Blake racquet at Indian Wells?

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  1. Harry_Randle

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    Hi everyone,

    What racquet is Blake using? I know that he went to heads main office in Kennelback a couple of months ago?

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    Harry.
     
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  2. hcb0804

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    The black paint on it is scraped off so much, I can see Dunlop coming thru under the paint. He is using his same old Dunlop. He also continues to wear BC II shoes with black duct tape over the swooshy. Pretty sad Fila cannot make him a shoe that's worth a crap.
     
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  3. TennisNewb

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    I like that the commentators were just talking about how he has been looking around on **** and going to the restaurants to see if he could buy back his old frames that he has given away over the years becaues he hates the "feel" of the new dunlops.

    I can just imagine owning my own restaurant and a pro coming in to see if they could buy back their old racquet. I would just give it to him.
     
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  4. The Baseline

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    you've got to be kidding me! if you saw blake come in, you would be in awe. you dont have more power than he does.
     
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  5. Ronaldo

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    This must not be a stock Dunlop. Someone speculated it is really a Wilson PS 4.2 95 but that can be found on ****.
     
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  6. vsbabolat

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    It is not a Wilson PS4.2. It is the same mold as the 300 TOUR with a custom layup.
     
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  7. sureshs

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    It is a Blaked-out frame LOL
     
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  8. Ronaldo

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    But the 300 Tour mold is the same as the Technifibre 335, diff layup. Not sure if the old Wilson mold was used for other racquets.
     
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    how much you think he pay for one of his frames that I have?
     
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  10. AlpineAce

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    I think its funny, I mean heres the parallel, He wont change his racket just like he wont change his game= Losing

    Hes one of those guys that says everything else is the problem before HE is the problem.

    Blake=Insane (doing the SAME thing, and expecting a different result!)
     
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  11. Gemini

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    I'll agree with that.
     
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    Me too. Blake is a sponsorship disaster, and really making himself out to be a joke in the twilight of his career. Some Swansong...
     
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  13. TennisNewb

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    Not sure what you mean by your post. If he or any other pro walked into my restaurant and said may I have my racquet back, I'd say sure...can you sign this picture?!?! :)
     
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  14. baseline_monster

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    I actually admire him for using what he likes and not just taking the money to not happy with his gear. Granted he is being paid but then again, Fila should be able to make him a decent shoe and on the racket front, he is using a blacked out frame, some one like Davydenko is the worst example of a disaster.
     
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  15. The Baseline

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    thats what i mean......
     
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  16. vsbabolat

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    Blake, Haas, and Berdych all used the same mold while with Dunlop with their own layups. It is the same mold as the 300 TOUR. Dunlop Originally developed this mold in about 1995.

    Fish while with Dunlop, Robredo, and J.Murray are using the copy of the Wilson PSC 95 MOLD.
     
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  17. The Baseline

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    Did the Berd Man really use a dunlop mold when he was with dunlop?
     
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  18. vsbabolat

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    Yes he did. There is great thread with photos of his frame comparing it to the Dunlop 300 TOUR. Same exact MOLD.
     
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  19. Ronaldo

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    Ty, JB's problem is finding the original layup? Or finding one that plays like his 15 yo beaters?
     
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    Its an old Kneisel dipped in egyptian magical black paint.
     
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    probably it was intially finding the layup, but now that those two frames he has have been strung probably hundreds of times, the graphite may be breaking down and giving it a softer feel that he can't find, even in Kennelbach. I had some hope when he tried the BLX tour 90, but he quickly gave up on it.
     
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  22. vsbabolat

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    Yeah JB's problem is that he can't find a layup he likes. He travelled last fall to Kennelbach, Austria to have HEAD make him the exact racquet he wants which they did. They had made 11 different frames with his mold to test out and give feed back. JB told them what he wanted and they gave him just that. Now those frames HEAD made for JB are no longer any good. Imagine if he used those specially made Kennelbach HEAD frames against Roddick today JB would have lost.;)

    Here is the article of JB travelling to Austria to get his racquets made:
    Blake felt the time might be right, and agreed to the proposal. On his way from the US to the Stockholm Open, James and his coach started the testing programme in Kennelbach. During his visit, the personable American took advantage of the chance to meet with HEAD technicians, see how the racquets are manufactured and generally get a feel for the company.

    From the initial development stage of inputting his personal data into the computer to the drafting of technical specifications for production of his new racquet, Blake asked his questions and was given detailed explanations about the entire process. He was impressed with what he saw and learned. "I never thought what effect even small changes in the structure of the racquet can have," he said.

    The player spent four days in Kennelbach taking every opportunity to test various racquet configurations. The first session began with 11 models of different weights, balance points and flexibility. From this group, he selected three prototypes which were revised overnight and ready for more testing the next day. In three other testing sessions Blake played the potential racquets under competitive conditions, which brought further insights.

    The player departed for Stockholm with three models for further use and evaluation this week at the IF Stockholm Open. And one of those three new sticks could already be his secret weapon after a first round upset of Brazilian seventh seed Thomaz Bellucci in a three-set comeback and quarterfinal as final result.

    "It was inconceivable for me to find a racquet in three days, which corresponds to the way I play and the way I move," said an amazed Blake, who could barely contain his praise of the technical wizards in Austria. "What the HEAD team has managed is really incredible. I have full confidence in them."


    http://www.head.com/tennis/news.php?region=eu&id=738
     
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  23. Cup8489

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    I really hope Blake can pull it together.. I love watching him play and it sucks to see him faltering like this..

    I'm even altering my forehand to hit it more in the way he does in order to unleash some of the power potential of my PSLs.....idk why people say it's low powered... the MG Radical I have is definitely less powerful and has less spin as well..

    why do people say you can't play the modern spin game with these racquets? they promote so much racquet speed it's ridiculous..
     
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  24. Bartelby

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    So does anyone use the current Bo 200 mould and did anyone use the previous mould of the 200?

    And is the 300 tour mould is different from the tfifght 320 and 335 racquets?

    TW testers seem to love the 300 tour mould if not the layup it comes with. Do you have any insights into its 'uniqeness'?

    Thanks.





     
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  25. vsbabolat

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    The only change to the mould of the 200 was with the bridge. Which is what the HotMelt 200 and M-Fil 200 used. I don't know of anyone off the top off my head that is using a 200.

    The Tfight 320 and 335 mould is very similar to the 300 Tour.

    Here is the old Berdych Dunlop frame and the 300 Tour retail. Same mould.
     
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  26. The Wreck

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    Blake's rackets from another thread in the stringing section. Another member, Drakulie, worked the Delray tourney and took some pics. Frames looks like they're blacked out only because he's played with them for 7 or 8 years!

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  27. vsbabolat

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    You can see on one frame that the HotMelt 300 paint job they put on it is coming through and the AG 200 paint job on the other is coming through. It looks like they used stencil ink to cover the frames. Now compare those frames with these:
    All have the same mould.
     
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  28. Bartelby

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    I think TW should get his spec and send Blake along a dozen 300 tours with a TW paintjob - the Edwards' Special.
     
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  29. laboule

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    I think he just want's to keep playing his Dunlops until they break so he can get it out of his system so to speak. Then he can start playing with a new frame or the ones Head made for him without thinking WHAT IF I had my old frames...
     
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  30. vsbabolat

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    It's a good thing that Blake used those old beat up Dunlops. Imagine if he used those Special HEAD racquets he traveled all the way to Austria to have made to his spec. Blake would have not been able to hold serve twice. He would have lost O and O using his HEAD racquet not 2 and 0 with the Dunlop.:evil:
     
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  31. VGP

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    No, just 2 and 0.
     
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  32. vsbabolat

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    Yeah 2 and 0 with his old beat up Dunlop but O and O if had dared to use the special HEAD racquet he travelled to Austria to have made to his spec.
     
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  33. AlpineAce

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    to bad they didn't make him a new brain instead!
     
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  34. Fed Kennedy

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    Should have used the Fed racquet, he got 2 sets off delpo with that thing
     
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  35. Jokerulez

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    god bless blake for his HEAD new waepon of choice!
     
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  36. vsbabolat

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    He's not using it though. He decided to stick with his old Dunlop with the black paint coming off reveling very old cosmetics.
     
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  37. Fuji

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    I don't quite understand what his problem is to be honest. Like the guy obviously has some pull and money with racket company's, couldn't he just get the mold used for his Dunlops, and pay to have them remade, if he had to? =/

    -Fuji
     
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  38. vsbabolat

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    He did do that. He went to HEAD in Austria, had them make exactly what he wanted with his mold and now won't use it.
     
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  39. VGP

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    Seems it's not the mold, it's the materials.

    (for sure it's his head)
     
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  40. BDAZ

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    from what people have posted here, it's not a matter of being able to use the same mold, but the layup and/or quality of graphite used to make the racquets (or something like that). i guess the quality of graphite used has gone down in recent years? i mean, look at one of those sticks. HM 300G paintjob. that racquet is 10 years old at this point. sounds like he likes that broken-in feeling that becker used to like in his puma/estusas, and apparently no one can get it right for him. vs is right, heaven forbid he use another racquet. haha. the old ones obviously make a huge difference. what stick has he had the most success with the last 3 years? the BLX six.one tour at the aussie open last year? should stick with that and try to make it work for him. i really like james blake, but this, unfortunately, is starting to get really sad. time to hang 'em up, james.
     
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  41. Ronaldo

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    Dread the day JB finds the original lay-up. Say hello to the next #1. More gas than Gonzo and Del Potro combined.
     
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  42. dave t

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    I don't even remember blake playing a racquet that was not blacked out (besides the 6.1 tour recently). Even in 2005/06, he had blacked out frames. check out that fed shanghai video someone posted.

    One other thing - doesn't blake string at like 75 lbs? Doing that for 10 years has to affect the frames a bit.
     
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  43. vsbabolat

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    [​IMG]

    Blake only had his racquets blacked out when he was with Prince and 2010 and so far in 2011.
     
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  44. Fuji

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    Hmmmm, maybe he should dissect one of his secret frames and find the exact layup of it, and have it remade my the Head Wizards??? I could only see the wear being the thing that he loves. It's hard to get a broken in stick with flexy graphite.

    -Fuji
     
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    sorry pictures didn't show up - a quick google image search "james blake shanghai 2006" shows a lot of different pictures with him using a blacked out racquet during this time period. any idea why?
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  47. VGP

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    That was when he was "trying out a prototype" with Prince.....
     
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    why don't he just go back to dunlop and have them old ones remade instead of going to head, that never made those oldies in the first place?
     
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  49. vsbabolat

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    Because Blake claims that Dunlop and their OEM can't make them right anymore. That is why he went to Austria. To see if he could get HEAD to manufacture them the way he wants. At first he said HEAD git it right. But know I guess he changed his mind since he is using old racquets now.

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=4471983&postcount=1
     
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  50. Cup8489

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    I think what it amounts to is that the frames he's using have had considerable graphite breakdown at this point, but he's used to the feel. Even though the HEAD factory tried to emulate it, the new frames probably felt stiffer anyway, and so ultimately he abandoned the frames.

    I think that may be why he has 2 instead of 3 left; perhaps they dissected one to find the layup of it.
     
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