Biggest Pet Peeve in Tennis?

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  1. CMSlam

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    When I serve I only use one ball and do not keep another ball in my pocket. It is on purpose and is not a tactic to stall or harass my opponent.

    The reason I do this is I tend to rush my second serve if I don't. If I take the time to go retrieve a ball from the fence or the net, I actually come back to the line with a "fresh" mindset. It basically allows me to refocus.

    That being said... I do not stall with this tactic. On my serve I am pretty meticulous about making sure the rest of the balls are next to the backstop/fence as close to me as possible.

    Get the ball. Step right up to the line. Glance to make sure opponent is ready. 3-bounce then toss and serve.

    It's just easier for me to refocus by taking a 5 second trip than to stand in the same spot in the batter's box.

    And since I am nowhere near taking long enough for a time violation, I haven't had a single complaint.
     
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  2. Cindysphinx

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    Boy, we would have a hard time rallying! :)

    If we are rallying and I run up to the net or to the side fence, I will pick up whatever balls are near me, even if you have three in your pocket. I'm right there, why not?

    If we are rallying and you need to clear a ball, I will also clear a ball if I can do so in the time it will take you to clear one. This seems to annoy my practice partner no end.

    I may stop rallying when you have three in your pockets. I cannot always clearly discern what you have in your pockets. I will know if you will hurry up and pull one out and feed it.

    I do sometimes feed a ball before my practice partner is ready. What I can't figure is why she isn't ready. Do we need to do all of the self-flagellation because she missed a shot? How am I supposed to know you're not ready because you need to fix your wedgie?
     
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  3. Cindysphinx

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the rule said the server had to serve the second serve "promptly."

    I think having my opponent step up to serve without a second ball in her pocket would drive me insane. I mean, say your serve goes long and I let it go to the fence behind me. You don't have a ball. You mean I have to send a ball to you so you can hit your second serve?

    Man, that is a huge cumulative dilly-dally, and I think it would cause a lot of people to freak completely out.
     
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  4. hard2explain

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    It's good that you're considerate, it's the ones who take a long time between their first and second serves that annoys me,
    also people running to collect a ball and hit it back to my side of the court between my 1st and 2nd serve.

    Less specifically and probably not a pet peeve, is the huge amount of variables surrounding the technology;
    ball types, surfaces, 100s of strings at indiscriminate tensions, HYBRIDS ffs, head sizes, LEAD TAPE, beam thicknesses, stiffnesses to name a few,
    all playing on your mind after a loss etc.
     
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  5. CMSlam

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    Not at all. If I serve long, I go grab another ball from behind me.
    Its not the same as have a ball/ not have a ball.
    It's have a ball in my pocket, or have it five steps away sitting on the ground.

    What if I hit the net on that serve and it stays on my side. Usually the ball rests in the middle of my court when this happens? If that happens, I usually clear my side by getting that one and using it again. Same fives steps. So the definition of "promptly" in the rules would have to incorporate that situation.

    And the cumulative dilly-dally works both ways. I play punctual on everything. So I guess my opponent doesn't feel like I'm trying to slow down the tempo. If I had to say anything, I almost always am ready before my opponents.

    And I would have to say that if an opponent really complained about it I would probably shrug and pocket the second ball. I just haven't had a single complaint yet.
     
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    Sorry for the misuse of proper punctuation. Question mark should be after the "it stays on my side?" not the "when this happens."
     
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  7. g4driver

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    ***** GroupMe app for iPhone ******

    Works great for our team. Guys can mute or get all messages via Push vs SMS.

    Our team uses it to check availability for tennis, bars, concerts and for about half the team, yes strip clubs. No wives, no girlfriends, and no one knows about it. Like FightClub, dont talk about it just use it.

    Oh, a pet peeve, people who leave their trash on the court and benches. Use the trash can folks.
     
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  8. OrangePower

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    ^^^^^^
    Pet peeve: People who assume that everyone else has an iPhone :shock:
     
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  9. r2473

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    This is my other major pet peeve.

    I usually spend the first few minutes picking up old balls someone "generously" left on the court, ball cans, always pick up several ball can metal lids, and normally several drink bottles and snack wrappers.

    I often "secretly" pick up my partners trash too.

    I'm really not annoyed by this anymore. It's just part of my routine. It only takes a minute or so and it's worth it to me to play on a trash free court instead of having it blow around while I'm playing.
     
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  10. tennis-player

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    my biggest pet peeve is related to a local ladder. Both players suppose to bring unopened can of balls and split the cost of court reservation (if played at busy times and reservation is a must); play with one can of balls, and winner takes home the other. I hate when people act "dumb" after they loose the match, and instead of running to club house to get a can of balls (because they "forgot" to bring), they just say "well, i guess i owe you a can of balls"....
     
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    I hate that too...
     
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  12. r2473

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    I'm always amazed at people that "refuse" (forget) to bring new balls, but have several used balls that are "good enough".

    We are playing on public courts (free) and you can't pay a lousy $2 for a can of balls?

    I wonder if these guys go to the golf course and steal range balls to play with or maybe they walk around in the trees on the course for a while until they find 2 or 3 balls to play with.
     
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  13. g4driver

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    OrangePower,

    I should have typed "GroupMe App for Androids and IPhones" GroupMe works on Android too. But the USTA doesn't have an android app yet according to the android guys on our team.

    More importantly, not even one comment about strip clubs and the use of the app from a handful of our married guys to coordinate their get togethers . ;) I cracked up when I learned the true meaning of this app.

    Hey, can you edit my post? ;)

    - Typed on my iPhone via Tapatalk App
     
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  14. sureshs

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    My biggest pet peeve is FF.

    Last week, I tried to take photos on my cell phone camera to show to the doubles players how they FFed half the time, but by the time I clicked, it was too late to catch it. Should I try recording in video mode?
     
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  15. jdubbs

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    Really? I don't find stepping slightly over the time to be that big of a difference on how hard a serve is. Technically a fault, but really not a big deal. Plus, you can never call it, so you mine as well forget about it.
     
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  16. kaleidoskope

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    I got a few...

    • People that steal on line calls. The thing is, I made it a habit to NEVER question the opponents' call. So when they steal, I'm thinking like "seriously? This is how you want to win this FRIENDLY match?"
    • People that take the game so seriously, you'd think they're playing center court Roland Garros semifinals... when in reality we're playing in that suburban stupid looking white sort of male person's conservative kind of middle-of-the-road tennis club...
    • Time wasters. I mean life seems to be too long for them...there's no other explanation...
    • Mini tennis warm up. Can't rationalize it. I'm a grown man. I don't have to eat soup or my veggies!
    • Moonballers. If you are one...don't. Just don't.

    On the other hand I always:
    • Call a beautiful point when I see one
    • Apologize on my lucky shot winners (net cords, shanks , etc), but don't mind if the guy on the other side doesn't...
     
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  17. OrangePower

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    Not to worry, I dislike all smart phones - Andoid also. Can't ever get any peace and quiet anymore. I have guys on my team that refuse to get smartphones and I envy them.

    And re strip clubs; I live in CA... so nothing to get excited about, plus strip clubs are so, like, 90's!
     
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  18. OrangePower

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    For the several people that have listed mini tennis warm up as a pet peeve: wait until you get old and/or have arm problems. If I start hitting full strokes without warming my arm up with some mini tennis first, I pay for it later. Plus, mini tennis is actually a decent volley drill if done properly.
     
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  19. cll30

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    Yeah, I hate that too.
     
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  20. g4driver

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    Flight Track Pro priceless as a commuting pilot with smartphone. I had a dumb phone for years. That app saves me a lot of work looking up gates and flights. It is priceless to me for my profession.

    And the strip clubs are for the older married guys. I have no need for them, but it cracks me up watching guys scheduling to meet there on GroupMe.
     
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  21. sureshs

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    It is not a big difference in power, but it is a big difference in skill. Standing close to the line and shifting your feet but not stepping on the line is a fine skill. Those who don't have the skill should be held accountable for it and should lose the point.

    Just like hitting on the net tape is only 1 inch from clearing it, but it loses the point.
     
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  22. jdubbs

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    But...have you ever called a foot fault on an opponent? If you can't, then I wouldnt worry about it, even if its technically wrong.
     
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    I also don't mind foot faulters. I don't, played in enough tourneys to know, and my serve constantly solicits the peanut gallery to watch my feet when I serve.
    Lots have weak serves, and terrible form.
    Some, like a 4.5 tourney tough friend of mine at 6'4" and 225 lbs., pounds a seemingly 130 mph serve for his first semi flat, usually misses, then spins in a pretty tough top/slice/twist for a second.
    He totally faults his second if you start to call footfault, so rather than be petty, I'll take his footfaults so I can play against a "better" player. It's practice, he's a nice guy, and he knows his real rating from playing lots of tourneys....and getting called for footfaults in most.
     
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  24. t135

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    Playing lower rated players with weaker games who, when they realize you are really good; start playing out of their minds. And you have to play top 20 ATP tour style tennis to beat them. And if you lose mental focus for five minutes you wind up in a hole.

    I hate that.
     
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  25. jakemcclain32

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    Two words....HELL NO!

    Netcords are part of the game, and they are the rules. I'm not apologizing for getting one, and I get on my opponents for apologizing to me. I laugh at them either way. It's pure luck, and it goes either way.
     
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  26. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    ohh, guilty of #1

    actually, pretty much every open player does this, so I guess it would never occur to me that someone might start from a full court.
     
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    Things must be really different in Oz, I've played in hundreds of tournaments and never warmed up with both players starting at net. Never seen pros warm-up at net either. It would be funny to see Fed and Nadal warming up playing mini-tennis. I thought women did it so they could catch-up on the latest gossip without everyone nearby hearing them.
     
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  28. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    yeah, but they have been out on the practice court for an hour before their match, haven't they?

    as for whoever said it is a good volley drill, wtf? they should be quite solid groundstrokes that land well inside the service line...
     
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  29. chatt_town

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    Well you'd hate playing me. I don't apologize for hitting the net. I think it's bs to do so. If you are really sorry for hitting the net than lets replay the point or better yet...give me the point. :) By the same token..I don't give the Leyton Hewitt "come onnnnnn" while doing the lawn mower either after a net cord.....:)

    My pet peeve are people that don't know how to warm up. coming out hitting winners & ****. I let the balls go to the fence a couple of times before telling them...I'd just assume warm up with someone else and then when we are both warm, we can begin play. lol

    QUOTE=SunYiXian;6503023]Mine would definitely be when my opponent hits a netcord winner and doesn't apologize. I know that 99% of the time, the apology isn't sincere but I just want to see the apology. Tennis is a gentleman's sport after all. Oh and if you celebrate a netcord winner, **** you.[/QUOTE]
     
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  30. Marcus2137

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    Actually that's not what I meant. It also bugs me when someone rushes the net, and then steps over 3 balls while walking back to the baseline after the point.

    What I mean is I have some partners who stand on the baseline, feed all of their balls to me (while I have pocketfuls), then as soon as they are out, they run from the baseline to the fence, grab one ball and leave 2 right next to it, run back and feed that ball to me. The whole time I'm standing on the baseline, pockets full of balls, holding a ball in my hand, posed to feed.

    And after they feed the one ball to me and we play it out, they run back to the fence again, pick up one more (leaving others), and return to the baseline to feed it; and the whole time I'm holding a ball in front of me, ready to drop it and feed it.

    And then, when everyone is out of balls, this same person stands there and watches me go around and pick up balls without picking up any until we start to rally again and they start running around picking up one at a time.

    I typically try to be a mirror when it comes to picking up balls. When my partner walks to pick up a ball, so do I. When they are back on the baseline and ready, I will be also. Seems to be the most efficient way.
     
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  31. chatt_town

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    Another 1 of mine are ignorant @$$ people that sit on the sidelines and think balls that are outside the line are in and give their teammates the impression that you just f***** them. I would think people that played tennis for as long as some of these people have would know that you can't look from the sideline see a ball in our out going down the line because of the angle. I almost walked off a championship match once because an ignorant referee tried to correct me on a ball and she was standing outside the fence looking up onto the court. I had to stop the match...go and sit the ball outside the line a good inch and I asked her was the ball in or out...she said in....then when she walked onto the court she could clearly see the ball was a good inch off the line. People you can't call the lines from that angle. If you could they'd have line judges sitting over where the ball kids stand.....sheesh.


     
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  32. Marcus2137

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    I confess about this one. I always throw trash away and pick up others, but I DO leave old balls on the court. The reason is that when I was a kid and would go to the courts and even all the way up to college, I did have money to buy new balls, so I would go to the courts and try to pick up old balls that people left/forgot there and play with those. It wasn't ideal but better than nothing.

    Just a few months ago I was using the hitting wall at a local high school on the weekend and some kids showed up with a couple of rackets and nothing else. They wondered around looking for balls for a while and didn't find any, so in the end I just gave them a few of mine. Just like when I was a kid, what would happen if I wasn't there to give them balls and they didn't find any? They'd probably just go home without playing. So, I don't mind leaving a few old balls around in case kids want to come play. If the ball is completely bad or broken I'll just throw it away.
     
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  33. OrangePower

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    After hitting short groundstrokes we switch to hitting volleys and half volleys from halfway between the service line and the baseline.
     
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    There's a guy in my 3.5 league who feels the obligation to point out whenever I am not playing my best. He'll say things like: "Man you aren't hitting very well today" or "I'm really glad you aren't hitting your serves".

    The thing is, I don't think that he means to be a *****. It's just kind of the way he is, I guess.

    Other than that, the only thing that bugs me is when people repeatedly make bad calls. Everyone makes a bad call here and there, after three or four I tend to get a little testy.
     
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  35. corbind

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    For those complaining about having to do mini tennis warm up...I'd like to know if you are a baseline or net player. If you're a baseline-basher I can see how it's a waste of time. If you're a net player it's necessary to warm up with mini tennis.
     
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    Necessary? Seriously?
     
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  37. dizzlmcwizzl

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    I like mini tennis ... but my biggest pet peeves is when my opponent just does not understand the concept of warming up. If you dont want to do mini tennis ... fine, just tell me.

    But people can be bad warm up players in many ways unrelated to their ability.
     
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  38. Cindysphinx

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    I don't mind old balls on the court. In fact, I often take them for my hopper.

    What I don't get is people leaving cans and sharp lids on the court. Good lord.

    What I also don't get is the debris on high school courts. I would think the coaches would bring a few garbage bags and get the kids to clean up the courts before they practice. I would think the coaches and kids would have too much pride in their schools to allow them to look like that.
     
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  39. catfish

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    Garbage on and around the courts is a pet peeve for me too. I play at a community association which does not have any full time staff. Members are expected to clean up after themselves. Yet many players leave empty beer bottles, cigarette butts, water bottles, used overgips, and ball cans and tops all over the place.
     
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  40. jk175d

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    I'm more of a baseline player but I need a mini tennis warm up to loosen up my wrist. I'll be ok if I just start from the baseline, but I definately warm up better if I can get in a few minutes of mini tennis first.
     
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  41. Marcus2137

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    Agreed. I found my consistency has improved since I started warming up with mini tennis.

    I do play sometimes with a guy wants to play mini tennis for 30 minutes which seems way to much, but 10-15 minutes is about right for me.

    One of my playing partners and I make mini tennis an actual game and we get really into it. You can't just bash the ball and over power the opponent, so it takes a lot of control and strategy to win a point. A mini-approach shot right in the corner that lets me mini-rush the net and finish it off with a mini-volley... no joke, it's a lot of fun; and really has improved my hitting if I do it for 10 minutes first before backing up and playing full-court.
     
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  42. Marcus2137

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    Agreed. I've always been a person to pick up trash, but living overseas the last few years has really opened my eyes even more. The Asian country I live in is pretty polluted, even here in the capital, and it sucks living in a place with trash around all the time.

    The way I see it now is when I see the local people dropping trash as they walk down the sidewalk or throwing it out of their car is: that person must really not like their own country. At this point, I have come to believe that people who just throw trash on the ground must hate the country they live in, otherwise they wouldn't want to pollute it, make it look and smell like crap, and knowingly hurt the environment.


    Pet Peeve of the day:

    People smoking on the court next to me during their break/changeover, especially on indoor courts. I'm trying to exercise and be healthy, so breathing their smoke doesn't make me too happy.

    And despite it being illegal and against the court rules, for some reason the court still provides ashtrays on the tables at each court.
     
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    Thought of another one: I dislike it when a frustrated opponent hits a hard shot across after the point is over. I know you're frustrated, but you hit me with a ball when my back is turned and I'm walking back to the baseline, or worse yet, when I'm at the net facing you and you take another hard swing at the shot you just netted and I'm going to be really upset.
     
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  44. kaleidoskope

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    Someone may have mentioned this one...

    Foot faults! I once played a guy that server 2 or 3 feet IN the court. And he was a good server too. I asked him if he wanted to play mini-tennis instead but I think he did not get my sarcasm...
     
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    Okay Spot, let me clarify. I was typing on an iPod 5 minutes before falling asleep so I did not search for the most appropriate word and did not feel like typing much on a tiny keyboard. I'm on a computer now so I can at least type on a real keyboard. I don't think mini tennis is NECESSARY if:

    • Both opponents are baseliners so they'll spend almost no time at the net the entire match
    • Both opponents are in their teens or twenties since their bodies just don't need much prep time
    • If you're just screwing around hitting with a buddy you just hit whatever

    My estimate of those who do not want to do any mini tennis at any time before a match are the ones who hate the net and don't spend much time there. Therefore it's a waste of their time. Further, a player who has serious weaknesses with volleys, half-volleys, or control on short balls will be advertising their disadvantage while playing mini tennis. My take on it is this is, if a guy does not want to hit any mini tennis before a match, they are either great or suck at it but more commonly the latter. Excepting the scenarios above:
    • Necessary to do mini tennis as a warm up? No.
    • Necessary to do it at all before play (either at first or after casual baseline hitting)? Absolutely.

    Outside of serve and return of serve, I'd estimate 80%+ of my play is between the service line and the net. So it would be ridiculous for me to not play mini tennis before a match. On the converse, others spend almost no time at the net so they generally just want to work baseline balls to warm up and that makes sense.
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  46. AR15

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    Last night reminded me of my biggest peeve:

    Players who strike the ball BEFORE it comes over to their side of the net. It's their call, and they won't admit they did it.
     
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    I have a few pet peeves but one that hasn't been mentioned yet is people calling the ball out before it hits the ground. Even if the ball winds up being clearly in, the vast majority will not reverse their calls. I first noticed this practice watching other peoples' matches & was astonished because it is more common than I would have thought.
     
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    People that try to hit winners during warm ups. Seriously?!?!
     
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  49. sureshs

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    No, I have never called a FF as I cannot confidently judge them from the other side. But I am working in a low-key activist fashion for social change by changing one mind (or foot) at a time.

    Recently, a dad noticed what I was doing trying to video adult doubles players, and asked me to find out if his daughter FFed. She was doing it half the time on both serves, and both dad and girl were extremely surprised to learn that.
     
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    Seen a couple of them, and it only leads to arguments if you challenge them. They stand really close to the net and hit the ball with the racket over the net, and think that they have made a great poach.

    This one is particularly irritating because you see the guy glued to the net, and hit the ball away from him on either side, and then he cheats
     

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