Beware selling to chris osterberg (chrisofoto@yahoo.com)

Discussion in 'References' started by pavo26, Mar 28, 2006.

  1. pavo26

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    I agreed to sell him two racquets, which he agreed to buy. I didn't hear from him in a little while, as he told me he was out of the country. I then emailed him to see when I would be getting his payment and he then tells me to sell them to other people, after we had agreed upon a more than fair deal. In the meantime, I told three other buyers that the racquets had been sold. BEWARE!!! I noticed as I posted this that he had other negative comments.
     
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  2. vkartikv

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    Can you tell me when this was? I sent him pictures of three different racquets of mine but haven't heard from him in 2 days. I have had quite a few no-shows from him in the past but thought he had turned a new leaf after he had received a few +ve comments lately.
     
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  3. Catalin13

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    I agree

    I had a pro frame that he wanted, we made our "deal" and after I said that the racquet has been sold to so many possible buyers, our "buyer" Chris, with his ASAP....tells me that he doesn't want to buy the racquet!
    Think twice before "selling" to Chris Osterberg!!!
     
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  4. thirdandlong15

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    Thats weird I sold two prince sticks to him with absolutely no problems at all. He was very hands on through the whole process. He did let me know he was on business in Europe too.
     
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  5. pavo26

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    This just happened today, 3-28-06. I have the email to prove our conversations! BEWARE!!!
     
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  6. vkartikv

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    If you search old references, you will see nothing but complaints against him from sellers, myself included in that list. The past few weeks it seemed like he had accrued a few +ve comments but one must use caution.
     
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  7. frekcles

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    It's not that he doesn't pay for the racquets. I'm sure he does. The problem is sometimes he doesn't follow thru on the deal he makes. I've noticed that he inquires on several ads here. Not really certain if he finalizes the deals on even half of them. I learned the hard way.
     
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  8. Richie Rich

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    I sent him pics "ASAP" at his request as he was "ready to buy the racquets immediately". Then nothing. I emailed him and he says "oh ya, no longer interested." He's not a rip off artist but sure makes frustrating to deal with.

    None of us are perfect here so lets cut him a little slack. What he is doing is not really the end of the world. I'm sure most of us have done the same thing too.
     
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  9. rlbjr

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    If dealing with him, just don't regard the rackets as sold till you see the money.
    If someone else gets the payment in first, they get the rackets.
     
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  10. swedechris

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    come on guys..!! dont cry wolf..

    i am sorry guys if i have been too entusiastic in my approach . ..


    i never ever ripped anyone off though and i can easily show a great number of sales i have done taht have been working out just fine. ..!!! :)


    i will not accept to be blamed just because sales have not gone thur .. in the marketplace new offers show up all the tiem and sometimeĀ“s for me and sometims for the seller too. .. thats part of the princilpal of a free market i guess..

    but i dont let my disappointment for an occasional setback lead me to write a thread and put down that seler .. thats is below my standards and i would hope others too and i think it defeats the purpose. i think it is only when someone a seller or a buyer actual really does rip off in either not sendinga racket payed for or if a buyer receives a racket unpayed for.. then ok write a thread and post a warning , by all means..!
    never did and never will do that i am not in that category at all.
    best/c
     
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  11. SteveI

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    Hi All,

    I have done a few deals with Chris and all went well. Chris has made many contacts with me regarding the purchase of frames. At times he does contact you ask for a pic and a price and then not follow up right away. He has also asked me it sell him frames at a price.. that I just could not do. I just explained that to him and he was ok with that..and it did not stop him from contacting me again for other frames. If Chris does not get back to me right away.. I just field other offers and sell the frame to the 1st serious buyer. Not that I do not think Chris is serious.. I just know that he is looking to get the best deal he can. Of course.. I know how Chris operates. If you are dealing with Chris for the 1st time and you lose a deal waiting for Chris.. I can understand how one might be upset. There are others on this board, that when they contact you regarding purchase of a frame, you know they are going to buy.. and the money order.. PayPal.. check whatever is on the way ASAP. Chris feels that as a buyer that it is his "right" to shop.. and I can respect that..but he also knows when he writes you back a week later the frame.. might be gone. Sooooo when dealing with Chris.. keep this in mind. I hope this helps. Just my experience with Chris.. plain and simple. Not saying who I think is right or wrong.. just the facts Man!

    Regards,
    Steve
     
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  12. swedechris

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    :)

    thansk steve for that inlay .. there is 2 sides to this coin so to speak...

    i look for deals and buy when i feel i have found what i am looking for at a fair price after some shopping around.... i miss out also due to that i.e. the rackets get sold if i dont buy directly and shop around .. so i also sometimes miss out ..
    best// c
     
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  13. sunmin77

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    Swedechris!

    I think you are missing the point here. Nobody is arguing that you have ripped them off. The problem the posters are having with you is that due to the fact you sound very enthusiastic and ready to buy, they will put other potential deals on hold, just for you. Thus, I believe that it is more than fair if you contact the potential seller within a day or two after you have expressed your interest, to let them know one way or another.
    I, for one, will ignore all of your requests to send you pictures ASAP. To me, it just seems like a waste of time to deal with you, when I could sell my racquets to several others in the time that you get back to me.
    I don't think that there is anything wrong with seeking the best deal, as that is what we are all in search of. However, telling someone that you are ready to buy, or even that you will buy the racquet, and then not contacting him/her for an extended period of time, makes you, at least in my view, a waste of time.
    Once again, nobody is accusing you of ripping them off but you have been a major pain in the ass for lots of people here on the boards.
    Just to give you some of your own medicine, the next time you list racquets, I will tell you that I am interested in every one of them and ready to buy ASAP and then I will not e-mail you back. We'll see how that makes you feel.

    Sorry if this post sounds a little bitter. However, I just think that wasting someone's valuable time just so one can save $5 or $10 somewhere else seems like a low move to me.
     
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  14. J D

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    Swedechris, just a suggestion here, but perhaps you need to pick your words more carefully when dealing with people. When you say, "I am ready to buy," you may be thinking, "When I find the right deal." However, the seller may be thinking, "He's buying my frames right now." You may say, "I want to buy your frames," thinking, "I would like to buy but I may not," while the seller is hearing, "He's going to buy my frames."

    I hope we can all agree that telling someone that you are definitely going to buy their frame(s) and not doing so is wrong (Chris, I could not tell from your posts that you thought this way). An agreement to buy, even on the internet, is a legally binding contract. Not sending money after agreeing to buy is not only morally but legally wrong, even if no one was materially "ripped off."
     
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  15. sunmin77

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    Well put, JD.
    I don't think our friend Swedechris has quite grasped the concept of the words: "I am going to buy".
    Maybe next time you(swedechris) are not quite sure about buying a racquet, you should say that you will think about if for a week or two and that the seller should feel free to sell the frame to someone else who might come along. That way, there is no confusion.
     
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  16. skraggle

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    BTW all, he's now posting under the name "TennisCrazyDude"...
     
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  17. diehard6.0

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    I should have read this thread. Swedechris offered a little discount for two racquets I listed and we accepted his offer. He said he is out of the country and will ask his friend to make a payment. After that email, he totally disappeared. Is this guy a pilot or travel-maniac? He seems on trip for the vast majority of lifetime.
     
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  18. frekcles

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    He is out of the country. He has someone do the buying for him on this side of the pond. The seller will ship to his buyer and in turn the buyer will ship to Chris. At least that's how I understand his transactions.

    For more info check out the references section for posts by myself and vkartikv.
     
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  19. In D Zone

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    swedechris - STRIKES AGAIN!

    UPDATED: Aug 09, 2007
    Recanting my claim - giving SWEDECHRIS another chance!
     
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  20. In D Zone

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    swedechris is BAD BAD news! chris osterberg (chrisofoto@yahoo.com)

    UPDATED: Aug 09, 2007
    Recanting my claim - giving SWEDECHRIS another chance!

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    This is the second transaction he did with me - negotiate and agreed on the price, shipping and payment.

    The guy then just disappear!
     
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  21. bruno hau

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    Is swedechris (Chris Osterberg) in Sweden?

    International buyers tend to flake more, especially when you tell them the shipping is in the $30-$35 range! Yip, this person has done the same thing to me...asking me for pics and saying he's going to buy and then disappearing.

    From experience, cash is king and first come first serve. So when I sell something, whoever pays first gets it. I don't care if I promise the 1st potential buyer I'll hold it for them. If the 2nd buyer pays first, then the 2nd buyer gets it. That way, I don't care if the 1st buyer flakes or not (many times they do flake).
     
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  22. Pro_Tour_630

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    He flaked on me, I gave him a spanking and opened up a can of whoop *** on him
     
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  23. Steve Huff

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    It wouldn't bother me if he wrote and said, "I'm interested in your such-and-such rackets. Will you take $xxx for them?" But, if he says, "I'll buy them. Where can I send the money?", he's made a binding contract--legally and morally. If you have the emails, all you have to do is take him to small claims.
     
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  24. czech09

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    Haha good luck with that. It's binding legally yes, however realistically it's not going to happen. You want to waste more of your time with a simple racquet sale? He's an international buyer how are you going to solve this with small claims? Are you going to take the time to travel to his country and place a claim there? This doesn't make any logical sense unless you're selling some items on here for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Either way the best way to get around this is as someone mentioned, either not to hold anything for anyone or hold it for short periods of time. Never consider anything sold until you actually have the $.
     
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  25. In D Zone

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    SWEDECHRIS stepped up to the plate and offered his apologies!


    Here is my message to him:
    You need to explain your situation up front in the first place rather than hit me up with emails, made and accepted offers without explaining your situation. If you are oversea, travelling or have limited email access - you need to mention it and not wait. It's causes confusion and mistrust - internet trade is consumated with trust, integrity and communication. There is no person to person meeting here, therefore your word is weighted like gold!

    I have traded and sold racquets and other items between Europe and Asia and have not had any issue .... as long as you communicate. I normally am very flexilbe and will try to work with you.

    Apology accepted! I'll try to undo the messages in TW and give you another break!
    Hope you'll do betta the next go around ......

    and 'Thanks' for stepping up to the plate!
     
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  26. swedechris

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    guys lets not make smoke from nothing

    thanks ..
    best c
     
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