Big possibility of Nadal being seeded no.5 for Roland Garros

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  1. ductrung3993

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    Nadal drops out of AO

    => Ferrer moves up with a gap of 1015 pts.

    Up till RG, here are what they have to defend:

    Ferrer:

    AO 360 + IW 45 + Miami 180 + Rome 360 + Madrid 180 + Acalpulco 500 + Barcelona 300 = 2225

    Nadal: IW 360 + Miami 360 + MC 1000 + Madrid 90+ Rome 1000 + Barcelona 500 = 3410



    So to sum up, Nadal is 1000 point behind (after AO point drops) and ~ 1200 more points to defend => a total of 2200 points to cover

    ....which I dont see as a very likely, and maybe very interesting too. Also, it marks the first time since 2005 Nadal is not seeded 1 or 2 at the clay slam.
     
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  2. Gonzo_style

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    This is the answer to your thread
     
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  3. Ico

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    No it's not. Nadal has little chance of making it back to the top 4 before RG.
     
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    I think you're wrong, OP didn't include two important facts, Nadal will play in Acapulco, and as I said, Madrid.
     
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  5. 3fees

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    No doubt with points to defend getting dropped there is going to be an impact, how he is going to deal with this he has not said yet.
     
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    Nadal could be seeded as a qualie and it wouldn't matter. As long as he just *enters* (doesn't wtihdraw) he could probably beat everyone even if he faced top seeds early on. But being seeded 5th would really be no issue at all. Rafa on clay is like Kobe Bryant playing against high schoolers.
     
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  7. veroniquem

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    well said. Rafa's seeding doesn't matter one bit on red clay.
     
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  8. smoledman

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    But I wouldn't be shocked if Nadal doesn't win Monte Carlo/Barcelona/Rome in 2013.
     
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  9. vandre

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    this. where rafa is seeded at rg matters more to the other seeds than it does him.
     
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    It is true that he could definitely be seeded 5 or lower, but it's not going to matter. We're talking about someone that's only ever lost once at this tournament.
     
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    all that would change is we'd have to wade through more "rafa is doping, no?" threads around here.
     
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  12. NadalAgassi

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    if Nadal even plays Roland Garros (I am coming to terms with the idea he might well already be retired), there is no way in hell he is seeded outside the top 4, no matter where he is ranked. I would be willing to bet money on that. They even seeded Venus Williams, Venus clay court guru Williams at #4 when she was ranked much lower than that in 2004, out of respect for her past record. She had even done poorly at the previous years RG and doesnt even have a good RG record, it was a respect for her overall stature in the game I guess.

    Nadal as the all time greatest RG Champion would not be seeded below David Ferrer. He would be at minimum seeded #4. I would not even be surprised in the least if they seed him #3 over Murray given Murray's modest past record at RG, if Murray is still only ranked #3 by then.
     
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  13. qindarka

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    I wouldn't be too sure. How often do the seedings differ from the rankings nowadays?
     
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    Well.. I am looking forward to the Djokovic-Nadal quarterfinal! :)
     
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    Only in Wimby they dont seed according to the ranking i think
     
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    Gonna be interesting. My guess is if he's in it, he'll win it. He obviously isn't willing to enter events anymore while dealing with lingering injures and illness. Seems like he's gonna do what Borg wanted to do after the 1981 US Open, play when he feels like it.
     
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    Although I'm not rooting for Nadal in RG, it would be pretty awesome if he wins it again, while just returning from this injury. Especially if he's seeded 5th or below. It would be a real statement: "You can seed me 5th, 6th, or 20th and I don't care how long I haven't played tennis, I will always win this tournament. I own it."
     
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    Nadal being #5 is probably more dangerous for everyone else than himself. It could cost Djokovic over 800 points, and Federer/Ferrer over 300.
     
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    RG Organziers should seed Nadal 4 regardless of rank.....it too much damage to the other 3.
     
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  20. merwy

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    I know Nadal is the "clay king" but you think he wouldn't even be bothered in the slightest by having to possibly play Murray, Federer and Djokovic back to back? I don't care if he's the best on clay, nobody can be guaranteed of victory when playing against the top 3 in consecutive rounds.

    Not to mention he might not be coming back at full strength.
     
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  21. DMan

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    Nadal won't be in the top 8 seeds at RG
     
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  22. Feather

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    Exactly!

    The guy who draws Nadal in QF is gonna lose points.
     
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  23. absurdo

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    some people on this boards talk as the guy will never lose again at roland garros. i only believe that if he quits tennis and never play again. because if his career is not over (i hope not) and he keeps playing there for a few more years, YES he is going to lose. it might not be this year, but at some point it is going to happen. having that in mind, i think 2013 is a good year for it to happen, and i think nadal does not want to play the top 3 back to back to back. djokovic alone could beat him, so ...
     
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  24. veroniquem

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    Djoko hasn't proved yet that he could beat Rafa at RG. Jury is still out on that one.
     
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  25. romeo8880

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    Can't wait to bet a large amount of money on Nadal to win the French Open. His odds will be nice and juicy this year.
     
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