Biking anyone?

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  1. chrischris

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    I love to bike.It helps get me in shape and i do my local environment a favor.
    Aim to buy an Italian racer next summer.
     
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  2. JohnnyCracker

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    you guys are a bunch of wusses
    this is what I do all day everyday
    aerodynamic? what about it?
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    You sound like a white guy now :)

    Im in Berlin now and a LOT of people bike around the city.
     
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    Maybe I"m poor or something, but I've been working on my own bikes since the first one, in 1966. From adjusting derailers to steering bearings to restringing in a new hub, stem replacements, pedal and crank swaps, I've done it all except bottom bracket bearings.
    But, I'd been racing motorcycles since 1965, and you gotta do it all every 5 races or the bike just falls apart. Phil's grease is my friend.
     
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    Haha good to hear from you buddy, I will make you buy a bike and ride with me. Hope you're having fun in Europe.
     
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    Haha I've changed the seat angle since that picture, but you will be happy to know my nuts are doing just fine. Thanks for watching out for them though. :)
     
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    Definitely fun and fulfilling. Yesterday was a bit somber, went to see some Holocaust memorials and Topographies of Horror.

    France and Berlin are def biking cities. With humungous food portions and less activity, no wonder there are a lot of fat Americans.
     
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    Oh snap! Real life Koopa Troopas! ;)
     
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    I got a question for any of you guys who ride bikes.....
    I've got a sprained left ankle, so can't stand up on my left pedal when pushing up hills. The cleats on my SPD's center right at the ball of my little toe, so about normal. If I can move the pedal BACK, I can stand up and grind up hills for a few dozen strokes before sitting back down again.
    So far, so good.
    Problem is moving the cleat back. I have size 10 bike shoes, really tight. My toes just rub the front tire if I move the cleat back even 1/8th inch. Rubbing the front wheel is, in my humble opinion, not the best setup.
    I"m 5'11", ride a 56cm CannondaleCaad8, and use 172.5 cranks. I can't go longer on cranks.
    Any ideas? I mean, besides committing suicide.
     
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  10. Power Player

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    I use straps and never clip in.

    I know many people will not be about this, but I ride my bike to places like the grocery store and tennis courts.

    Anyway, an option besides suicide.
     
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    I use threaded platforms on my MX bike, so can adjust my foot position.
    But try riding 40 miles without SPD's. OK, clips and straps work, but look old fashioned, still need special cleated shoes, and need constant adjustment once you're going.
    I had the same problem in the mid '80's with my CannondaleR500, feet too big, toes rubbing, but still centered too far forward for my feet. But those shoes are much shorter, so the problem is not nearly as bad.
    Oh, now talking to my contractor. My thinking is askewed...heaven forbid!
    I should use 170 cranks, to pull my feet back, instead of my 172.5's.
     
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    I can do 40 miles with clips and straps. I am in florida though, so no hills. If the worst thing is they look old fashioned, then just go for it. They are also cheap.
     
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    I like the idea of biking to stores and courts but road bikes are insanely expensive and no locks can stop thiefs. Commuter bikes are cool but they're very slow and heavy.

    Back in VN where i came from everyone rode everywhere on bikes. Single speed bikes to boost.

    That photo Johnny posts looks like Vietnamese craftmen/workers. I doubt Johnny is one of them.
     
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    Super jazzed to ride tonight - I have nothing to do for a good 2+ hours, and it's 68 and sunny. Thinking 35 miles will happen. :D
     
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    35 in two hours is a 17.5 average, almost impossible in traffic for almost anyone. Count on 2.75 hours for a 12 average.
     
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    I have a trail that runs from my house straight out about 16 miles - there are 3 stops along the whole way. I can usually average 16 or so - normally get to 21-22 in the straights.
     
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    Please report back with your time and distance.
    I'd bet closer to 14 mph over the whole trip, even topping out at 23 for short distances.
    Sometimes, I used to hop in with the pro's training around Tiburon's loop, 13 miles, and we seldom can average even 15. This pacelining. Topspeeds over 38 on those rides.
     
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    Is the toe overlap effecting your riding? Once you get up to speed you steer more with leaning than by turning the bars. I put my cleats as far back on my shoes as they go. I have toe overlap on a couple of my bikes but don't worry about it once the ride starts.
     
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    It really depends on your level of fitness and traffic. I am lucky enough to live somewhere with very little traffic and stops on many of the loops we do. For me I would consider a 35 mile loop riding solo at 17.5 mph to be close to recovery pace - heart rate in the 130ish range. Any ride that long with an effort for me would be 21+ solo and 23-26 in a group depending on the wind and hills. We have a 35 mile loop we do one night a week and we do it in about 1:30 give or take 5 minutes with the first and last couple miles at warmup/cool down pace. I think there are 6 stop signs on that loop and only two of them are crossing busy roads. Our Saturday ride is 40 miles with the first and last 8 at more of a social pace but we tear it up for the middle 24. We get it done in under two hrs because we are averaging over 26 for the middle part.

    On the flip side, when I lived in San Francisco it would take me half an hour of stop and go in traffic to even get to somewhere that I could "start" my ride, and the same on the way back. In those conditions I agree that it would be very very difficult to average 17.
     
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    I figure I only ever need the toe clearance if I get caught up in traffic. Seems most accidents happen around traffic. On the open road, spinning at 97 rpm, I can't get my toes to hit the front tire. I live in town and need to ride 9 miles to get into the open roads.
    Then again, I'm one of those dyslecsic riders who need to get going from a stop sometimes. At those lower speeds, toe overlap is not the best scenario.
    I know, the solution is to cut off my left toes, buy smaller shoes, and be done with it.
     
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  21. LeeD

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    Ok, OK, I get it.
    I"m old. I"m slow. And I can't ride worth beans. I realize that.
    35 miles in an hour and a half is moving. Our cops and CHP would have a field day giving tickets for running stop signs, signals, and dangerous riding.
     
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  22. jonestim

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    We actually stop at all the signs - at least the front folks. We tend to progress as a group and usually traffic is non existent enough that it works without ******* anyone off. We are also lucky enough that on our Tuesday night ride most of the roads we go on have little to no traffic. For the middle 20+ miles of it we average less than one car passing us per week. It's much different here....
     
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    I think that you would get used to it and it shouldn't be an issue. The first couple times you tap the toe may be a problem but you will figure out naturally how to have it not happen. Toe overlap and no ankle pain is better than no overlap and not being able to ride.
     
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    Thanks.
    I'll try a little toe overlap but enough clearance to force the tire past my toes, the go from there.
    Nice to live away from the big city, to breathe and stretch, and to ride like the wind.
     
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    Well, I ended up getting a call at my desk as I was packing up my laptop, so I had to sit there for an extra half an hour. Ended up knocking out 25 miles in just a hair under an hour and a half, so 16.5 or so mph. Not bad.
     
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  26. LeeD

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    Most excellent!
    I haven't found a route that doesn't require at least 5 stop signs and easily that many stop signals here in the EastBay of SanFrancisco. I don't stop at stop signs, but roll thru around 6 mph (on my speedo). But I do stop at stop signals.
    After 676 miles of riding since I had the speedo, my averages on any ride stay right around 12 mph never faster. Most rides in the 20-35 mile range, lightly pushing it, about 125 heart rate.
    As Popeye said, I yam whot I yam. Old, slow, injured.
     
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    is it ok to ride a bicycle on the road or too dangeorus?
     
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    But still more active than many others your age. Keep it up.
     
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    They call them Road Bikes for a reason. I hate when people use sidewalks for road bikes.
     
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    but isnt it dangerous with the cars so close?
     
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    Yes, a little. It matters where you live, but here bikers have a right to be on the road. I just don't abuse it. I ride to the far side and if I am with a friend I never ride next to him.

    I am not sure where you are at, but you need to keep your awareness high and be smart.
     
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  32. zanabel

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    melbourne but i stopped riding cos i rest my legs for tennis now because i play tennis everyday.
     
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  33. Power Player

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    AU? Ok,I have no idea the rules there but if you stopped riding, it doesnt matter right? lol.
     
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  34. zanabel

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    yeppers australia but yep. my legs are like jelly if i ride a lot AND play tennis. i run a lot in tennis because my friend hits the corners a lot.
     
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    Yeah I cycle to my courts (1 mile) as a warmup. I used to cycle 13 miles and play. Not bad, but if you are playing all the time you can cycle on off days as part of a fitness plan.
     
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    yep good i think i might, i guess good to use different muscles. when i dont ride for a long time and then ride i feel different muscles are used than for tennis.
     
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    Yes and cycling is huge to keep your fitness up if you have to take time off from tennis with an injury.
     
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    ive never had an injury but i guess i might get injured one day :eek:
     
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    Nice pace, I need to get up to that speed.

    Friends and I biked to a outdoor Blues festival last night 12 miles away and ended up riding back around 9 PM. My first night ride and it was a blast. Took some bike trails and it was surreal to be in pitch black with nothing but my small bike light and the guy in front of me in view. Holding a nice pace line was definitely helpful when we were tired towards the end.

    Ended up ending the trip at a local burger bar. Nothing like a slab of protein after a long ride! Fun times.
     
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  40. LeeD

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    Winters, I ride at night mostly, after 7PM, to pick up g/f and accompany her on her way home. Visit a bike store, light power as you need. I use 2 cheapo LED flashlights in front, helmet light in dark areas, and reflector + tail light for the back.
     
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  41. vive le beau jeu !

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    great thread !
    i love biking too.

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    i do mainly mountain bike, although i'm not really into crazy dangerous downhill stuff but rather use it to get lost in the nature, do some exploration and picturesque climbs (the madrid sierra, where i've been living for the past few years, is really great for that).

    i don't have much experience in road bike (only did 2 passes in the alps... something 10 years ago !), but i will get some more soon as i have a bike trip of several days planned in 3 weeks, finishing in the alps. :)

    and you don't have the impression to be cheating a bit, taking so many energy bars with you ? ;)
     
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    Man, wide open trails, nobody around, give me a KX 500 and I'm in heaven!
     
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    My road bike will be delivered to my home this week.

    In the mean time I bought this cruiser over the weekend and did a 30+ miles trail with my friend in 3 hours + 1 hour in between for resting and hanging at the beach.

    It was fun but I thought my legs would fall off. A bit too much for the first time biking. But the next morning I felt fine and went out and played tennis for 3 hours. :)

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    Funny, when I was looking at the bike in the store, I had a bunch of ideas of what to do with it and also thought of finding a women's version for my wife but they didn't have one.


    This couple have some of the same ideas and more...
    http://www.pbase.com/abcdduke/schwinn_cruisers
     
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    Man, that baby is trick.
    Cadel Evans must be waiting in line for one, so he can try it at the TOUR.
    Are you still using a wood 66sq in racket also?
     
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    if anyone is in the ct/ma area, i recommend the farmington canal heritage trail. Its part of the east coast greenway. Not all the way complete, but there are miles of isolated paved roadway and mostly flat! I rode 50 miles on it from ct to ma recently with friends and it was a blast.
     
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    We need something like that in California.
    Everywhere, where there's protected trails, we get hikers, dog walkers, and bird watchers, so we can't cruise at 15+ by law.
    On the road, every road seems to have a car or 3. Stopsigns and stoplights abound, every 4 miles if we find a clear space.
    Just too many people enjoying the outdoors, even on weekday AM's.
     
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    LeeD is correct. CA seems very crowded. I hit the trail with my new road bike last Sat and it was ..kinda crowded. Every few minutes there are (groups of) cyclists passing by you so you can't exactly have the whole trail (a good stretch of it) to yourself. This was my second riding and we did 28+ miles in 2 roughly 2 hours. I'm a little out of shape but butt pain was killing me being inexperienced with fitting.

    I took a bunch of photos of my new road bike and planned to post them for fun, but I lost the usb cable to transfer them to the PC :( Oh well.

    So far cycling hasn't given me the kind of high that I found in tennis. Tennis, when you win, is exciting. Cycling is like running threadmill -- long and painful.
     
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    Cycling is only an adrenaline rush when you compete against guys your skill level. Otherwise, it's basically training, which is like practice or getting fit in tennis...no fun.
    We usually like to ride about 17 miles, stop for a chocolate and cake, then head back, killing 2.5 hours and warming up the legs for windsurfing in the afternoon. Helps to like the company of the person you're riding with also.
     
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    How long is your stop for a chocolate and cake?

    17 miles one way and 17 miles back, assuming your stop is .5, in 2.5 hrs is VERY IMPRESSIVE. That means you practically go 17mph for 1 hr without breaks at all.

    I could only do 15mph and break 2-5 mins every 20 minutes or so.

    You're right. Cycling like this is like fitness training. I mainly get my enjoyment from the breeze, talking and paying attention to my gears. There are many people going way past me and there are quite a few I go past. :) My friend is fitter, has a bike 2x more expensive, ie lighter, and I'm not sure how exactly we'd compete even if we had the heart for it. My friend is very athletic but he thinks tennis isn't convenient. I don't feel like pushing anyone into anything.
     
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    I"m a pretty old guy, so averaging 17.5 is out of my equation, unless it's flat and there is no wind. Our speedometers go to sleep when the front wheel is not spinning, so our average riding pace is not even 14 mph, considering all the stop signs I roll thru, and of course, stop lights we slow down to time thru rolling. Both kill the average about the same, since I usually slow to about 7mph for stop signs, and need foreever to reestablish my cruising speed of around 17-19 in the flats.
    The longest stretch around here with no stop signs or signals might hit 3 miles, a pretty poor indicator of what we really average.
    So what bike did you get? I'm on a 20.4 lbs CannondaleCaad8-6.
     

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