Billy Scanlon !!

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  1. Lendlisking

    Lendlisking New User

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    Just finished is book " Bad news for McEnroe "..really loved it !! I couldn't stand this guy as a mac fan in the early 70's and 80's, but after this read I admire him so much ! Jm was a major ****** as I look at it now...all his tirades and rants were to throw better players off their game..if he was losing he had to go to his bag of tricks,//" shoe tie, racket change...what ever ". Billy Scanlon wrote a great book which I respect and will buy !! Looking for old footage of his 83 QF win at the Open against cry baby mac...anybody can help me out here with that footage ?
     
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    I do not look it that way at all, his opponents where just just having a free rest time while McEnroe was fuming at whatever bothered him that particular time.

    I think he is simply a spoiled brat who never learned any manners from his parents.
     
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  3. borg number one

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    Lendlisking, you may like this 1978 video clip below. I haven't found any footage from that '83 US Open for Scanlon yet. See this interesting interview with him in 1978 after he beat McEnroe in Maui. He talks about how he was struggling with wanting to keep playing week in week out here. Yet, obviously he had his best results in the years to follow. Sometimes McEnroe would use his temper and tantrums to basically change the flow a match and "ice" a hot opponent. It was sometimes just his temper and at other times, he was just frustrated that he was losing and he wanted to try something to turn the tide.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvGNFwsZosM


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICItLTu7Y7A (NBC footage of the 1979 Wimbledon quarters, where Jimbo took out Scanlon.)
     
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  4. kiki

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    I loved Scanlon.Talent wated in tons, able to beat or give a serious scare to the very best...and a surf guy who spent most of his time in Hawai ( I don´t do any surf, but I like that free spirit of Scanlon)

    Imagine how much did he hate JMac that he used to play doubs with...Ivan Lendl¡¡¡ I am 100% sure they did it to have time to mock on Mc Enroe during the changeovers...
     
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  5. Moose Malloy

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    Some strange(perhaps deliberate) misremembering by Scanlon in his book. He talks about his '83 W meeting with Mac(a 75, 76, 76 loss) and says he was encouraged by the fact that he had set points in all 3 sets. He says that '3 points' was what he kept telling himself throughout the summer & in his USO rematch with Mac. I watched that match recently, & Scanlon only had one set point(which was in the 2nd set tiebreak)

    The USO match was epic.

    I have like a hundred Mac matches on tape. I would say half of all his tantrums were when he was leading. Weird how often fans today seem to forget this(when was his tantrum in his most famous loss at the French? when he was up 2 sets to love) He was always on edge in every match, no matter what the score. He could be up 1-0 in the first and completely lose it.

    and having watched so many of his matches within recent years, I would say he was right a lot of the time in his arguments(at least say pre 1985). The umpires used at 1980 Wimbledon wouldn't be qualified to umpire USTA leagues today, they were woefully incompetent, unaware of some of the most basic rules("let's play a let" after Mac hits an ace that was called out. Mac explains its either an ace or a fault, and somehow he's the bad guy???) many players of the past just put up with their cluelessness, but Mac could not let it slide(Borg & Vilas and many of the good guys have talked about the 'amateurish' nature of officiating in the 70s)
     
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  6. kiki

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    Yes, he did it mostly when leading.he said it was to hype him around..
     
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  7. Gizo

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    Yeah Mac would often be in great form and completely destroying his helpless opponent, and then just fly off the handles.

    Later on in his career I felt that he actually often played worse following a tantrum, especially after becoming a father. Maybe after one of his rants he suddenly thought to himself 'am I setting a good example for my kids here'. Not that this stopped him repeating his actions soon after of course !

    John Lloyd also spoke about how terrible the officiating was back then.
     
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  8. the green god

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    You were a big Mac fan, but your username is lendlisking? I'm not buying.
     
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  9. mattennis

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    Golden era: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn48OAQjEBM

    By the way, the matchpoint in the McEnroe-Lendl 1983 final was amazing...

    The next year, 1984, McEnroe was just at his best level ever, destroyed everybody, including Connors in the final.
     
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  10. Lendlisking

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    well buy this...YES I was / started a huge mac fan, but then appreciated Lendl's game a hell of a lot more ! Satisfying enough for you ?
     
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  11. bigmanu70

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    I never liked JMc, arrogant, unfair, ignorant, nasty...the only reason why people could stand him was because during cold war a guy from US was always better than a guy from Czech epublic. many said that lendl didn' smile enough: well, i'd have liked to see them growing in Czech republic!!!
     
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  12. kiki

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    Never seen Mac smile on court either
    He didliked smiling
    I' d really like what relationship he had with parents and how did they really raised him up
     
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