Best unfinished matches ?

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    here are some examples that come to my mind, that i really enjoyed until the unfortunate end:
    • pioline d. rafter, USO R128 1999, 46 46 63 75 10 ret.
    • agassi d. rios, miami SF 2002, 67 64 ret.
    • delpo d. gonzo, bercy R16 2009, 67 76 ret.
    (by the way, those were really tight when one of the players had to give up... wasn't easy to guess who was going to win !)

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    chang d. connors, RG R32 1991, 46 75 62 46 00 ret.
    1986 Boca West SF: Ivan Lendl def. Jimmy Connors (1-6, 6-1, 6-2, 2-6, 5-2 def.) [mus.]
     
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    He said "best" matches. Not mugfests between 2 all serve clowns.
     
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    sorry.. couldnt read your post. i was amazed at your avatar of jaws!
     
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    What are you talking about? My avatar is amazing. Are you another Justine hater? It seems so! :evil:
     
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    guys guys... a bit of discipline, please ! :p

    ... or i force you to watch the unfinished 'simon vs monfils' (AO 2009) to help you to stay on topic.
    be reasonnable... you wouldn't want to force me to do such a cruel thing, would you ?
     
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    That is beyond cruel. I still wake up in the middle of the night with horrible nightmares from that match. WHY WON'T THE MEMORY FADE AWAY?

    Even Simon's Bedroom Eyes did nothing to take away the vomiting feeling.
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    Many shall not agree, but I thought the Murray/Nadal match at AOpen this year was quite good the first two sets. But I don't know if I would put it up there on the best unfinished matches list.
     
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    1986 Boca West SF: Ivan Lendl def. Jimmy Connors (1-6, 6-1, 6-2, 2-6, 5-2 def.)

    This was certainly the craziest match. It ruined Connors' 1986 tennis year.
     
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    Nadal-Murray Aussie 2010


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    The Simon Monfils match ruined a whole day for me. I remember my girlfriend had finally agreed to watch a tennis match with me and sure enough what match was on the television when we were about to settle in a watch..Simon Monfils. It took me nearly three months to convince her tennis was really not that boring...when the match ended cause of Monfils retiring needless to say a movie went on and she did not want to watch anymore tennis....I hate those two men to this date.
     
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    interesting. by the way, what was the reason for jimbo's retirement ?
    ... and why did it ruin his tennis year ? i mean... his results don't appear incredibly worse after this match, do they ? (well, apart from the slams where he performed poorly, that's true)
     
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    hilarous !!! :D
    man... is that a true story ?! :rolleyes:

    if so, you've got all my sympathy... but try to see the things under another angle: consider yourself more than lucky she stayed* with you despite this terrible experience !!! ;)



    *(emm... she did, right ?) [​IMG]
     
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    You say disparaging remarks about numerous other players, calling them cheats and classless. All the while you have the poster girl for all of those remarks you lay upon other more talented players.
     
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    Connors was defaulted after yet another raging argument with the umpire, Jeremy Shales, led to him walking off the court while 2-5 down in the fifth set. From the 30th March 1986, Connors was banned from tennis for 10 weeks and was fined $20,000 for his conduct in the 1986 Boca West match against Lendl.

    Connors returned to tennis at 1986 Queen's Club, losing in the final against Mayotte. The reason I say the suspension ruined his 1986 tennis year is because Connors then lost in the first round of 1986 Wimbledon to Robert Seguso, the first time Connors had lost that early in a slam since the 1973 French Open. Connors then went on to lose in the third round of the 1986 US Open to Todd Witsken, his worse US Open performance since 1972. Connors finished 1986 with his world ranking at number 8, compared to finishing 1985 and 1987 with his world ranking at number 4.

    I don't believe Connors would have done so poorly at those 2 slams if that 10 week suspension had never happened. It knocked him out of his stride. Of course, by saying "ruined" I am talking relatively. For most tennis players, Connors' 1986 would have been fantastic.
     
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    i didn't notice it was a "def" and not a "ret"... my bad. ;)
    thanks for the interesting info, i didn't know that... and now i understand better why you used the word "ruined" !


    by the way, it made me think about another famous disqualification:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z8IACYeL-c
    :p
     
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  17. vive le beau jeu !

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    thanks for the clip... wow, what a mess at the end !
    i have to admit that my limited english didn't allow me to really understand exactly *when* he was defaulted ;)
    ... and also that these were fun times, after all !
    (but fortunately serena is still here to perpetuate the tradition !) :rolleyes:

    by the way, is it another connors-lendl match at the end of the clip ?
     
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    Haha yes she did stay with me lol. I guess that in a way might have been an unplanned revenge for years or cheesy romantic comedies.
     
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    how could i not have mentionned the following one too... ;)
    chang d. connors, RG R32 1991, 46 75 62 46 00 ret.
    (he retired after winning the first point of the 5th set !)
     
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    aphex vs. guy, Ladder match, battle for no.10 position:

    Aphex detects weakness in guy's single-handed backhand to high balls.
    Aphex starts moonballing to the backhand like crazy.
    Aphex wins the first set 12-10 in the tie break.

    Guy gets pissed off, furiously walks away mumbling "this is not tennis!!"

    Aphex conquers no.10 spot.
     
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  21. vive le beau jeu !

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    by some coincidence... are you an "aphextard" ? ;)



    (but you really nadaled this poor guy ?)
     
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    Of course...you too?


    Yep, I Ralphed that dbag to tears...and he's actually the owner of the club lol
     
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    Holy **** vortex is banned?!
     
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    Why is Cheatal called Ralph now. Who established this? lol

    (Wasn´t here for quite a while.)
     
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    This is as big a surprise as when a found out Lenin was a communist:)
     
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    The name escapes me now, it's that guy who used to fight with Drakulie all the time...
     
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    Ahh, yeah I remember those fights. (Can´t remind his name.)
     
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    I want a re-match, aphex.

    But this time on clay, so I can show you what real tennis is.
     
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    Trust me, you're way too cool to be that guy Blinky:)

    I only play on clay:):)
     
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    Yeah, you're right, aphex. I am way too cool.

    But you forgot to mention how incredibly humble I am, though.
     
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  32. vive le beau jeu !

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    let's add some interesting davis cup ones.
    i didn't see them, unfortunately... did you ? ;)

    a goran one:
    1997, CRO V AUT EAZ: Schaller d. Ivanisevic 6-3 6-4 6-7 2-6 3-1 RET (clay)
    that one was on the friday, i think goran had cramps and had to give up despite coming back from 2 sets to 0.
    but he comes back on court on saturday and wins the double (with hirszon).
    and on sunday, he faces muster, who was undefeated on clay in davis cup... and beats him 67 75 67 62 75 !
    (only clay davis cup loss ever for muster)
    too bad croatia finally lost 3-2...

    a decisive one:
    1998, SWE V ITA, Final: Norman d. Gaudenzi 6-7 7-6 4-6 6-3 6-6 RET (clay)
    1st rubber of the final ! italy didn't recover...

    a fresh one:
    2013, ARG vs. GER, WG, 1st RD: Berlocq d. Kohlschreiber 3-6 7-5 2-6 6-4 4-5 RET (clay)
    1st rubber of the tie... germany didn't recover either.

    2 sad ones: rafter having to give up despite his famous fighting spirit... and despite showing a good opposition against well-known claycourters (cramps ?). :(
    2001, BRA vs AUS, QF: against kuerten 6-4 4-6 6-7(1) 1-2 RET
    2000, ESP vs AUS, Final: against ferrero 7-6(4) 6-7(2) 2-6 1-3 RET


    a surprising one: djokovic giving up despite leading davydenko 6-4 6-3 4-6 0-0 RET
    (1st round 2008, on hard... he could have won the tie for serbia by winning this 4th rubber, but russia ended up winning 3-2)
     
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    while thinking on mac's famous default at the AO, i thought it deserved a least a mention in this thread... if not because of the quality of the match itself, at least for the stunning outcome ! ;)

    Nb: disqualification in a slam apparently already happened before... but before the open era ! (a spanish player named willie alvarez, at RG 1963)
    and it happened again later... arriens at RG 1995 and koubek at RG 2000 (and also kuerten at RG 1998, but it was a doubles match). any others ?


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    pernfors d. mcenroe [4] 16 64 57 42 (15-30 on mcenroe's serve)



    so... back to present times, any new interesting unfinished match since 2011 ?
    (apart from nishikori being forced to retire after toying with the nadal in madrid this year ?) :(
     
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    This one was epic
     
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    talking about the 1990 AO (cf. post #32 and the infamous default), how was the quality of the final before edberg had to retire ? :(
    (i didn't see it)
    lendl [1] d. edberg [3] 46 76(7-3) 52 ret.
     
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    Nalbandian knows a thing or ten about unfinished meals at the dinner buffets but he also now knows how to leave a perfectly good grass court final match without a match point being played. mr cilic says thank you!
     
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    1995 Wimbledon with Tarango against Mronz (Tarango walked off after a second code violation and got defaulted). 1995 US Open with Matsuoka against Korda (Matsuoka couldn't get treatment for cramps, was writhing in agony, and was unable to continue, getting defaulted).
     
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    good ones, mustard !

    oh yes... jeff tarango and his buddy bruno rebeuh !!! :D good old times... how could i forget that one ?!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6tSkVqewfw

    and the poor matsuoka... remember having read about it but i didn't see any footage of that.
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    this of course makes me think about goran having to retire against HT lee for lack of equipement (the famous brithton incident !). ;)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdzqW_7--1M

    also, agassi got defaulted twice in his career... but maybe nastase did better ?
    (other disqualifications in addition to the one against ashe at the masters ?... which didn't keep him from winning the tournament !)

    indianapolis 1996: nestor d. agassi 16 63 def. ('for the twin sins of ball and verbal abuse')
    san jose 1999: mamiit d. agassi 06 66 def. ('verbal obscenities'... didn't keep him from finishing the year #1 !)

    masters 1975: ashe d. nastase 16 75 41 def.
    that was some way to end the match, you're right !!! :p
     
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    The connors match in the mc final that was stopped and never finished. In the late 70s or early 80s I think.
     
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    Were these spaghetti racquets edible? :)
     
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    right !
    stopped at 5-5 between vilas and connors, in 1981, because of the weather, i suppose.

    and there was another final beetween connors and lendl, in rotterdam (indoor) in 1984, that was stopped... because of a bomb scare !
    (lendl led 60 10 and connors, strangely, was seen in a telephone booth during a changeover shortly before the interruption)

    other examples ?

    i think there are several occurences of DC dead rubbers that weren't finished... any significant one that comes to mind ? :)
    maybe the quality of your digestion would depend on if you choose natural gut or synthetic strings ?

    in both cases, i'd recommend our homemade sauce:
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    There's the infamous Brazil vs. Austria Davis Cup tie from 1996. Muster/Plamberger refused to play on in their doubles rubber against Kuerten/Oncins, due to missiles being thrown at them and sections of fans using mirrors and watches to reflect the sun into their eyes. Austria were later fined for their withdrawal.
     
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    Was that Nadal-Nishikori final on clay finished? Can't remember where it was.
     
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    It was in Madrid this year.... come on man.
     
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  46. vive le beau jeu !

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    then let's not forget either the famous 2001 CHI-ARG tie ! ;)
    i think so: i checked my memory archives and i can pretty clearly see the nadal bite the dust and nishikori lift the trophy. [​IMG]
     
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    There are things more important than remembering tennis facts.
    Anyway, I would've liked to see that match being played out without Nishikori getting injured.
     
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    Yes, that too. The 1996 Brazil vs. Austria tie was actually on indoor carpet, and thinking about it, I can't quite remember if the venue had a glass roof or whether it was actually the lights rather than the sun that was reflected into the eyes of Muster and Plamberger.
     
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    Which one would you recommend with a bolognese sauce? :)
     
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    try a plate of fresh kirschbaum strings (sprinkled with some chewy wilson dampeners) and a bottle of red gatorade.
    tu vas m'en dire des nouvelles ! ;)

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