Biggest Tool in Tennis

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  1. johnnymacfan

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    I'm down to 3...Would love to get some other perspectives:

    1 - James Blake. Please formally retire. He's becoming the Brett Favre of tennis - only less successful. Brett has filed his paperwork with

    2 - Darren Cahill. Just shut up already. He can be insightful, but talks way too much and often goes off on tangents that he knows nothing about. The sad part is, Chris Fowler (who's great for college football) goes right along with him and they both end up sounding like idiots.

    3 - Brad Gilbert. I think he wins the Tool Award hands down. What an annoying little jerk. Hey Brad: Enough with the Metallica cap, butchering players names, and snappy lingo that you picked up from your 12 year old. Maybe the biggest d-bag in ANY sport right now.

    Thoughts?
     
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  2. Blinkism

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    did anyone catch Cliff Drysdale call P-Mac on his B.S. during the Querrey match?

    Cliff Drysdale is so thoroughly awesome and P-Mac is just :lol:

    Also, Mary Carillo is a big tool.
     
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  3. CityTennis22

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    Pam Shriver beats them all. I can't stand her.
     
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  4. forzamilan90

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    Fowler, Cahill, and Drysdale are alright as commentators. Gilbert is a tool though.
     
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    On court? Roddick. Though he is funny off court.

    Mardy Fish is a tool as well. Always whining and whinging.
     
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  6. johnnymacfan

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    Agree 100% on P-Mac. I'm OK with Carrillo and Pam Shriver, but I will say that after watching the Almagro/Andreev match on DirecTV last night, Barry McKay has to be one of the most atrocious announcers of all time.

    As for players, Haas was/is a notoriously mean guy and Roddick is a bit of a tool as well in terms of arrogance and meanness.
     
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  7. namelessone

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    Biggest tool in tennis?

    Stephanek's, judging by the ladies reactions.
     
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  8. johnnymacfan

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    If you're going that route (and I wish you wouldn't), I'd say Monfils has everyone beat. Stepanek is pretty amazing with the ladies he pulls though, especially given that grill he's sporting.
     
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  9. fhdowntheline

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    For a minute, I thought the Title read as "Biggest Fool" in Tennis:mrgreen:
     
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  10. slice bh compliment

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    I was thinking tool, but in a different way.
    1] Tool used to mean someone who is being used but does not know it...or maybe has come to know he's being used, but lets it slide. At least that's my understanding of tool.

    2] I was also thinking tool, like weapon...like a great serve/backhand/forehand/volley in the arsenal.

    In this thread, what is a tool? Just a jerk or a misfit or a yutz?
     
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  11. Andres

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    The greatest tool in tennis is the racquet, obviously.
     
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  12. Clay lover

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    tool means more like fool in slang...so i say...LA MONF!
     
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  13. dandelion_smiley

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    agree about Gilbert, just get him out of here
     
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  14. SLD76

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    1. johnny mac

    2. mary carillo

    3. brad gilbert.

    4. entire espn crew

    5. special shout out to bud collins

    6. jim courier( but only for his courtside interviews, not his commentary)

    7. patrick mcenroe. I love how a guy who never won much of note is giving strategy advice.
     
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  15. Gtech

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    Biggest tool, easily, Brad Gilbert. His constant hallucinations about his time with Agassi. The whole "Killer this, Killer that", what are these guys? 12 yrs old? Drop the "Killer Cahill" BS.
    2nd biggest - Roddick, what an immature guy. His tirades against line judges in the past 2 yrs really showed what a POS guy he really is.
     
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  16. johnnymacfan

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    This is a good list, though I respectfully disagree on Johnny Mac. He can be rough, but the guy is a great commentator (not to speak of his playing career). Patrick McEnroe is deplorable as a commentator, but Gilbert still takes the cake.
     
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  17. SLD76

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    Eh...its hard for me to completely divorce Jmac's off court antics from his commentary.

    I mean FFS, I was watching world team tennis on my cable provider, and he flipped out over a line call in a doubles match, and then basically quit the match, leaving his partner hanging. World Team Tennis, FFS!

    If that isnt toolage of the highest degree, I dont know what is.
     
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    Chris Fowlmouth is the GOAT of tennis tools/fools.
     
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  19. Sentinel

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    what's wrong with Blake ? have i missed something ?
     
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    Nothing. People are just kicking a man while he is already down.

    And here is the number 1 tool in tennis:

    [​IMG]
     
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  21. Totai

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    The biigest tool is the racquet. You can argue that a tennis bag is a bigger tool, but I see it more as an accessory than a tool
     
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  22. skip1969

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    brad gilbert. forever crashing the party and drinking up all the free beer. complete and utter tool.
     
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  23. IvanYentl

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    I find myself wondering more and more if Fowler plays tennis at all, or if he just spends his extra time painting the town with Herbie.
     
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  24. johnnymacfan

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    Truer words were never spoken.
     
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    You guys have really short memories... or I'm gettin' pretty crusty. How 'bout the ignorant racist, Lleyton Hewitt? Ironically, he tipped his hand a number of years back in a match against the aforementioned James Blake. Pretty sure it was the US Open. I refuse to respect that guy... ever. B-A-D!

    Fowler - got to admit he's been rubbing me the wrong way. In my case, that's rather significant, since I prefer to not sweat the small stuff when I can. He's earned some borderline weenie status with some of his comments and interviewing, though.

    Roddick - I've seen worse. Sometimes I just think he needs to switch to decaf. Then again, you're all welcome to peel my coffee pot from my cold, dead hands!!!

    Gilbert - I think he's just guilty of having a personality. Keep that in mind the next time you see Jim Courier doing commentary. As for BG, I say don't sweat the small stuff. Take him or leave him.
     
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  26. li0scc0

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    Brad Gilbert #1
    Mats Wilander #2
    Luke Jensen #3
     
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  27. li0scc0

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    Kip Winger plays tennis?
     
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    1. Pam Shriver

    2. Pam Shriver

    3. Pam Shriver
     
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    Fedace.


    ...clearly
     
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  30. killer

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    How johnnymacfan can include Darren Cahill in his list of 'tools' is ludicrous. The guy coached Agassi through some pretty impressive seasons, and was a potential coach for Federer, though because of time commitments it didn't germinate into an ongoing relationship. How do you argue against two of the best players EVER in Agassi and Federer? Do you really think they'd be interested in hiring 'tools' to take care of their games? As a commentator, Darren is pretty relaxed and doesn't step out on a limb like Gilbert does. Can't see at all how he should be included in this list.
     
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    1. Tina

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  32. johnnymacfan

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    Is this Darren Cahill defending himself?

    As I said in my original post, Cahill does have his good and insightful moments, but (along Fowler and Gilbert) seems to get worse and worse and worse. The broadcast last night with Tipsarevic/Verdasco was deplorable. Always so quick to blame the racquet, shoes, etc on a player's performance. It's never the PLAYER. It's the new shoes, or its the new racquet, when really if the equipment was the problem, the match would have been over in 3 sets at the ATP level. Verdasco's brain was on another planet until 5-4 in the 3rd set last night. Never once did Cahill broach that subject. And to hear Fowler chime in, given that he's likely never played so much as a set of tennis, just makes me cringe.

    Gilbert's place atop the list of tools is unquestionable.
     
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    So johnnymacfac, you're actually talking about his commentating, not his overall 'being.' Thanks for the clarification. I can agree that there is a certain amount of sensationalizing that goes on in tennis commentary these days, partially funded by Fowler (did anyone catch him at the end of the Federer match egging Cahill to say that, had he lost, it would have reshaped the ENTIRE tennis landscape? Please!) but I think that during the match itself, Cahill does a pretty good job at staying relevant, talking about equipment (which admittedly he won't know everything about) so that all us tennis nuts are getting some answers to post in the 'Gear' section on this forum for debate, and just calling it as he sees it.
    I'm not suggesting for an instant that he hasn't missed the mark in some situations, but to call him a tool is ridiculous. He's not flashy or showy a la Gilbert, nor is he complacent and boring.
    Best, K
     
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  34. johnnymacfan

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    He's a tool. His commentating is a reflection of his personality as a whole in my opinion. A know it all who knows very little (a key trait of a tool), though I do believe that he can offer insightful information from his days riding Agassi's coattails. I'd be interested to hear his thoughts when he's not teamed up with Chris Fowler, as I think they lead each other further down the wrong path, with the help of Brad Gilbert the tennis clown.
     
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    You sure jumped all over that one! "I wish you wouldn't!" Yeah, right. Don't try to convince me that you're not responsible for pulling this thread even further into the gutter.

    However, good call on the Stepanek grill. Did his mother mate with a fish?
     
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    Whenever Roddick is on T V I have to route for the other guy - his on court demeanor is horrid ..
     
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    I was not the originator of that tangent, though I will cop to responding to it. And yes, it does look like his mother mated with a fish. A real ugly fish.
     
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    grigor dimitrov... tries way to hard to be federer and just ca.. get your own game
     
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    kip winger...look him up. hilarious call.
     
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    He's a tool. His commentating is a reflection of his personality as a whole in my opinion. A know it all who knows very little (a key trait of a tool), though I do believe that he can offer insightful information from his days riding Agassi's coattails. I'd be interested to hear his thoughts when he's not teamed up with Chris Fowler, as I think they lead each other further down the wrong path, with the help of Brad Gilbert the tennis clown.

    Well JMF, tennis commentators get the chance to do so based on a few variables: previous tennis success; previous coaching success; and being the general sports commentator for a network. Which category does Cahill fall in to? Yup, a coach with RIDICULOUS levels of success. 'Riding coattails'? Please. Cahill was a player, then a coach for one of the all-time greats, then became a commentator. I think he knows wherof he speaks. I'll agree with you that it would be nice to see him teamed with someone who would just let the game unfold without loading it up and dumbing it down a la Fowler. But he doesn't say boneheaded things on a regular basis, and tries to keep the commentary where it should be.
     
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  43. The_Question

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    All the names have listed are pretty much dead on...but I can't believe nobody ever mentioned Dick Enberg!!
     
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    What I can say about Cahill is that he is a pretty arrogant guy. I mean who has "Killer" as a freaking nickname? Anyone notice that he kept cutting off other commentators and flat-out ignoring comments? You can sense some tension between them. And the comment he made about the WTF not "counting" as a tennis match was probably the most bizarre thing I've ever heard.

    Fowler is just a grade-A lame-O with a .4% knowledge of tennis at best.

    Enberg is a disturbing old man who needs to go away. He *never* uses correct vocabulary for some reason. If I hear him say "delicious" to describe something one more time, I am literally going to throw my remote at the TV.
     
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    I am stunned that i did not inlcude Enberg on this list...The constant butchering of names, and the ever present "terre battue" references in EVERY single tournament (whether on clay or not) has me making sure that I keep a trash can very close to my chair when watching any match that's calling.
     
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    Hey Scientist: I have 'killer' as a nickname, and it was given to me by my coach when i was 14. Hence my online moniker. I'm now 35, but it seems to have stuck. Nothing wrong with it :)
     
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    I hate to name this person, but Bud Collins should stop and retire...the man is old and senile. When asked a question by other commentators, he talks about everything but the topic it was asked...
     
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    Have to disagree with all the brad gilbert hating on here. BG is awesome. I love his enthusiasm, he's so stoked on every matchup and he has great credentials.
     
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