Bill Simons calls Fed's mono "mysterious"

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  1. sureshs

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    Inside Tennis, July 2009, has the very respected tennis journalist (not to be confused with a namesake) Bill Simons saying this on page 4:

    "Thanks to Rafa and a mysterious bout with mono, Federer's presumed cakewalk ......"

    To me, it is clear that he never bought the mono story.
     
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    Yes. Very fishy. Almost as fishy as Nadal's tendonitis.
     
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  3. sureshs

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    Nadal's tendinitis is in his head
     
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    Hey look, someone who believes athletes injuries are all made up. I love it!



    Actually, I wouldn't put it past either of them to make up excuses in order to maintain their egos. All athletes must have huge amounts of confidence to succeed, and some make up excuses in order to maintain that confidence.
     
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    agassi pussed out against bejamin becker. his back was fine, just as it was in the baghdatis match
     
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    Good for the respected Bill Simons then.Nobody's forcing him to believe it anyway and I personally doubt Fed gives a crap.
     
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    A respected journalist shouldn't say crap like that. If he doesn't believe it, say it out loud, It's worth a whole 3 pages if he is convinced and has evidence that Fed's mono was fake (what does Fed win with that anyway?) but don't be a coward and doubt it 'between the lines'.


    @ OP: what was the context of that part of the sentence?
     
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    It was how Federer's reign was ending (and later of course it was about his comeback)
     
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    I don't see any reason to take as absolute truth any injury issue a player may say he has.

    I don't really believe Safin pulled out of Queens because he had a "back injury" when he was pictured the next day (in Russia opening a new tennis court" hitting a huge serve. And playing at Fortis the next week (back in london) at an exo that must have paid him lots of $ to be there along with Nadal, Blake, Wawrinka, Berdych.

    And I don't think he makes up injuries any more or less than any other player does.

    Anyone who takes at face value everything players say is naive. It's part of "the game"
     
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    I find it dumb that this "respected journalist" didn't do any research into his "findings".

    Story dismissed.
     
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    ^^^ Many other writers and commentators have also taken the same view.
     
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    What's the problem? Federer's mono is mysterious. We know very little about it, the extent of it, the type, when it began and ended, the exact diagnosis...

    He didn't say he doubted the mono claim.
     
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    who else than this respected journalist?
     
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    Peter Bozo, JMac (the tone with which he commented on this), and if I remember right, Martina N too. And many more I don't remember.
     
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    Peter Bozo would say that Federer was from Mars,if that helped his continuous Fed hating.
    and you interpreted by the TONE of Jmac that he found it suspicious?lol sorry but I don't trust the interpretation of your veteran trolling brain.
     
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    Then you could also say my interpretation of "mysterious" is wrong and Bill Simons was really writing about something like a Sherlock Holmes situation, and not implying that the mono was exaggerated.

    You don't expect a commentator to question Federer's veracity. You have to go by the tone and the sentence construction.
     
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    no.Because his comment is written and I can read it for myself.But trusting your own interpretation of some obscure comment Jmac allegedly made when and where I don't know..is too much.:)

    But nice try though.
    I also want to comment you,because you don't make prejudice as to whom to troll.:) That's very nice,and put you in a better category than other trolls in my eyes.Kudos!
     
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    Actually I'm pretty sure that JMac was convinced that he was ill in the beginning of 2008, I don't recall him ever saying otherwise. In any event, it's really kind of old news now anyway, time to move forward.
     
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    Don't worry BreakPoint will fill you in on the details.
     
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    someone mentioned "type" of mono?
    good article about mono although some things arent said very clearly but definitely worth reading:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infectious_mononucleosis
    so yeah good question which type of mono fed had suffered from???
    wait i know the answer, non-existent type :D
     
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    Fed did not have mono

    It was a cover up.

    His hair stylist made a mistake and Fed had to wear a wig. It bothered him so much that his hair was messed up that he could not concentrate on tennis. After a year, his hair fully recovered.
     
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    Fed's supposed mono was not mysterious, it was fake.
     
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    Just like every single one of Djokovic's retirements. :rolleyes:
     
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    It wasn't mono but an intoxication from eating Mirka's food!
     
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    What bull doody this tread is. And Suresh, if you want to be taken seriously, quotes please.
     
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  26. BreakPoint

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    Um...it was only "mysterious" because Federer tried to keep it from the public for almost a month from the time he found out that he actually had mono, and because during the AO '08, people didn't know why he was so ill and the doctors in Australia misdiagnosed it as being food poisoning.

    Tell me, is this writer also a medical doctor? Is he a world class athlete in incredible physical shape? Has he ever been ranked #1 on the ATP Tour for 237 consecutive weeks? Has he ever made it to 20 consecutive GS semifinals? So how does he know how mono would affect Federer?

    And lastly, if he didn't believe that Federer had mono, he would have never even mentioned it in his article. He would have just said - "Due to Rafa...Federer's cakewalk hit the pause button...."

    The fact that he even mentioned mono at all, tells me that he does indeed believe Federer had mono.
     
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    Yeah, Federer never retired from a match even with mono. Yet, Djokovic has retired from matches just because he has a sore throat or a cold. That blows your mind, doesn't it? How can anyone possibly compete when they have anything worse than a sore throat? Djokovic certainly couldn't. :oops:
     
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    Bud Collins was never #1, but doesn't he know tennis? Bill Simons is a renowned tennis journalist, just check out how well he is known.
     
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    Is Bud Collins also a medical doctor? How the heck would he know how the mono virus would affect Federer?

    All the commentators at the AO said Federer looked seriously ill, especially during the Djokovic match. Do Pat McEnroe, Darren Cahill, Brad Gilbert, and Mary Carillo know nothing about tennis?
     
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    He's also a bit senile now adays. If you rewind the clock about 5-10 years he's ok, but now sometimes he just makes some of the strangest comments I have ever heard. Maybe he just knows so much about tennis, and have talked about so much about it, he just talks to talk.




    Bill Simons is alright. I think it's fair to say that he has doubts about mono (as do many posters). That is their opinion, and they are entitled to it. It's not like he's going around shoving it up everyones' throat (unlike some posters on this board).
     
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    I don't recall anything like that. How did he make it to the semifinal then?
     
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    Then you weren't watching with your eyes open.
     
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    He made it to the SF. He was visibly out of sorts. What we do know for sure, there's no way Federer was 100% healthy for that specific tournament. He most likely had some sort of illness. Could have been mono, could have been something else. Who knows. I know for sure though, any objective person watching that tournament knew Federer was visibly off that whole tournament (even more so than the FO 2008 ).
     
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    Hehe. Suresh has an eye for the sensational and the tabloid-y components of sports journalism. Too much Bodo?

    The mono was indeed mysterious. We don't know how bad it was, we don't know when exactly it happened.However, we do know that something definitely affected Federer's play during those months, he mentioned mono as the cause. Simmons just stated the obvious, but clearly, that one word stood out enough for you to start the 123851034865209438600298793875th thread on Fed's mono :) .

    I don't understand why people want to start a thread for no other purpose than to get other people arguing. It is a pitiful waste of internet bandwidth and its only contribution is to increase the amount of useless garbage floating around on the Web - as if there wasn't enough of it already.
     
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    Maybe it was simple food poisoning? A fever? Take rest for a few days and it is gone. If you try to play in a Slam semi-final during that time, sure, you might not look your best. What is the big deal?

    Look at Knadal. Just some ibuprofen, a little massage, and he is supposedly going to be back to 100% in 3 - 4 weeks, according to his doctor. What is the big deal? Why all this drama?
     
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    Nadal has mono.......monodimensional game.
     
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    What deal? What drama?

    Why this thread? You should be practicing your serves.
     
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  38. BreakPoint

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    Thank you for your professional diagnosis Dr. Sureshs.

    May I ask where you went to medical school? :-?
     
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    Plain and simple there is no direct evidence to suggest that Federer was lying about his mono. Why would he? He could use any number of much simpler excuses if he needed them.
     
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    well i belive no one here is actually a doctor
    however i was curious enough to ask 3 friends of mine who actually are doctors and all 3 of them said: "theres no way anyone with mononucleosis could play a tennis match because it affects everybody the same"
    and since one of them is the same man who diagnosed me with mono 8 years ago i trust him more than u :D
     
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  41. Cenc

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    mono excuse "covers" the whole season of worse results than he used to achieve
     
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    I have a friend that says you're an idiot. Are you going to believe that too?


    Since you are trying to disprove Federer did not have mono, the burden of proof is on you. Show us facts and evidence as to why Federer did not have mono.
     
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  43. IvanAndreevich

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    What happened to the presumption of innocence? Your explanation is not proof.
     
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  44. BreakPoint

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    Sure, and everyone who gets the swine flu virus drops dead, too.

    Mono is a virus, and everyone's bodies and immune systems react to viruses differently.

    BTW, did those same doctors also tell you that there's no way that anybody could make it to 20 consecutive Grand Slam semis?

    And obviously Federer couldn't play tennis very well with mono.
     
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  45. Cesc Fabregas

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    Well one being you can't play 6 matches in the searing heat of Australia with mono.
     
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    Everyone has different severities of the disease. You want to prove something, you need a more direct evidence, like a doctor coming out that he lied or something along those lines.
     
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  47. BreakPoint

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    Why? Because you've tried it?

    Are you Federer?
     
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  48. Cesc Fabregas

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    Just because Federer is a better atlete than the average person doesn't mean he has a better immune system.
     
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    Federer declined horridly. He had mono in 2007 when the hardcourt and clay losses came, and lucky ride in Wimbledon happened.
    The challenge system made him sick because he couldn't get away with stolen matches anymore.... Only matches with Nadal didn't involve Fed's mono! He was deathly sick after his hated American enemies beat him. He even got lucky against Ginepri. Federer bragged about losing only once in 4 years against Americans... Poor laughing thing also gloated about beating Roddick on ESPN.
     
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  50. BreakPoint

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    Um...yes, it does. How many Grand Slams has he ever missed in his career? None. Out of the close to thousand matches he's played in his career, has he ever retired during one? Nope. Does he ever even looked tired in the 5th set? Nope.

    The guy is pretty much superhuman.
     
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