Biomimetic Max 200G

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  1. crazyups

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    Great, looks pretty awesome. I only have one maxply mcenroe and these specs look even better.
     
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  2. Renfrow

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    Is it basically just a 300 with a leather grip?
     
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  3. tom4ny

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    thanks for the update! very exciting indeed. from the specs it looks like the bio max 200g is the love child of the bio 200 lite and bio 300. this may help drive sales for all the bio 200 versions. thanks for sharing, and for the photos too! :)
     
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  4. 0d1n

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    Nice looking frame, congrats on the purchase. My Vantages are about 315 grams and 32 cm balance unstrung also...so I already have similar specs :p.
    Playing weight is somewhere around 335 grams.
    Those Dunlops are more colorful though ... :p.
     
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  5. Power Player

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    Best PJ in a long time.

    (Besides the Black Drives)
     
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  6. interjim

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    Wow. That's just beautiful. Thanks for posting the pics, AO. Could be the big reward for myself, when/if I make it to 4.5. Some carrot, that.
     
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  7. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    That's pretty...
     
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  8. Deuces Wild

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    Almost

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  9. tistrapukcipeht

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    I wonder what kind of women you guys think look beautiful, I think this paint job is just plain ugly.

    This is just like the ugly Juice racquet painted on a Dunlop.
     
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  10. Rock Strongo

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    Oh you should see her. She looks absolutely amazing! Shame she's got someone else though...

    Back to this though, if the Max 200G would be released today, it would probably look like this aswell.
     
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  11. Power Player

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    How do you compare looks of a racquet to women? That's a serious reach.
     
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  12. bluetrain4

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    Wouldn't you think that if the BioMX200g is being sold at the TW tent at IW, release of the frame to the general public has to be imminent?
     
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  13. KFwinds

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    AO, you've just become my favorite poster on these boards.

    :)
     
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  14. Agent Orynge

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    I'm glad to hear that. It might help balance out the few that don't care for me too much.
     
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  15. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    no, mate, they have all been banned!
     
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  16. Agent Orynge

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    Timbo! I know you like Dunlop, no comments?
     
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  17. forthegame

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    I just had to LOL! Genius post.
     
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  18. klementine

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    Eye candy. Absolutely gorgeous PJ. Thanks for the pics Orynge.

    Question is now, how does it play?
     
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  19. vkartikv

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    I want it! Right now!!!!
     
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  20. MAXXply

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    Meh. It just looks like the old AG100 4D, with green bits instead of brown. The white paint on the inner upper hoop is an unecessary disruption to what little cosmetic symmetry exists on the racket. The chevrons above the handle are the only throwback to the original 200G.
     
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  21. lgbalfa

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    i agree that besides the chevrons, that is really the only thing retro.

    other than that, i don't think it is particularly a nice looking racquet.

    regardless - i will still give it a demo based on the specs.
     
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  22. lgbalfa

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    i do like how it has mcenroe's autograph on it though.
     
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  23. Pneumated1

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    I'm not in total disagreement, but I'm not so much into the aesthetics of a racquet. I do think the regular Bio. 300 trumps this one in the "looks" dept., but what has me excited, as a former Dunlop 300 die-hard is the potential of +1oz. 300G, Mfil, Bio. 300. I hope it plays like a weighted Bio. 300.

    Nothing that a little touch up paint couldn't cover. I was/am more of a Lendl fan:)
     
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  24. KFwinds

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    Think about it though; besides the chevrons, what was distinctive about the Max 200g? It was a black racquet with green stripes, like the POG. IMO, all the new model needed for retro flavor was the chevrons...
     
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  25. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    Mike, it's beautiful and I would have one in a second. I go a bit mad trying to play with different racquets on a day to day basis and I have a deal with Yonex at the moment. (V-Core 95Ds, love them!)

    I am still tempted to get one and just put it away, beautiful frame!
     
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  26. MAXXply

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    Agreed. My dislike for it is mainly based on my longstanding dislike of loud PJs that use too many elements to break up the smooth monotony of the frame. What's so bad about an all-black, blue or red frame? I really liked the old Revelation 200G 95 "Checkerboard motif" frame from years ago - that one used the original 200G's heritage green colour really nicely, teamed with flashes of gold.
     
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  27. tom4ny

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    i like most of the biomimetic frame's paint jobs and i also think that dunlop did a great job marrying the new paint job with the old max.

    it also makes sense to me that it will be lower powered than the 300 series but heavier. they are leveraging the passion for the old max and mcenroe's name's for marketing a new frame and the 200 series no doubt but also, the bio 200 frames are lower powered than the 300. that is why i will likely stick with my chrome and red which looks outstanding, but more so i like the power level and control i get with the bio 300t.
     
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  28. KFwinds

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    Ahh, yes - the Revelation 200g. That might have been the best 200 PJ ever. I do love this new Biomimetic scheme, but some sort of checkerboard element would have been appropriate for a Mac frame as well.
     
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  29. Pneumated1

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    I think you touch on several good points. It probably will be slightly lower-powered than the regular 300, but the extra weight is the attraction, and it may translate into more pop than we think. Also, some would call the 200's a little anemic, but this new "Max200" will definitely offer a little more juice than your typical 200, I would think, considering the open string pattern, extra beam width, and HM, Mfil, Bio. mold. All of these factors do beg the question: Is it a 200 or 300? I still say it's a great option in the 300 line, which seems to drive Dunlop sales.
     
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  30. bbulla

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    TW Customer Support is telling me mid-April it will be on the website for purchase.
     
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  31. tom4ny

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    i agree with you that it should have a bit more pop than the other 200's as the stiffness rating is about 10 points higher than the 200 lite. it's probably more like a bio 250? haha. the specs do seem right up your alley and i will be interested to hear how it compares to your modified londons. from what i hear the 300's and 500's are selling. the 200's not as much and the 400's havent been as well received as expected. (admittedly 2nd hand info. from my stringer/coach) i think that this will be the last biomimetic upgrade until the new line next year.
     
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  33. Shangri La

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    Wait, let me ask others first...

    From what I read, the two have the same mold. So yea they will look the same.
     
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  34. chip&chrge

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    Paint Job

    This is the first I've noticed that the 200G and POG paintjobs are so similar. Too bad the biomimetic pj doesn't keep the green striped look.

    Kinda wishing the PJ was more classic like the ProStaff Sampras 88 updated the PS6.0 85.

    In any case I do like the retro idea going on here and I'm excited that the specs are right in my wheelhouse!
     
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  35. JGads

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    Lot of pop here. Pretty spinny frame. Very good crisp feel. But I strung this thing too low by accident (I thought the tension range was 50-60 and it's 55-65). Realized this after looking at the frame more closely during an erratic first set. Had to switch over to something else as I just couldn't control it. Frame hits big with a lot of spin as it's a pretty open string bed. Will see if I can tame it.
     
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  36. Backhanded Compliment

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    strung with what and what tension? is it anything like the bio 300 tour in play? That racket is a flat serving machine.
     
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  37. JGads

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    Black Widow/NVy hybrid at 51/54. I'll be able to give more of a comparison with the 300 Tour in a few days hopefully; hadn't hit with the 300T until visiting Indian Wells this week and hitting with both the Mac frame and the 300Tour on the demo court, and the 300T felt so good I also ordered a demo of it to check out. Definitely hits a flatter ball more easily than the 200G, which so far seems to want to hit spin. Personally I've usually veered towards closed-pattern frames so I thought the 300T was worth an extended look, along with the 200G. I'm upping the tension on the 200G to 58 pounds with Tour Bite, my go-to string.
     
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  38. Shangri La

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    How was the stability, and how did you feel about the sweetspot size? Thanks.
     
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  39. KFwinds

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    AO, have you had a chance to hit with yours yet?
     
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  40. JGads

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    Feels average so far, not too big, not too small. Can't say much for stability since didn't really come to the net much with it in my hand today. Facing a very big hitter tomorrow so hoping to get it restrung by then. Will report more as I play more.
     
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  41. Pneumated1

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    Deuces Wild a few pages back showed a pic of his Bio. 300 with a Volkl leather grip. And from what you're reporting, that modified Bio. 300 is going to hard to beat with its balance of precision/pop and ability to hit with either spin or flat. Let us know what you find by upping the tension. I'm gonna be switching frames very soon, and I'm having a hard time choosing between the X-Force Pro, IG Prestige MP, and a modified Bio. 300. Had high hopes for this one, as I get sick of leading frames.
     
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  42. Shangri La

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    Thanks for the early feedback! Will be following your further report.
     
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  43. Azzurri

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    and that racket totally sucked. I really am in awe of how well Mac can play with anything (wood, max 200g, MP graphite and now this new one) and still plays at an extremely high level.
     
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  44. Deuces Wild

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    It's feels great, but the static and swingweight need to be brought up significantly as you and others have noted. The static weight went up to only 11.1 with the Volkl grip. The 200G will probably need a decent amount of lead as well.

    I'm hoping to get to 11.8 with a SW in the mid 320's.
     
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  45. Agent Orynge

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    Yeah, I'll try to post some impressions later today.
     
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  46. Say Chi Sin Lo

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  47. Pneumated1

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    Fortunately, the Dunlop 300's are some of the most customizable frames on the market. I played my 300G's at around 11.8-11.9oz. Based upon my demo impressions of your frame a few weeks ago, I think the Bio. 300 plays very solid in the 11.5 range. It's on my radar for sure. Sweet frame! I felt like I had never put my 300G's down playing with it.

    I'm surprised that the Volkl leather didn't add more weight. I thought that it was reputed to be about 28-30g trimmed. Oh well, that plus 6-8g of lead at 3/9 and that much under your grip should work well for you.
     
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  48. lgbalfa

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    it just shows you it is more the player than the equipment.
     
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  49. JGads

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    I'll be honest. Not loving the frame so far. Higher tension was better tonight, but there's going to need to be some modification in stacking some lead beneath the grip for some bottom weight, as this frame is very even balanced as is. It may be a bit spinnier than what I normally like, too (I'm generally a fan of more controlled closed patterns). I'll try another outing with lead at the handle, but this frame may just not be for me.

    Those liking big spin and pop will like this one, though. Plenty of power to be had.
     
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  50. KFwinds

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    JGads, what is the strung balance of your frame? Thanks!
     

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