmission). Both lenses highlight greens very nicely (well really they just don't filter out that spectrum) so both lenses are excellent for tennis.
     
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    I'm a big fan of Oakley, however since last season was my first in forever I used what I had by Tifosi/Ryders as each pair has photochromic lenses. My Ryders had a similar setup to a Radar/M-Frame and covered my fat head well.

    As someone who only likes to use them in extreme sunlight, ie. 2:30 in the afternoon or when its directly in your face while setting in the evening.

    the photochromic allowed me to keep them on throughout the match without it feeling too light/dark...
     
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    I was about to pull the trigger on one of these today as I thought I'd lost my Oakleys. Amazingly though my Oakleys finally turned up this afternoon. :D

    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Tifosi_GT_Fototec_Pave_Matte_Black_Sunglasses/descpageTIFOSI-GTFPMB.html

    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Tifosi_GT_Fototec_Tyrant_Iron_Sunglasses/descpageTIFOSI-GTFTI.html

    They both have this photochromatic lens designed for Golf/Tennis.

    Fototec GT: http://www.tifosioptics.com/technology/fototec/

    The price is good compared to most quality glasses. I was wondering what lens color you got and if anyone else out there has tried this specific GT lens. Also wondering about fit. I like the Tyrant style but the Pave is indicated to fit a larger size range of heads. The look fairly similar so wouldn't be a big deal either way.

    So planning ahead for when my Oakleys disappear for good...hopefully a long time from now...what say ye?

    **BTW, I have the Oakley Half Jackets with the VR28 Black Iridium XLJ lenses. Very sharp and clear with excellent contrast on the court. In the brightest sun some may prefer darker, but I like them as I feared too dark would diminish clarity.
     
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  39. new_tennis_player

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    lol, sunglasses are notorious for growing legs and taking off into the hinterlands....

    That's why I try to spend around $30 or less for any pair, which I've mostly been successful in doing.

    Personally, I like brown lenses the best: the yellow ones transmit too much light for my taste at mid day. Whoa, did I just admit to playing in the middle of the day?!?

    edit: btw, here's an article on the profit margins for sunglasses. They are at least 64%. The technology involved is very low tech, and mostly people are paying for the cache of a particular label, such as oakley:

    http://financiallyfit.yahoo.com/fin...igner-sunglasses-worth-the-price?ywaad=ad0035
     
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    Yeah, these Oakleys were the first "real" sunglasses I've bought since a pair of Vuarnet's I bought in 1985! I've bought a lot of cheapos over the years but actually managed to hang onto my Vuarnets...though they were "lost" for various periods of time over the years...unfortunately they broke across the nose piece last year (to be honest they weren't too stylish anymore!).

    I have 3 swimsuits and today I went to put a junk pair of sunglasses in my swimsuit pocket only to find there was already a pair in there. I was very happy to find it was my Oakleys residing there, they had been "lost" for about 2 weeks. They are the only ones I own that are clear enough to play tennis in. Guess I gotta stop using them for boating too.

    I lose cheap things fairly easily, but in general have more luck taking care of things I care about. My Oakley lenses are kind of a sandy brown with a hint of rose. They are nice...don't make things look too strange and you forget they are on after a while.
     
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    I am thinking of getting Oakley Half-Jackets XLJ, but I am not sure what to do about the lenses. I want polarized lenses because I want to use them for driving as well. They come with the black iridium polarized, and I was wondering how these do for tennis. Also, what does VR-28 mean? It seems like VR-28 is recommended for tennis, so what is the difference between the VR-28 polarized, the VR-28 black iridium polarized, and the black iridium polarized. I may get to lenses, one for driving and one for tennis, but I would prefer having one set of lenses that work for both. Any suggestions?
     
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    For me the main thing is that the lenses are polarized and not too close to the face so they are less likely to fog up. Also, I prefer charcoal colored lenses as opposed to brown or amber. Amber or orange lenses make it more difficult to see a yellow tennis ball.
     
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    Just bought some Flak Jacket XLJs with the default lenses. Very happy with the purchase, but I tried the VR28 Black Iridium Polarized and they were much better. Though I was not on a tennis court when I tried them.

    Plan on getting a set.
     
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    How are the VR-28 black iridium polarized much better? Also, Aren't amber or brown lenses made for tennis?
     
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    Everything seemed crisper somehow. Hard to put into words.

    Again, I was not on a tennis court when I tried them, so can't comment on that.
     
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  46. SirGounder

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    I'm partial to Oakley myself. I like the Radar line. Great lenses and really light.
     
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    Thanks. Those lenses seem nice, but accessory lenses are quite expensive.
     
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  48. tennis_lover_x

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    Oakleys are so expensive, often $200 to $300 for the latest pair, if not more.

    This is 5X or 6X what you would pay for competing brands with identical technology.

    The tech that Oakley uses is likely identical to what others are using, and it's not expensive technology at all.

    I want to start a "cheap quality sunglasses" thread.
     
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    The Oakley Half Jacket's have been the best sunglass that I have owned. Not only for how they look, which my wife says darn good on me, but for the performance on court. I've bought different lenses as well, including the very slightly tinted clear lens, that I've worn at night.

    A couple of caveats. I sweat from the head quite a bit and so almost always where a hat and on very hot or humid days the lenses have fogged up during play. Also, sweat has gotten onto the inside of the lens, and it does in fact bead, but drips down to the edge of the lense and sometime stays there until I remove the frame to shake or wipe them off. This doesn't happen all the time, and doesn't stop me from wearing them on the court.
     
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  50. aznfatmonkey

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    Does anybody have any experiences with Maui Jims? What's better, the HCL bronze or the Maui HT, and why? I recently went to a sunglasses shop, and they said they recommended these over Oakley's for sure, because they're more durable and the lenses are better. They also have a good warranty. I ended up getting them because they have a 90 day return policy. I got the Banyans with Maui HT lenses. Any opinions? I can go back and exchange them if I want something else. Also, would the Maui HT be too light for bright days? I'm going to be driving with them too.
     
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