Biking anyone?

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  1. Polaris

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    I don't know. I thoroughly enjoy my rather short bicycle commute which happens at an ambling pace of about 10-11 mph on average. It is among the most interesting parts of my day because I see, hear and smell the city from a completely different perspective. Plus, I don't have to be concerned about parking. Perhaps, I've biased myself by also sometimes driving in the Boston area, which is a really mind-numbing experience.

    Now, if only cycling in the city was a little bit safer, everything would be perfect.
     
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  2. sureshs

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    I hope it is not a ball-numbing exercise. Are you guys aware of the risks of impotency due to biking?
     
  3. SlapShot

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    For me, I found that cycling was a much-needed non-competitive form of exercise. I actually enjoyed that I wasn't winning or losing when I was cycling, I was just trying to get a little faster or ride a little further.
     
  4. Eph

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    So you were the one that stole my Santa Cruz Blur out of Harvard Yard? Luckily my insurance company wrote me a $3500 check so I could buy a new one!


    I have a Turner 5.Spot and a black Cannondale CAAD5 hybrid bike with skinny tires (it is what I use to pedal around town). Does not look expensive, but it is quite a nice bike.

    I'll post pictures later.


    Any good crash stories?
    My biggest/best mountain bike crash resulted in a spleenectomy and partial liver resection. I was 13, in a dual slalom bike race at Killington, and I went off the last jump, landed on my front wheel, flipped the bike and my handlebar went into my stomach. No real crashes since, luckily!
     
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  5. Eph

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    In America, you are supposed to ride on the street. If there is a bike lane, you should ride in the bike lane. q.v. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzE-IMaegzQ


    Imagine riding on the sidewalk and someone pulls out of their driveway and hits you because they had no time to react. That is the rationale. That and bikers are not pedestrians and the sidewalk is meant for pedestrians. I stand in the way of bikers on the sidewalk, causing them to move onto the road.
     
  6. user92626

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    So, it's really 17 miles the whole trip? :) 7mph sounds about right.

    I got an entry level Vilano Forza 4.0

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    It's quite heavy (25lbs), but that's what you paid for to save $$. Also I'm not sure if you'll be doing biking extensively knowing all the problems associated with it.


    I just googled your bike model and it looks very nice.
     
  7. Andreas1965

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    You MUST ride on the road. the fact that car drivers take over with minimum clearance, the fact that car drivers threaten you, insult you and many worse things shouldn't stop you using the road! As long as bikers hide themselves in bike lanes or sidewalks the car drivers believe they live in a bike-free world. The road doesn't belong only to cars.

    Be proud and self confident! Use your space, don't ride with a distance under 100 cm to the sidewalk! As long as there is someone honking, he at least has seen you!! on a bike lane you are invisible for the cars. that's why all these horrible accidents happen. Car makes a right turn, crosses bike lane... BAM!

    I know what I'm talking about, 35 years experience in road biking, more than 20 years of them as a racer.
     
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    For some reason, i thought the thread title was "Bikini"... oh well.
     
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    Cycling feels fast and you're out of road for speeding when you ride in the city streets, but on a trail with endless open road I feel riding is very slow and tedious. Your speed and the amount of road you cover feel so small and insignificant. Adding in the head wind you practically move 5 mph!!! There's no sense of achievement. :)

    Suresh is correct. The issue of impotency is very worrying. And there's something about testicular cancer as well.
     
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    Cycling feels fast when you climb faster than 50 other racers. Or when you are in the middle of a group of 150 going 50M/h. Or when you are being chased by a large group, 10 miles away from the finish line and giving all you have.

    In training, you are not always supposed to go fast. Sometimes we go for 6 or more hours, do some intervals or some climbs, and then just chat a little bit.

    The stories about impotency or cancer are well known. Those "studies" have never been proven right.
     
  11. user92626

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    On my first bike trip my friend and I went from my home to the trail and we needed to use some roads with no bike lane. After that I decided to drive to the trail.

    "Be proud and self confident" has nothing to do with biking safety. Be cautious and defensive is. :) Like driving, even if you observe riding rules, there are still ahole car drivers to cause trouble, and you're always at disadvantage with a bike.

    There are lots of trouble with biking, ie car accident, your own accident, theft, health safety like inhaling tons of car exhausts and dust when you ride in busy streets, sun burn, mugglers, on and on... you gotta plan when you take your bike out.
     
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    I agree with you that you should be careful. You always have to think for minimum 2 people: yourself and the car driver next to you.

    I never thought too much about the dangers of riding bike. Got my first race bike at age 12, started racing at age 13/14 until I turned 38. Since then I ride my bike about 10.000 - 15.000 km per year. Before, mostly when I was considering becoming a professional, it was 25.000 km a year.
    Cycling is more natural than driving for me. I never "planned" when or where to ride my bike. Fill up your bottles, grab a banana and let's go!!

    Might depend where you live or ride your bike. 2 km away from my house there's zero car traffic. Just the road, and nature. Can go for 6 hours seeing less than 20 cars. 10 km away comes the first hill.
     
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    If you're going 5 mph, you're riding into a stiff headwind. ;) I usually average between 15-18 mph for an entire ride, with flat spots getting up over 20. It's exhilirating to feel that kind of speed with my legs being the power source.

    I have just found that I love the freedom of riding on a wide open trail - pushing my limits and testing just how far or how fast I can go.
     
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    You know, I realized, unlike tennis, you can just throw money at it and increase your performance by alot, ie better, lighter bikes, and the rest is a good diet and strength/stamina training.
     
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    Maybe there is nothing to those stories. But I would never discount the influence the sports industry has, whether it is cycling or heading the ball in soccer. Do you want to find out the hard way?
     
  16. Polaris

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    There are conflicting reports about impotence and erectile dysfunction for people who do long rides (a few hours at a time). But, if you are concerned, you could always ride a recumbent :).

    I'm curious: If your kid wanted to ride a bicycle, would you tell him "No" ? Or would you ask him to get his bike properly fitted to his body proportions, and caution him against riding too long too often?
     
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    What is "too long"?
    Over the last 30 years I never did less than 12.000 km /year. Our usual distance is about 120-150 km per ride.
    Never felt any numbness or problems with... you know what.

    You are not supposed to SIT on the saddle all the time. Look at the pros: they change seating position all the time.

    I definitely couldn't go for more than 20 km just by sitting in the saddle. Every few minutes I stand up.
     
  18. sureshs

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    He outgrew his bicycle so we donated it. I need to get him a new one.

    He never biked much. Biking for short distances later in college is OK - that is how I got around in college. But it was only like 10 minutes at a time.
     
  19. LeeD

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    I would hope there is a difference between a casual "10-12 mile" commute to work from a 64 mile race day against 60 other competitors. They just can't be the same thing!
    And tennis. What's a casual hit for 45 minutes, compared to a quarter final MATCH against someone your level?
    Everyone likes a casual, easy cruise to see the sights.
    But it's totally different than a match situation, or a competitive event against your peers.
     
  20. LanEvo

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    Any way guys, I kinda jumped into the scene, to an extent. I got me a SS/FG from Wally World. It was $110 take a few bucks after tax. For a complete bike and everything at that price, it is not too bad. The only thing I cannot really stand too much is the color. I was going to get the Black/Red/Yellow color scheme, but was stuck with the Green/Yellow/Blue-Indigo scheme. Either way, it was down to this, a Kilo TT, or one of the Nashbar fixies. My campus is relatively flat and I did not want to mess with tune-ups on an actual road bike.

    Anyway, the bike is really heavy right now, probably in the low 30s or so. It is mainly due to the heavy wheels, can someone reccomend me a place that would sell a cheap wheel set which fit tire sizes around 700x32/28? Right now at stock it is sitting on 700x38s. And one tire is yellow, while the other is blue. I wanna spend about $50 on upgrades and be done. Anyone recommend anything in that price range? And in the future, I will do some minor upgrades, metal pedals, bullhorn bar, upgraded brakes, etc.
     
  21. LeeD

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    Always a brilliant idea to spend upwards of 4,000 on a light set of wheels for a 110 buck bike ...:)
     
  22. Eph

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    I'm going to Highland Bike Park in NH this weekend for my birthday for some downhill mountain biking! I am so excited!
     
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    Is that a ski resort making some money for the summer?
    What bike do you ride? Are you renting it? What's the cost?
    Lots of my windsurfing friends were sponsored downhillers, so rode NorthStar, DonnerSkiRanch, Squaw, and Kirkwood ski resorts.
     
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    I'm new to this thread so just saying "hi"! I bike every day for a living on a biketaxi in Orlando. It's sometimes extreme biking (50-60 miles with a trailer and hopefully two or more passengers). Best thing I've ever done for my health...dropped 30 lbs. And rid myself of nagging leg issues. Come see me if you travel here!
     
  25. LeeD

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    Wow, a pro biker!
    I get tired after 37 miles, wimp I am.
     
  26. LanEvo

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    I said I want to spend around $50, any suggestions?
     
  27. LeeD

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    OK, I'll bite.
    Just pump up your tires to 60 lbs., best you can do.
    A wheelset is hubs, spokes, rim, put together. A new one goes from 200 to 4,000 dollars. Midnight auto parts might be cheaper.
    A tire is around $25 for cheapos.
    How much did you want to spend?
     
  28. Eph

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    I have a Turner 5. Spot, in blue. See here: http://www.turnerbikes.com/turner-bike-models/fivespot I also have a Cannondale CAAD5 hybrid bike that I use to get around town.

    They rent good downhill bikes for $100. It costs $38 for the lift pass for the day-- not a bad price at all!

    Actually, this place only does mountain biking, surprisingly enough. it is supposed to be very nice. Here's a cool video showing one of the (presumable advanced) trails: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryVSu2TaE2g
     
  29. SlapShot

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    Put your $50 in your pocket. You won't find decent wheels for $50. I'd be surprised if you found any wheels for $50.
     
  30. fundrazer

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    Necrobump!

    I got my first pair of road shoes today! I went with a pair of Specialized Comp shoes in Wide. One of the only shoes I've seen to be offered in wide, but these fit very well so far. Now I'm just waiting for my pedals to come overseas from Ribble. Then I'll finally be going cliplesss! Well, I'll get comfortable clipping in and out before going on the road, haha. For pedals I went with Look Keo Max 2's.
     
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    I've been on SPD"s since the early '90's, but still don't believe it's the all around best choice. The best choice for sport rides, yes, but maybe not for everything.
    Just relax your ankles, step out heel first. If you stiffen up your calf muscles, you will be trying to pull the balls of your feet straight sideways, a total non release leading to a slow motion LaughIn topple over.
     
  32. vive le beau jeu !

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    from mountain bike to road bike

    i now have a bit of experience in road bike !

    the well-deserved col du Galibier:
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    the lunar landscape of the Casse Deserte, close to the col d'Izoard:
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    the col Agnel (the italian side wasn't a piece of cake !):
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    this Vitus bike was lent to me (as i don't have a road bike) and it was really a good one, even if the size of the frame was probably a little bit small for me...
    also, first experience with clip-in pedals, which turned out to be fine... after some adjustment period !

    it was a great experience... and certainly not the last !!!

    only 2 points that i need to investigate before a future trip: a more comfortable saddle (ouch !) and the shape of handlebar for going downhill in the passes (for climbing it was ok). not being used to road bikes, i found it (the position of the arms/hands for braking) really uncomfortable compared to my straight mountain bike handlebar, even after riding more than 500 km... i guess there are other possibilities than the "classical" shape, right ?... some suggestions, maybe ?...
     
  33. fundrazer

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    The drop style handlebars are standard on all road bikes. Comfort/hybrid bikes will usually have the flat bar style.

    I think the best technique for descending is to ride with your hands in the drops (where the bars curl down). You can make very subtle adjustments to your direction, and you can also very easily apply the brakes forcefully if you have to.
     
  34. LeeD

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    Frame your road is correctly sized for a pro level rider.
    You are not.
    Most rec and touring riders like higher handlebars, at least even with their saddle heights. Your has the requisite 3" lower bars than saddle ratio....for racers.
    I disagree with riding the drops downhill. They're for reduced aero drag, great for going 40+ downhill, something you shouldn't do on public and uncontrolled roads. Use the hoods.
    My friends are bike touring the Swiss, Italian, and French Alps this whole month, camping and self sufficient. They do this every late summer for the last 7 years. She's a hardcore rider from Switzerland. In late July, they rode the 5 passes around Markleville (SLakeTahoe) in 2 days.
     
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    Hey Duy, how's it hangin?
    Aren't you up around Vancouver area? Like the best mountain riding in the world? Watch out for bears and wolves, though.
    Where I'm living now, still SanPablo, I got a 16 mile dirt loop that goes up to InspirationPoint, about 900' elevation, then back along the ridge towards home.
    My g/f rides a cyclocross bike, me an old FisherHooKooEKoo.
    She likes her 14lbs road bike more, but on the road, of course.
     
  37. fundrazer

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    Well, my Look Keo Max 2's came in the mail today. Installed em on my bike maybe 45 minutes ago and went cruising around in the driveway. A little bit nerve wracking so far... I've gotten used to clipping out of the pedal (fell down once though :(), but my biggest problem so far is clipping in comfortably. I think I just need to get used to remembering that the cleat is basically under the balls of the foot.
     
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    Yeah, hadn't ridden my clip bike in almost 3 months. We windsurf in the summer, and I play tennis.
    Yesterday took it out for a 12 mile'er to OaklandBART, rode over to Embarkadero on BART, rode the bike to St.FrancisYacht (maybe 3 miles, easy), watched the final Fleet Race, rode to WiseSurfboards (another 5 or so), back to eat at Cal/Filmore, back to BART, for a 8 miler back home for a total of around 37.
    Just remember to pull your heel out first.
    My butt was sore, but everything else fine. Wore padded riding pants, but that's too many miles for an untrained butt.
     
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    I must disagree with that.

    If there is a bike lane, one should use that and not try to occupy precious space on the road. Especially in the cities, where there are designated areas for the bikers, it is nothing short of self-serving to do that, when everybody is stuck in traffic jams all the time.


    There are bad drivers and there are good drivers. You should not lump them all in one category.

    The truth is, that you notice the ones, that cause you problems, but do not notice the vast majority, that waits patiently behind you, regardless of the fact, that you are causing them to go slower, when they are already having time shortages on their way to some important meeting or after a long day in the office on their way home.

     
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    We all drive cars.
    Do we want bikers hogging a whole lane riding 2 abreast, yakking like women?
    Do we want bikers hogging two whole lanes, 4 abreast, yakking like.....
    Do onto other's as you would have them do onto you.
    Ride to the right, as far as safe, to allow faster traffic by...when it's safe.
     
  41. max

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    I'm planning to go cross-country with my son once he graduates from high school.
     
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    Wow! This is awesome (and doubly so for your son). Do check out the blog of Russ Roca and Laura Crawford (The Road Less Pedaled) if you haven't already done so. The did a cross country trip in 2010 and blogged about it in great detail.
     
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    Went on my first ride in a long while yesterday. Took a bit of a break, but then I decided I'd wait to start up again till my pedals/shoes came in. Since I've now got everything, went on my first normal ride in a few weeks. I's about a 15mile ride that I've kind of made "my ride" for the time being. I think I can definitely go longer, I'm just not sure where to get yet :D

    Update on my experiences with clipless pedals. I had absolutely no trouble whatsoever yesterday. I could clip out when I needed to, and only a minor goof or two when trying to clip in. Think I need to center the cleat on my left shoe a bit. Other than that, everything has been perfect! The shoe I decided to go with has turned out to be the perfect decision. The fit is basically perfect, and it never causes my feet any pain or discomfort. So anybody looking to move to clipless, I am very happy with my choice of shoe, the Specialized Comp Road. I bought the wide version and am very very happy with them.

    I still need to get more bike clothes though. I've only got 3 jerseys and 2 pairs of bibs at the moment. Some of it is also the team replica kit from Nalini Moa, so I think I'll be getting some bibs from their regular line of apparel. Like my road shoes, the fit on Nalini stuff for me just seems perfect.
     
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    The cycling shorts are the most important not to skimp on. Get some good ones, air dry after washing and your body will thank you. I wear shorts over them since I ride to places like pools in the city or spots to hang out..but definitely get some good ones. Sounds like the bibs got you covered.
     
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    Someone explain to me why they don't run the brake and gear cables inside the frame, for a cleaner look?
     
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    Ever replace cables inside the frame? Pain...
     
  47. LeeD

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    Corrosion seems to work inside the frames with open holes blocked only by cables. Dirt get's in, as does water. Maintainance seems more important than a great aero look.
    Besides, the rider is a huge air drag.
     
  48. fundrazer

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    Some bikes actually do run cables inside the frame. I am pretty sure that Cervelo is pretty big on that with their bikes.
     
  49. vive le beau jeu !

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    my last ride: the pico veleta (3396 m), in the sierra nevada (andalusia). a muy long climb... immediately had a nap at the summit as soon as i arrived ! ;)

    the peak, seen from halfway up the climb
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    the veleta summit, with the mulhacen in the background (highest mountain in continental spain, at 3479 m: a bit higher than this one)
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    curiosity from the local fauna...
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  50. SuperDuy

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    Hey Dom, rarely go on this forum anymore. Did not lay tennis this year unfortunately because of a knee injury. The season/summer is so short any way.

    I am out of Vancouver now unfortunately and back to the cold in Winterpeg. what ya been up to.

    Might go for a ride soon, but it is totally flat where I live so not much fun.
     

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