best tennis match of all time or what?!!!!

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  1. samprasvsfederer123

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    these guys would kill federer and nadal in the now, wow shows you why pete is the best pete would beat fed on grass hard court and carpet with federer only winning n clay it may be true that federer may be more complete cause of claybut in a 3 out of 4 grand slam winner thing sampras would win.
     
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  2. I LOVE that match.
     
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  3. tonyg11

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    that's grown up big boy tennis right there!

    i like to call that "weaponized tennis". There aint no way you're gonna get 30 shot rallies hitting shots like that. Impossible. Nobody plays with that kind of agression anymore.
     
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  4. dincuss

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    I liked any of Beckers matches.
     
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  5. helloworld

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    Power tennis at its best.
     
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  6. veroniquem

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    Serve fest at its worst...
     
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    Trolling at its worst...
     
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    Those are some ugly strokes.
     
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  9. If you're calling this match a 'serve fest' then you haven't watched it. I understand the fact that you may like a different style of tennis, but this match was by no means a 'serve fest.'
     
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    Ah no sorry, just my opinion, I like those guys but still... I'm glad there has been a lot of progress on the returns so that we can have longer rallies and more suspense.
     
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  11. MajinX

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    its a good match, exciting, close and everything u can want, but i tihnk i enjoy more of the modern tennis more, with some vollying, some defensive players, counter punchers etc, back then the courts were so fast u were basicly forced to play offensive and serve and volley.
     
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  12. Chris De Tone

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    I own this match on DVD and never get tired of it. I love that style of play. I know that it's not for everyone...but it's definitely for me. Just great.
     
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    That was a fantastic match.
     
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  14. Radical Shot

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    Fantastic last rally. I also enjoyed all of Beckers matches. You don't see guys throwing themselves all over the court these days.

    I used to love watching him dive, lunge, scramble and dive again, just to stay in the point. I'm sure he lost a lot of skin on tour.
     
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  15. clayman2000

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    not neccesarily.... its a different game now. Reason why S&V was so effective was the high returns. Now players are better at chipping big serves back.
    There is no doubt that some passing shots are amazing, but you have to remember that if Nadal played one of those two at that time, he'd have a field day, chipping returns low than passing them with an angle.

    That being said, it would be interesting to see a top 5 S&V player compete now. They would certainly have some advantages like surprise, and unfamiliarity.
     
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  16. Blue Drop

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    Wow, incredible volleying on both sides.

    (And holy cr*p Becker -- a sweater vest for a professional tennis match? Seriously?)
     
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  17. Blue Drop

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    Oh wait, that's just his the pattern of his shirt. Disregard the sweater vest comment.
     
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  18. tonyg11

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    I'm sorry but both Boris and Pete were hitting return winners. Plus there hasnt been anyone as good as Andre at the return so far. What's so hard about standing 10' behind the baseline and hitting a deep return because you KNOW nobody is coming to the net off their serves? Nothing.

    Modern tennis is like those Kung Fu movies with fights that last 30 min. The tennis in that video is more like a western gun fight where at any moment someone can pull the trigger and end the point. In a way the short points were more exiting to watch because ANYTHING could happen. In a Nadal match you KNOW what’s going to happen. A 30 shot rally with Nada’s opponent eventually making an unforced error. To each his own
     
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  19. tonyg11

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    How much practice have players had hitting returns against SVers? None. Against a SV you have to stand close to the baseline and jump all over the return. Now adays you can stand 1 mile behind the baseline and hit a moonball return with 10000 RPM worth of spin. Fine against a baseliner, not fine against Boris or Pete
     
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  20. veroniquem

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    I like point construction and longer rallies.
    1-2-3 points put me to sleep no matter how good the shots are. HOWEVER of course mediocre longer rallies are definitely worse than boom boom tennis performed by the best players!
     
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  21. ChanceEncounter

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    "Progress" like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW4z0FnUz4o

    Oh wait, that's from an earlier time. Sounds like "regression" to me. It's amazing that your bias seeps through your opinion by calling it "progress on returns." Progress like taking it back to indistinguishable 50 shot rallies in the 70s?
     
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    Nice match, but not the best of all times.
     
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  23. I think both of you should note that the matches to which you are referring are polar opposites as far as court speed is concerned; one is indoor carpet, the other is RG clay. Both lend themselves to a certain strategy or style of play.
     
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  24. Tshooter

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    Power tennis = boring tennis. I thought tennis hit a low point at W final: sampras v. ivanesevic. Pete v. Becker not as bad but let's not go back there.
     
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  25. helloworld

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    Lol!! Those guys literally walked to hit the shots!! hahhaah!!! :D
     
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    It's more like a battle of wits,

    There are some very pretty shots here, but it's somewhat pingpongish.

    sorry but I found it to be boring.
     
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  27. ChanceEncounter

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    Very true, but the play in the 70s was considerably slower in general than the play in the 90s. Racquet technology had a lot to do with it, but players just weren't crushing the ball like they were in the 90s either.

    My point is that veroniquem calls something "progress" even though it was basically the norm before the incredibly fast play of the 90s. At best, that represents a cyclical change of style, or a style change influenced by technology, but it isn't progression of the game. That's biased terminology at best.
     
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  28. Cesc Fabregas

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    One of the best matches I have ever seen.
     
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  29. DunlopDood

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    wow that's some great tennis, thanx for the vid
     
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    Fun to watch. Great stuff. And to all the "haters" out here...The Rafanatics etc...Why the hate? Wouldn't you love to see our boy - Nadal - play against someone with this style of game? I know I sure would - and I'm sure he would love to try and would be totally up to the challenge.

    And, no - no one does play like this now - and certainly not at this kind of level. I think it would be great to see. That's the kind of great match up that make tennis a sport to be a fan of.
     
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  31. fps

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    that was some really good stuff. one of the links away from it was to AO 2009 highlights. from one to the other, they're different, but the level of tennis there is utterly blistering as well. we are lucky that there have been several styles of tennis made dominant by their best purveyors.

    was watching some borg connors USO earlier, that was very cool too!
     
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  32. ninman

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    If by "progress" you mean gradually going from 3/4 distinct surfaces to just 1 surface only, then yes the game has progressed. The game had MUCH more variety in those days, deny it all you want, but that's just a fact. If you love rallies, then that's what the clay season is for. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there has ever been a single match played at the French Open that you can call a "serve fest". So in fact the tennis circuit has ALWAYS had a time devoted to people like you that love that kind of tennis, now there is NO point in the season devoted to people who like serve and volley tennis. Personally I like watching TENNIS, that means all styles, not just one.
     
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  33. Cenc

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    its definitely one of the best matches EVER played

    interesting part is that i can show 10 sampras' matches like this one
    and as a response fedfans can show me a match with roddick
     
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  34. fps

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    what's that got to do with anything? uncalled for, post your own thread if you want to try and get this one off-track by bringing people down to your level, cheers.
     
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    Truly amazing. If one got the other's serve back in play it seems like most of the time a winner was hit straight off the return. WE need more of such aggressive play today.
     
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  36. Cenc

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    oh i touched ur feelings for someone sorry
    this was response to those who say that they would have no chance in todays game so shut up please i guess ur able to read?
     
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  37. kafelnikov

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    Yeah definitely powerful stuff from some real tennis legends.
    Nostalgic for me because this was around the time I really became interested in tennis.


    And you gotta love Pete's pyjama-shorts!
     
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  38. Cenc

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    haha technology and outfit are 2 things that have improved over the last decade
    game definitely not :D
     
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  39. joeri888

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    I would expect you to love Federer's game most of all if it's about point construction. If it's about outlasting nobody's better than Nadal.

    By the way.. this court looks really strange without the tramlines
     
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  40. fps

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    i don't see people saying that in this thread, and there are sooo many negative threads already where you can say this kind of stuff. what are some of your favourite matches?
     
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  41. Cenc

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    read again

    my favorite matches
    i will write all no matter if sampras is in them or not
    1) ivanisevic vs rafter wimby 2001 - guess why

    also
    sampras safin uso 2000
    sampras agassi wimby 1999, uso 2001, aussie 2000, uso 1995
    sampras federer wimby 2001
    nadal djokovic madrid 2009
    sampras becker masters cup 1996
    nadal moya chennai 2008
    nadal verdasco aussie 2009
    agassi kafelnikov aussie 2000
    sampras corretja uso 1996
    sampras courier aussie 1995
    krajicek sampras wimby 1996
    hewitt sampras uso 2001
    and many many more
    these are probably best matches ever played
     
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  42. BorisBeckerFan

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    How do you suppose one goes about remembering something that never happened? I think that what you are really asking for is for people to agree with your imagined opinion. I really don't know waht would have happend. Nadal's passing shot's are great but the style of play was way more aggressive back then. I think it would have been interesting to see.
     
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    Sampras in his serve only one dimensional Best ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
     
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  44. Cenc

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    whose shots from 10 years ago were all better than feds now, just every single shot... one dimensional... and ur not even conscious that u also watch same 2 shots all the time - forehand and backhand and nothing else
    when ur at net u have 1000 of shots, from the baseline there are 2 or 3 that are used which means serve and volley has much more variety than baseline game...
     
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    I'm very sorry but that's just stupid, baseline game has a huge variation of shots too. It's not that you only have FH and BH, there are lots of types of FH and lots of types of BH.
     
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  46. P_Agony

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    Wow, you really think so?

    This match has everything - great serves, baseline winners, great volleys, winners on the run. They both painted the lines. Great match.
     
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  47. adlis

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    carpet is banned on the ATP world tour because of boring ace fests turning away the fans. Do you want talentless hacks like Goran serving a billion aces a match?


    Also Carpet is Banned because it causes this..


    warning

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdD3BDCcKTE&fmt=18
     
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    Incredible, high-level sustained tennis throughout. Amazing.
     
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  49. You haven't watched the match or the highlights, have you?
     
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  50. GameSampras

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    Its definitely up there in terms of quality of play. But Im still a firm believer that the 4 set tiebreak, USO 01 match between Andre-Pete is the greatest match ever in terms of quality of play.

    Fed-Nadal Wimby 08 finals for the drama though but not in terms of play quality
     
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