Björn Borg great at AKAI nov 1982

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  1. Borgforever

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    Hi everybody!

    Great forum. The actual, genuine, Borg-expert is here from Sweden. You can ask any question about "The Great Ice Cold Ghost Killa"-Borg and I will answer as best I can -- and if I can.

    First out I will soon post a highlight reel on Youtube from, perhaps, Borg's greatest and last tennis-perfomance from his peak era: defeating John McEnroe at the AKAI Gold Challenge in '82.

    Borg was potentially great in 82. In november, after 3 months of tough practice, much of it with weights, Borg peaked his form and won the AKAI -- tournament (Golden Racket in Sydney indoors on carpet outclassing Lendl in the subsequent final in straight easy sets -- 6-1,6-4,6-2).

    Borg was visibly bulkier in his upper body here, to increase power in his shots. Which his defeat of Mac at AKAI clearly demonstrates. He just hits every stroke harder than ever. Becoming an outright slugger with stunning success. This is probably the brief fleeting moment of his absolute best before the started to feel "slightly bored" again in Stockholm in december which turned into the decision to quit at the start of 83.

    But Man at AKAI he could've got a GRAND SLAM with that play in 82 and who knows in 83. Yes, Borg was more economical in his speed around the court than Rafa but he's also quite amazing in the foot-speed department.

    Borg was denied to enter Wimby 82' though he was prepared to. I have an interview where he's sits in a sofa watching Jimbo and Mac in 82 battling it out and Borg comments "Oh, I want to be there now, paying them, God, I miss it now!". Damn ITF!

    I can watch his movement forever. That soundless feather-like waltzing -- The Greyhound of Tennis -- he's suddently just there, ghost-like, in perfect position, with an excellent deep back-swing to unhurriedly firing with full follow-through. Borg won a 100m dash at an ALL STAR GAME in Gothenburg in 83 against Pelé and other sportstars. I guess on 10,2 or so. Untrained!

    In the exxo on July 28th 1982 in Richmond, VA Borg had five set-points going to 4-6,6-3,6-4. Coonors screams out after one winning backhand from Borg "C'mon! You have practiced!" but Connors saved to 5-5 and Borg started to get unfocused with many errors finishing 4-6,6-3,5-7,3-6.

    Another wacky memory is on the ALL STAR GAME in 83 Borg also, of course, the moment where you from 15m distance should throw a tennisball bullseye on a dart-board as often as possible in 10 tries. If bullsye was hit a beautiful girl sitting on ledge would fall down in a huge transparent water-filled tub! Sexist? I know! Borg sunk the poor girl 7 times and as the beutiful woman for the 7th time scrambled up out of the pool with her wet clothes revealing more than family entertainment -- and Borg finally turned to the TV-cameras, smiled the widest grin and let out his toungh far down his chin in a comic-horny manner! It brought down the house with applause from everybody! Except the girl of course...
     
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    yay! a Borg specialist

    ok, so tell me.....the rumors about drug usage? what drugs was Bjorn on?

    what really made him retire?

    did the pressure from the Swedish media from him not winning the US OPEN really push him over the edge?
     
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    I'm going to cannibalize an answer I gave on Youtube:

    Why did Borg quit?

    Complex answer. Boil it down to a still truthful conclusion:

    It was recently revealed in a great in-depth-doc here in Sweden that "he was tired of the whole sh*t" already in the spring of '79. The main reason was in fact that he was so fed up with being pestered by people all over the world. Always scrutinized and his regimen were disciplined as a Navy Seal-soldiers during a mission -- for a full eight years. He was the first true, global superstar of tennis and he lacked the organized team to protect him from unwanted disturbances.

    Only his coach Bergelin shielded him from the massive attention but even that wasn't enough. Today Federer and Nadal have a huge well-paid of teams of experts (from physio-trainers to publicists and security) protecting them almost completely from distractions. Even Sampras and Lendl (those that followed Borg) organized similar structures around their lives which greatly contributed to their sustained careers. Had Borg anticipated this problem, say in 1974, he surely would've had a won more Slams. It's a pity because he was still getting better at 25. Look at some of his great exxo's against Mac and Jimbo in 1982 and 1983. He sometimes averaged 20 aces in a few matches, hitting winners all over the place and starting to slice his backhand with one hand!

    He was contractually obligated since 1979 (courtesy of Bob Kain, his feverishly diligent agent) to play at certain booked dates even so far as in the future as 1984!

    So he was forced to play these exxo's basically, only like 10-15 matches a year up until 1985 -- but this melancholy and frustrating end to the brightest tennis-career (in terms of winning percentage at such a still young age) in history shouldn't really induce any real regrets. Borg himself rightly stated that the record he already had achieved at 25 and the fact that he had singel-handedly transformed tennis from one of the more popular sports in the western world to one of the most popular and well-paid global sports on the planet in just a few years: "One must be mad to feel any disappointment".

    He made it to four US OPEN-finals! That's nothing to sneeze at. Even in defeat he's still an absolutely awe-inspiring example of what we as human beings actually are capable of doing.

    As far as Borg's drug-use? I guess only Borg, Vitas Gerulaitis and a few others probably know for sure -- and I don't want to be sued or insult my greatest idol -- but from what I've deducted from a huge amount of reasonbly reliable sources is this: Borg smoked cigarretes and drank alcohol a few times year -- like binge-partying, and from what I heard "a modest amount of cocaine" around the Studion 54 scene with Vitas. Borg was extremely disciplined so this was at the most a very few times a year.

    After he quit I guess this frequency of partying increased somewhat. One must realize that Borg had never had an ordinary teenage phase in life -- like you or I -- where we were allowed to make mistakes. Borg thought "the tennis circus" strangled his life so the quitting came as a rebellion to this.

    Though Borg's drug-use was never, from what I hear, in a league with Rolling Stones, Hendrix, Elvis or Whitney Houston et al. But with crooks like Lars Skarke creating chaos in his affairs and his confusion in finding a balanced place outside his outrageously successful tennis-career contributed to what seems to be a depressed state. Borg was tired of his tennis-image -- it stood him up to here. That's where the sleeping pill situation developed although I firmly believe the episode was exaggerated.

    Borg searched back to his roots to find harmony with tennis again. He didn't pursue "a real comeback" at the early 90's as some seem to believe. There wasn't a real "senior tour" at the time and Borg just felt he wanted to "play for the fun of it" and everybody thought he was set to be serious again. Which is not true. Bergelin and Borg knew that for a serious comeback he had to practice a lot more. He just played for fun.

    And the selling "The Throphies-story" is also greatly misunderstood. Borg wasn't broke. Far from it. But he's just a complex personality. You have to understand that he doesn't take so much pride in displaying these trophy's to everybody. He has his own memories and had actually hid all his trophy's in his garage. he thought maybe some great fan (would appreciate it more -- some institution maybe). I guess if you been to the moon more than a few times you don't have to display "moon-rocks" to everybody around you all the time.

    And Borg wasn't stupid or simple-minded. He was extremely intelligent, having almost top grade's in all subjects school. You can hear, during Ashe's interview with him after Wimby 81 SF, how fine, complex and detailed his analysis of match was that he just finished. Problem was that he finished school after the 9th grade at 15 to be the best tennis-player in the world. One must realize that a person who was robbed of high-school and university studies doesn't have the vocabulary as, say, Evelyn Waugh.

    More questions!?
     
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    Borg also posed in a commercial reading a comic-magazine featuring sports for kids (with the goal of getting you kids into sports) and that was interpreted by ignorent people as "the tennis genius reads kids comic-books". The "idiot-savant" angle sells a lot of copy you know.

    Print the legend and all that. Stanley Kubrick also suffered from this syndrome of bad reporting.
     
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    And, apparently, Vitas smuggled in a large bag of coke to Borg's marriage in Bucharest, Romania to Mariana Simionescu -- Vitas goes "look at this guy's -- it's gonna be a marriage for the ages!" wherewith Ilie Nastase flipped:"Are you nuts Vitas?! You dare bring this in Romania? It's a communist country! If they (the police) just get a whiff (pun intended) of this they lock you in and throwaway the key!". True story... He-he...
     
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    Nice write up. Borg is kind of before my time but I have always admired his super star charisma. I know a lot of people would have a different opinion but to me nobody come close to Borg's status until Sampras came by. Of course Federer's got it as well. I wonder if Nadal can be like that by 25.
     
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    I'll add some other observations about Borg's US Open experience later on -- but just a short, interesting fact about the man's name. In Swedish Björn Borg sounds quite cool. Björn is the Swedish word for Bear. And Borg is the Swedish word for fortified castle or fortress. Bear Fortress -- Björn Borg.

    Certainly fits his playing style...
     
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    And Borg used the wear a T-shirt with the classic text printed on:

    "Never love a tennis-player. To him love means nothing."
     
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    Really?? In english?

    Do u have a pic of he wearing the t-shirt? :shock:
     
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    I'll check about the photo of Borg wearing the T-shirt. I think a have one.

    Until then -- and my soon to post update about Borg and US Open -- I've posted the first of five videos of fascinating Borg matches on Youtube.

    First out is four blissful minutes of high-lights from Borg's mauling of Tanner in the Wimby SF from the tropically hot summer of 1976.

    Borg sawed off Tanner, who had out-served Connors in three straight in the QF, with his own game -- out-serving Tanner, who probably was the fastest server in the late 70's. I'll only include a few aces and other moments that characterized the match.

    So sink back in your favourite couch with the beverage of your choice and enjoy Borg in his best form -- according to his coach Lennart Bergelin.
     
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    i met mr borg so i'd like to add something here. i had just played tennis at Pepperdine near where i live (you often see greats playing there). afterward, i went with my friend to the Santa Monica Mall to grab a coffee, next to the Promenade. as we walked from the food court into the main mall, there was this tall, fit, long haired very stylish guy, nice wool slacks and a silk shirt, with a gorgeous equally tall woman. she looked like a bond girl, seriously. even in this area, this was a good-looking pair of people, and that's what caught my attention. in less than a second i said to my friend "holy (&#! it's bjorn borg!" and as the woman entered a jewelry store and left him to wait, i abandoned my friend and approached borg, offering my hand. i gushed for a moment. HE COULD NOT HAVE BEEN NICER! i can't express how nice this man was. softly spoken, quiet, almost shy, very pleased with what i was saying. he is much more striking looking in person than he appears on television; this man stands out even in a pretty crowd.
     
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    Soon up on Youtube:

    The first third (7 minute) high-lights from Borg's legendary exxo vs John McEnroe at AKAI Gold Challenge in Sydney in november 1982...
     
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    Now this is a great thread. Thanks for posting!
     
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    Looking forward to seeing more. Borg looks as great as ever here.

    I recall shortly after retiring Borg wound up doing commentary for the 1983 Roland Garros and was in the booth (don't recall the network) for the final too.

    He should have been winning that event! But he seemed so content not playing...:(
     
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    Yeah, RG 83 had his stamp on it. And according to sources he didn't do that well as a commentator -- being naturally shy around people he didn't know very well...

    I am uploading the other clips right now. Takes ages...
     
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    Hi Borgforever, thanks for making such a great thread! Like many people, unfortunately Borg was before my time but I've always been really taken by him. He seems to have this mystique surrounding him, almost as if he's more than a tennis player. You mention his navy seal-like training regimen. I'm wondering if you could perhaps give a detailed account of his daily or weekly regime and his diet? Thanks very much and keep up the interesting posts!
     
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    Sure, thanks...

    Usually up at 7 polishing off 2-2,5 hours of tennis-practice, relax during noon followed by another 2-2,5 hours of tennis-practice in the afternoon -- mostly seven days a week. His discipline was absolute -- believing deeply that a perfect record of practice gives loads of confidence. Which it did. He always kept his match weight 72 kg perfectly -- not an ounce more or less... He felt he didn't bounce correctly in his movements if the weight was even just slightly off.

    He usually focused on lots of vegetables, sallads, and different meat-recipes -- often quite spicy. As far as I know not a lot of pasta or bread.

    Borg believed in focusing on the next point -- no matter what has just happened. You always had to fight to forget disturbances.

    He practiced concentration every day -- knowing that a calm demeanor always helped because it's true that anger and frustration clouds your judgement and clouds your thinking. Even a completely false calmness will usually help you sooner to ride out a potential storm (see Borg's demeanor during the first set of Wimby 1980 final).

    He was a great believer in that you can develop every side of yourself. You must remember that he behaved like McEnroe here in Sweden when he was in his early teens and got suspended from tennis for six months.
    So he decided to practice calmness and look what happened?

    He was also he very good physical specimen. His father was one of Sweden's best ping-pong-players and he ran and played tennis to an unprecedented degree. When he was as young as 11-12 he did stamina-training every day.

    Does that answer your question? I can delve deeper into the issue if you want...?
     
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    If you have more information I'd definitely be interested. I find all of this type of thing very interesting. Thanks very much!
     
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    any chance we get those videos in downloadable link...


    ps: dont know if forum rule allow that. anyone?
     
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    A great viewing. Borg was better than Federer, period. Just dominating Mac on a fast surface. This speaks volumes and it wasn't the first time.

    I've never seen a better mover. I've never seen a tennis player who was more flexible, more elastic.
     
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    I guess I must confess to having Borg as GOAT. The mental ability, his complete dominance on clay (I don't see anybody touching him on clay -- not Laver, no Gonzales, no Fed, no Nadal) and this "en-tout-cas"-master had four US Open finals (on different surfaces), six straight Wimby-finals (under tougher circumstances: faster court, great rivals etc.) and two straight Masters-titles in the Garden. Sounds like a GOAT to me.
     
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    Wow! S & V tennis from Borg, and he passes Mac with ease: he could do it all!
     
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    If you watch this to the end, a young Lendl also appears in the awards ceremony standing next to Borg behind the speaker.
     
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    In an hour or so you'll see the middle segment of the AKAI-showdown.

    And in this clip, note the second serving from Borg. They're quite heavy.

    A little later I'll upload a few moments from Borg's exxo in Richmond, VA on July 28th 1982 against Jimbo (which the latter won).
     
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    Before I finally get into Borg's US Open experience I just have to relay another crazy, true story that was revealed in the 3-hour doc about Borg that was shown here in Sweden a couple of years ago.

    In 1972 -- just before Borg's first amazing Davis Cup-match -- Lennart Bergelin was the national team coach and Björn wanted a place on the team and he played qualifying match against the Swedish number one at the time Ove Bengtsson and lost big time. Bergelin then decided that Borg wasn't good enough -- a fact that didn't fall well the 15-year-old Borg who totally flipped screaming at Lennart, who threw a package of tennisballs at Björn and started chasing him all over the centre court at Båstad. All hell broke loose and this whole incident had to "swiped under the carpet".

    Then they went out together (Borg and Bergelin) on an hilarious impromptu press-conference downplaying the conflict completely. They showed this interview on the doc and both of them can just barely keep themselves from bursting out laughing. "No, no conflict has ever occurred!" they both insisted with the corners of their mouths twitching. And Bergelin had now changed his mind as well -- Borg was on the team subsequently meeting Onny Parun (an experienced and very competent pro at the time) and in typical fashion Borg won that match although he was under 0-2 in sets.

    He foreshadowed things to come...
     
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    Aight...

    First up as a fotnote -- as many of you already know -- Borg beat Lendl at AKAI in 1982 with 6-1,6-4,6-2...

    Borg's US Open adventure began in 1972 when Borg was just 16 and the grass courts at Forest Hills was Björn's first real big time Grand Slam senior event -- a fact that is unknown to many people including the ATP site.

    In R1 Borg clashed with the old ace Roy Emerson who beat the long-haired youngster with 7-5,6-7,6-4,6-4. Not much to add other than the detail that later in 72, in New York R2, were Pancho Gonzales met the young Borg and executed him (6-1,6-1).

    In US Open 1973 Borg did very well beating Arthur Ashe in R3 but losing to Nikki Pilic in R4. And Borg almost turned around 0-2 against Vijay Amritraj before losing 3-2. Borg said Vijay was just too strong that day and it was a great win for him.

    The 1975 US Open was a great disappointment to Borg. He played very well although he had several criticisms toward the special green clay that they had changed to from the grass. But that was nit-picking compared to Borg's big psychological hang-up towards Jimmy Connors. At the time everybody feared Jimbo, who blasted everyone with his rocket groundies, and it was only Ashe's brilliant unpredictable "soft" strategy in Wimby that year that proved seriously effective.

    So Borg tried to do exactly the opposite of what he used to play -- chippin' and dinkin' Jimbo. But that seriously back-fired on him when Jimbo just flattened Borg in three straight in the semis. Orantes then did that exact same thing -- but better than Borg -- in the final beating Jimbo 3-0.

    In 1976 Borg was mature to win the US Open. After he had rested and cured his pulled stomach muscle (that occured during Wimby 76) he wasn't really as good as he was at Wimby but he wasn't that bad either. He survived two tough five-setters (Gottfried and Orantes) and steamrolled Nastase 3-0 on his way to the 76 US Open final with Jimbo waiting on the other side of the net.

    Bergelin didn't start to become Borg's full-time coach until AFTER US Open 76. If you watch that final you see Borg, during the first 1 and a half sets, staring slightly upwards toward his right side on crucial points. Borg was seeking eye-contact with Lennart at those moments.

    Lennart had convinced Borg that he was faster than Connors and that he could match him blow-for-blow with his groundies from the back of the court. Borg was still suspicious about this. Jimbo played really well at the start and won the first 6-4 and when Borg was in trouble at the beginning and Borg was looking to Lennart for the agreed signal that he should start the chip and dink-show since the blow-for-blow tactic simply wasn't working.

    But Lennart didn't give the signal. He urged Björn on to continue the groundie slug-fest. Which Borg did -- and lo and behold -- things started to turn around to Jimbo's dismay. Borg had four set points in the third set but Jimbo played great and took the title in four. Björn said many times that he should've won that match. He hesitated on all the set points and promised himself that that would never happen again against Connors and he was convinced that he had found the winning formula.

    I mean losing to a certain player a lot doesn't mean that they are better than you. At the end of 1976 Borg was 1-6 in matches against Jimbo, who was himself 3-14 (!) against Nastase, who was only ahead 7-5 against Borg. Nastase was 7-9 against Tom Okker, who was 2-4 against Borg... (to be continued)
     
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    I must correct myself that IN 1974 Borg almost turned around 0-2 against Vijay Amritraj before losing 3-2.
     
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    Any chance you could upload a small portion of that video where he says that to youtube for posterity sake and because most people believe he never was interested in re-entering tennis after he walked away losing that gs final to McEnroe.

    And thank you for contributing and posting these things. Absolutely beautiful thread.
     
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    Okey -- but before I continue on with Borg and the US Open I must digress a little into a slight GOAT debate -- Borg vs Laver, who was the better of the two?

    Of course we will never know that. But let's have some debating fun here. In my mind (fantasies?) the decider between these two was the WCT semifinal of 1975 that the ATP site has screwed up as well -- it wasn't a four set match -- it went the full five monty. And there's my deciding score on the question between these two serious GOAT contenders.

    Back in 1975-76 Borg himself said that this was his best match. Bergelin was firm in his opinion that Borg in Wimby 76 was the best but he didn't see Borg play at the Moody Coloseum, Texas where this classic encounter took place. And Borg had idolized Laver greatly (like everybody else) had had directly imitated Laver's "poker-faced"-attitude.

    Both players were handicapped in certain fascinating ways at this time: Borg not having truly reached his full bloom and lacked the seasoned steely experience that Laver had in spades plus that the match was played on a fast surface -- in Rod's favour. But Rod was past his prime so both had plus and minuses in the balance.

    But Laver really longed for a WCT victory and had really put in the effort to remedy this.

    Borg said that he didn't feel he could beat Laver here -- not even when he felt he played the best tennis of his life and won the first set. Borg said he was satisfied with his game but Laver was unstoppable in the second and third -- playing at the top of his power and he seemed to be on the highway to the final against Ashe whom he always had dealt with easily and had a devastating win-loss record against.

    But Borg was Bear Fortress and yanked the initiative away from the Rockhampton Rocket in the fourth with -- according to witnesses and myself -- some really stunning duels. Borg was up 5-2 in the fourth when the Laver struck back with marvelous, angled attacks and killer volleys. The old master broke back -- twice.

    So it was 5-5.

    Borg thought Laver showed signs of getting slightly tired and he didn't feel any energy dip at all -- although Laver had made Björn run like greyhound all night.

    Borg was aggressive and broke Laver -- 6-5!

    But...

    Laver whipped several untouchable returns and broke back...

    Tie-break. The audience was boiling with excitement around them. It looked bleak for Borg but he re-focused and blazed through the tie-break 7-2. And now Laver suddenly started to look his age.

    But Laver started the fifth by breaking Borg directy. But Borg broke back. But Laver again broke Borg's serve to 2-1. Which Borg fought like mad to equalize yet again and he did. 2 all.

    The spectators were howling with delight over the amazing play and seven service-breaks in a row. Borg did his utmost to hold serve to 3-2, increased pressure to break to 4-2, went for aces to 5-2 and closed it out at 6-2 after four hours and four minutes of the most intense play one could imagine.

    7-6,3-6,5-7,7-6,6-2!

    "What an unbelievable match! Laver played brilliantly but still succumbed to Borg, who's performance was absolutely fantastic" exclaimed Lew Hoad afterward.
     
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    "Any chance you could upload a small portion of that video where he says that to youtube for posterity sake and because most people believe he never was interested in re-entering tennis after he walked away losing that gs final to McEnroe.

    And thank you for contributing and posting these things. Absolutely beautiful thread."


    The interview in question was newspaper-interview. I have an enormous amount of Borg-stuff but over 70% of it (all the news-paper clippings and books) are in storage. In a few weeks I can maybe dig it up, scan it in and post it. It's in Swedish though but the huge photo on one side shows Borg lying outstretched in a wide sofa with the TV-screen in front were you can clearly see it's Wimby 82 with Mac and Jimbo (which was one of the best matches I've seen also actually -- a real knockout -- anyone agree?)
     
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    Thanks for the site with the clips. It's great, though sadly I can't save the clips nor really understand them as they are in Swedish.

    I did manage to find some background on the two kids who got to hang out with Borg at Stockholm in '78. The boy was a tennis prodigy who would end up a fairly well-known jazz artist, while the girl still plays tennis apparently. Interesting.

    There is also some promise of a Borg-Barthes clip, which I could never open. That's a shame and would have been nice. I notice that there don't seem to be any clips of Bjorn in his first three RGs anywhere and I don't have many matches from those years. Hopefully some day they show up.

    That site also has some exo results that I haven't seen anywhere else. They're unconfirmed, but it appears that Bjorn dropped a couple of matches to Vitas over the years in exo events. That's also interesting.
     
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    I read an article on the Borg-Laver US Open match (75) which was written by a journalist (SI, I think) who sat in the stands with Don Budge and another former star (forget whom). Budge kept saying how had he been playing he would have coming in to cut off Borg's topspin groundstrokes. He was a bit critical of Bjorn's style and in general of the game at the time.

    But, of course, this was before Borg's net game really took off.
     
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    You mean you can't open any clips from RG on that site CyBorg?

    You couldn't watch the clips from Borg-Vilas RG 75? Or the three ca 6 minute clips from Borg-Orantes RG 74? Or the ca 10 minute clip of Borg-Solomon RG SF 74?

    They're all there. And also a clip from the Jauffret-five-setter from RG 76... They're quicktime as far as I can see...

    Please respond...
     
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    I hate quicktime - it screws up my computer. I have two media players and when I get quicktime I get all kinds of problems with these players interfering with one another.

    *sigh* I might experiment with this later...
     
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    Yeah, Budge was tough on 70's tennis and he was right in his assertion than one should attack Borg intensely to break his rythm. But I would've loved to see Budge meeting Borg at RG. My estimation is that he would've looked as deflated as Mac does at AKAI when the passing shots never stops whistling by him. I'm certain that meeting Borg on any surface would've been like playing the devil himself in hottest hell...
     
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    If I get ambitious I may tranform the clips and post them on Youtube. Especially the RG 75 final were Borg sport a wine-red T-shirt in a match that was practically a copy of the RG 78 final...
     
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    And feel free to ask me specifically about certain stuff that's written or said in swedish and I'll translate it for you quite quickly.

    I've submitted that I will answer questions as best I can so -- shoot!
     
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    Yeah - I've seen fragments of the 75 match before and Borg's red shirt. I would be particularly interested in seeing the SF match with Panatta actually. Seemed more competitive than the final.
     
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    Not to take anything away from Panatta (the only player who could threaten Borg on clay) but Borg was really weak -- serving really bad, no initiative AT ALL -- letting Panatta into the net like Noah-Wilander. Borg said he played really bad and Panatta was way better. But Borg had aldready decided it was impossible to win RG and Wimby the same year. And he wanted Wimby way more at the time. After smashing Vilas in 75 Borg wasn't that horny on another RG-title clearly aiming for an early Wimby 76 serve-practice start...
     
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    And Panatta was no wimp. On his day he could produce miracles. I once dated a beutiful italian lady who had been Panatta's girlfriend and she said his discipline sucked. Something Borg confirmed. Panatta pushed Borg severely in Rome 78 but should've won that match in four at least.

    I mean when the spectators started to throw coins at Borg to disturb him, I don't understand why Borg didn't just leave...
     
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    Actually I meant their semifinal match in '75. It was really close, that one.
     
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    Well, once he left he never did come back.

    Your knowledge is really nice to have here, btw. What do you know about Borg's participation in some of the events not marked down on atp's website?

    For example, Bjorn's first won event was Helsinki sometime in 1973, which is a bit of a mystery - as well as Borg's final opponent; a complete unknown. Borg also played tons and tons of 'exos' in subsequent years, particularly in '79. What do you know about those?
     
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    Tennis hero, there were many factors that pushed Borg towards quitting, but ultimately Mcenroe was the final straw. Borg knew that he his run at #1 was at an end. Borg was intensely competitive despite his cool exterior. #1 was all that mattered to him. Had Mac not come along, Borg would have continued playing and racking up slams.
     
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