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  1. Phillip=Tennis guy

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    Will Blake eventually turn into a Roddick???

    You don't lose to a guy who is ranked 92.

    And you are 5th in the world.

    Why do these succesful tennis players lose confidence in a match so fast?

    Blake is a great player but I hope his confidence doesn't slip like Roddicks.
     
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  2. TacoBellBorderBowl1946

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    Safin's not your average 92.......

    He didn't lose confidence, he played his best and got beaten by a player who played beater that day.

    It won't slip, it has no reason to.
     
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    He really should've mentioned this 92 player was Safin....
     
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  4. zhan

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    yeah safin is safin...
    safin can beat roger federer 1 day and lose to an unknown the next...
    basically safin when he is feeling it ... he is pretty damn good
     
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  5. monfils

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    Why don't you become pro and win all the time.:rolleyes: Maybe you could show us how a real pro should perform. i DON'T THINK LOSING TO A TWO TIME GRANDSLAM CHAMPION IS SUCH A BAD THING.
     
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  6. lorenza

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    i dont really think blake lost his confidence. safin is an excellent player and its not like he lost badly. both sets went to a tiebreak- i think that shows his determination. safin was just on last night and when hes on, its pretty hard to beat him
     
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    If Safin is on form, he can beat anyone.
     
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    Everyone has their off days. The top guys today just don't have the dominating games that can hold up amtch after match. I see these inconsistencies all the timein modern tennis.

    I think that there are just so many REALLY GOOD players out there today, it is hard for one to bring the level of their game up to a Federer or Nadal level and dominate everyone in the sport.

    AND, Safin is a loose cannon. He is so streaky that it would be difficult to say that Blake is slipping. Until he loses to me or anyone else onthis board(no offense), let's watch his tennis and trust that he is a world-class player.
     
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    I may be wrong but I think the "ranked 92" comment was tongue in cheek.

    Blake should have probably started pushing because safin loves pace.
     
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    the guy who beat blake is SAFIN... SAFIN..... not just ANOTHER GUY IN RANK 92... safin is one of the best player in atp
     
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    You must be joking. You cannot be this dumb.

    Do you even know who Safin is?
     
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    In all fairness, it's not like Phillip=Tennis guy was lying. The truth is, Marat Safin is ranked number 92 in the world, whether he deserves to be or not.
     
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    haha good one
     
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  14. Phillip=Tennis guy

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    Safin is a used to be good player......thats who he is.
     
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    i would have to agree with you there....your average #92 player doesnt beat both sampras and federer in GS finals...

    hopefully...safin can continue his randomness and be a threat in the US open
     
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    Rankings can be quiet decieving, just look at Davydenko. He massed up alot of points from just playing non-stop.
     
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  17. sinatra161

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    Do you just post these idiotic threads to jack up your post count?Seeing as you have 90 posts in only 4 days of being a member!Or are you really Ignorant on the threads you keep coming up with?Once School starts back up I guess you won't have time to post this much,better do it while you can I guess:rolleyes: .
     
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  18. Phillip=Tennis guy

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    I'm homeschooled.................


    You don't have to reply to my threads.....now do you?
     
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  19. sinatra161

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    How can I not?Every other thread is posted by you!
     
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  20. monologuist

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    there are certain players that match up either particularly well or particularly poorly vs. each other....regardless of ranking. Blake eats up heavy topspin players like Nadal....he has trouble vs. guys who have big second serves that he can't attack as well...he has trouble with slices...Safin loses to players who don't give him any pace or who can change up the pace a lot (he is 2-7 vs. Santoro!)...but he loves it when guys bash it at him. I didn't see tha match, but soemthing tells me that Blake didn't feed Safin a lot of junk balls!...I also can't imagine that Balek has a chance to hit too many second serve return winners against Safin,as he has been apt to do of late.
     
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    bro Safin has one of the best two handers in the world. He's more talented than Blake and like everyone's saying can beat Fed and Nadal except on clay when hes on...................If playing well at the Open Nadal or Fed may have their hands full since he has the ability to overpower either on that surface.
     
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  22. Phillip=Tennis guy

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    Sinatra,

    Get used to it. Thats all I can say.
     
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  23. Feña14

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    Yep I've got a feeling about Safin for the US Open. It will be just typical of him to go and win it after having an awful year where his confidence has basically just been non existent.

    I don't think there can be too many arguments in saying he is the second most naturally talented player in the game, after Federer. He seems to be just peaking at the right time for the Masters Series' and the US Open and I for one will be hoping for him to do well.

    The game needs you Marat!!!
     
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  24. sinatra161

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    Articulate as usual!
     
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  26. superman1

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    It will be good news if he starts playing well because Safin is a guy that could come up from behind Federer and Nadal when they're not looking and break them both into pieces. It's a shame that such a great player has had so many downs. But just because his ranking is low doesn't mean he has lost it. He has had a bad knee injury for a long time and it's only now gotten better. He skipped the US Open, skipped the Australian, lost 1st round in the French to Gonzo. What do you expect his ranking to be?
     
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  27. Phillip=Tennis guy

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    Yeah.......thats true.

    IDK about the come up and break Federer and Nadal thing cause that ain't true.

    But he could become 3rd.
     
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    safin no doubt is one of the best.... he can beat anyone including fed... so, it is not surprising that he beats blake..... much more to come.....
     
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  29. superman1

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    Yeah, he'll never be ranked #2 or #1 ever again his career, he just isn't consistent enough to do that. But what I meant is that if Federer or Nadal draw Safin early in a Slam, he could definitely pull off the upset and end up winning the whole thing.
     
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  30. bagung

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    safin will "eat" federer alive
     
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  31. Phillip=Tennis guy

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    bagung.........when is he gonna do it.......oh wait....he hasn't and ain't going to.
     
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  32. Feña14

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    He went toe to toe with him at the Australian Open in 2005 and did pretty well I seem to remember.

    As for Safin and Nadal, well that would be very interesting. Marat is a tall man so maybe the high spin wouldn't affect him too much, also I can't see Nadal being too fond of dealing with the big serves or the serious pace that Safin produces from the ground.
     
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  33. Phillip=Tennis guy

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    2005..........how about 2006.
     
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  34. Feña14

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    True but it's Safin who's been injured.

    One day he could lose to the world number 500 odd as he did last week, then next week he goes and beats the world number 5.

    You never know with Safin, he's won a few matches this week and now people are starting to say he is back. That's understandable as he had no confidence so now he has some wins under his belt he is ready for anyone.

    There wouldn't be too many people who would be totally surprised if he won the US Open.

    Form is temporary, class is permanent.
     
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    Safin will have to be on fire to beat Nadal. If he's missing, he has no chance. If he's crushing the ball, Nadal will be out in straight sets. It's not the spin but the fact that Nadal gets everything back that will frustrate Safin.
     
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  36. bagung

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    you forgot how safin "eat" federer alive in australian semi final????? safin did, and will do it again and again......:mrgreen:
     
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  37. Phillip=Tennis guy

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    Yeah but a guy who isn't consistant is not gonna beat the worlds #1 okay.

    Actually blake isn't consistant.
     
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    Safin has beaten Federer before, so I don't quite get the first bit? :confused:

    Your right about Blake though, his performance against Mirnyi at Wimbledon was very strange.

    I suppose not knowing what to expect from them makes them all the more exciting, same for me and Verdasco, I love his game and his forehand so end up watching him make 10 stupid errors just to see that one blistering winner that he pulls out of nowhere.

    It add's a bit of intrigue to matches I find :)
     
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  39. Phillip=Tennis guy

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    In 2005. Diffrent Federer.

    Lets see him beat the 2006.
     
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  40. Feña14

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    Hmm I don't see too much difference between Federer this year and last year.

    He still seems to beat everyone, lose to Nadal sometimes.

    The only difference I see is that he doesn't come to the net as much as he used to.

    I'm sure next time Safin plays Federer he won't be blown away by a player who has improved out of sight.
     
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  41. Phillip=Tennis guy

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    ....................

    no comment... :p
     
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  42. bagung

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    Fed Is Still Fed, No Difference...... Seems Like Only Nadal Can Beat Fed... And Now Safin Is Back, So Beware Fed, Your Nightmare Is Comming
     
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  43. Phillip=Tennis guy

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    he isn't back! He is just getting that feeling of what inconsistancy does to a person.

    Ups and downs.
     
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  44. shawn1122

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    You people are all crazy?

    Head to Head, Federer is up 7-2, with Federer winning their last match at Halle (the final) on grass in straight sets.

    Federer does not lose easily, and during the Aussie Open semifinal in 2005, he did anything but lose easily. The match ended 9-7 in the fifth. How much closer could a match be? Honestly, these types of matches could have swung either way, and yet everyone exuberently points at this result stating "Safin can beat Federer whenever he wants to." You guys need better evidence than this.

    Yes, Safin may be a giant-killer, but I dont see him beating Federer again and I definitely do not see him beating Nadal (since the defense will frustrate him, causing him to miss a lot more.)

    Safin can have Legg Mason, but if he draws Federer or Nadal at the US Open, then he is the guy that needs to watch out, since he'll probably be making an early round exit.
     
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  45. Phillip=Tennis guy

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    Thank you shawn!!! You rock my friend!
     
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    Except that the Halle match wasn't in straight sets it was a tightly contested 3 setter going Federer's way 6-4 in the third. So case in point, Safin can give Federer problems anywhere and anytime he plays him.
     
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  47. Phillip=Tennis guy

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    ...............

    No comment.
     
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    edit: posted without thinking
     
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  49. Feña14

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    So the last time they played Federer won after the match went the distance. Safin was playing on his worst surface (one that he has previously threatened to never on again as he dislikes it so much) against Federer on his favourite surface.

    Yet it was still tight? Their previous meeting was won by Safin and the one before that involved one of the best Tie-Breaks in history that ended 20-18.

    I see no reason at all why Safin can't beat Federer again.

    As for Nadal, well they have never played so you can't be sure how he would respond so talk about that is just opinion. We have no facts to support either Nadal or Safin.
     
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  50. Phillip=Tennis guy

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    Hahaha. I always do.
     
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