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  1. Rktennis1

    Rktennis1 New User

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    I've been in the market for a two-three year old car to replace my vw jetta. Looking at the bmw 128i and 135i. I've driven the 128i, love it, is the 135idave worth the extra 5k ish. Also, I'm currently in a place where it snows 20 inches a year, but that will hopefully change. How does it do in cold weather? If its super bad....(be honest), I'll probably look at the audi a3 tdi.

    Any owners have any advice, driven them both? What did you think? Thanks.
     
  2. DRII

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    I'm not an owner but I've driven all three models or have friends that have owned them. Depends on what you're looking for. The 128 is plenty fast and fun to drive, the 135 is even faster but its balance is a little worse because of its slightly heavier engine.

    If snow is really an issue, I would spring for the Audi or another car with all wheel drive. Reliability is about the same for Audi and BMW, i.e. slightly worse than industry average, but the satisfaction these cars give their owners usually out weighs higher repair and maintenance costs once the warranty is over.

    Truth be told, my Taurus SHO will beat any of those cars (except the 135), has all wheel drive, twin turbos, and 365 hp. But I get that Ford is not a BMW or Audi in people's eyes...
     
  3. ollinger

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    I owned a rear wheel drive BMW in an area with moderately snowy winters, the car was all but useless in snow even with four Blizzaks on it.
     
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    Get a Tesla. Faster, better on gas, looks cooler, and doesn't require a tune-up every other week. I've had an Audi which needed to be serviced twice a month minimum and a BMW which was much the same.

    EDIT: If you've already got a VW, why not just get a GTi or a Rabbit GLi? Those things absolutely fly.
     
  5. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    That's scary! :shock:

    And it's not like you can put a better winter tire than Blizzaks on a road car...
     
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    you are posting on a tennis board asking for bmw advice....let me go to my bmw board and ask them about my kick serve
     
  7. vsbabolat

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    I think you mean Jetta GLi. The Rabbit is what VW used to call the Golf in the USA.
     
  8. vsbabolat

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    I have owned BMW's in snowy climates. In fact I learned to drive in the snow with a 1987 E30 325. It had no traction control and no limited slip differential to help me. I did just fine with it. The E30 was a very tale happy BMW too.

    Remember that BMW's are from Germany. A country that gets quite a bit of snow. BMW's with rear wheel drive are not the best in the snow and they are not the worst.
     
  9. zapvor

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    lol i like your sig
     
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    I get what you are saying, but a general question like this one is fine on a board like this IMO. The OP gets that we tennis players are a very sensible bunch... :) and they are not asking a deep technical question.

    As to their question, I have driven both of those engine types and own a Z4. The 128 is powerful enough to get you in all manner of trouble on public roads. If you modify your cars and/or autocross, etc. you could go the 135 route.

    20" of snow is a good bit but a rear wheel drive car with good snow tires is OK of course. Like someone else pointed out, BMW is a German car brand and it snows plenty there. A well engineered four wheel drive system with some clearance is a good idea in an area that has a lot of snow, mountainous terrain, and somewhat isolated - but in an urban or suburban environments not a must have. Esp. if you are moving away from the snow, not really an issue.
     
  12. r2473

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    I still drive my 1990 E30 (and it runs great by the way). This thing is basically a death trap on snow. Sand bags help some, but keeping it in the driveway when there is fresh snowfall is really the only way.

    On a side note, I think the box-style BMW's (1991 and before I think) are much better than what they put out after. Mine needs basically nothing and is never fails to run like a champ. I've heard stories about how much maintenance the newer ones need. My wife has an Audi A6 and that POS just need constant maintenance. I have no idea why people like Audi's so much. I'd love to burn my wife's car.
     
  13. DRII

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    Waiting to Exhale...


    LOL
     
  14. krz

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    A friend of mine back home in western NY had a cobb tuned 135i as a winter "beater." 297WHP(Mustang Dyno) with snow tires = perfectly fine.

    So, stock I can't imagine it'd be any worse as long as it had snow tires. 300hp/13.8 isn't slow but, not exactly fast either.
     
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  15. DRII

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    What :confused:

    What kind of speed are you looking for?

    300+ horsepower in car the size of the 1 series is very fast...
     
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    I guess it's all relative. Clearly, I wasn't comparing it to a Honda Civic. The car runs high 13's pretty much on par with all the other sport coupes these days. That being said, my friend had nothing but good things to say about the car. So long as you're not fast and the furiousing around in a blizzard the car will be fine.

    edit: Found the chart to my "fast" car. Keep in mind that is WHP not crank.
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    As long as you have winter tires and common sense, winter driving should not be a problem.
     
  18. vsbabolat

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    In any kind of wet conditions my E30 did not have the best traction. But using common sense, going slowly, and accelerating slowly in the wet or snow with 4 snow tires i never got stuck. Now I never drove the car in a blinding blizzard.

    I have owned E36, E46, and currently driving a E92 since my days with the E30. I have not had any kind of mechanical problems. I have kept my cars on the old school maintenance program from the E30 area. Changing oil every 15,000 miles and lifetime transmission fluid are not good things to lifetime of these cars. I also own a 2008 A6 3.2 Avant. I have had nothing go wrong yet with it.
     
  19. r2473

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    ^^ There's still time to burn your A6 before the problems start :)

    I've taken my car to 3 different mechanics in the past 8 years or so and everyone of them offered to buy my E30 (for far less than it is worth IMO, but still). They all bad-mouthed the newer BMW's (saying that these cars are keeping them in business).
     
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    200K miles on a "newer" model and still purring...
     
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  21. DRII

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    The OP owned VWs. I'm sure he would be acustomed to Audi mechanical problems. VW makes Audi.

    Actually many European models have more mechanical issues than Asian or American brands. But their customer are usually very satisfied with their performance and feel...
     
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    Thanks all. I ended up getting a three year old infiniti g37x. A good compromise.
     
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    Good description. You will do great on all surfaces, I know you'll like it (I can only hope you'll love it...)
     
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    You've already made your decision (and a good one...good luck!) but keep your ears and eyes open for what Chrysler introduces in the next few years...Sergio Marchionne is a genius and has infused that corporation with boundless enthusiasm and the green light to push the envelope on meaningful change. I actually was lucky enough to test drive one of the new Dodge Darts last month...it is exactly what's needed to reclaim the youth market share old stodgy Detroit ignored for decades. As to AWD sedans, the Chyrsler 300 AWD is top drawer, too.

    I am committed to buy American the next time I'm in the market and I intend on rewarding Marchionne for his dedication to reverse the previous decades of error within Chrysler. Anyone that can repay the entire bailout before term and at nearly 20% interest gets my cash infusion ASAP.
     
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  26. DRII

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    Uhm...

    Chrysler really isn't American anymore. Hasn't been since Daimler brought a majority 57% stake in their merger years ago, certainly not now with Fiat owning it.

    and Taurus SHO AWD > Chyrsler 300 AWD :)
     
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    They are all multi-nationals with parts, labor and design originating throughout the world but Marchionne has committed to running the business and doing as much as possible here in the US. That is a big boost to the economy of Detroit and the rest of the Rustbelt.
     
  28. DRII

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    All true, but if your main priority is buying 'American'; there are better choices than Chrysler (namely Ford or GM). Chryselr's corporate profits are technically based in Italy now. This is largely a technicality but its still a distinction.

    Toyota builds more cars in America than Chrysler does...
     
  29. stringertom

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    ^^^If I were a Bud drinker (prefer Yuengling myself and they are America's oldest brewery) I wouldn't have boycotted A-B when the Belgians took over. It's still made in the US. Likewise, for autos, but I would prefer to support the American labels if their products match up to my needs and the quality is comparable. The Dart I tested was right up my alley...affordable, sporty and fuel-efficient. Coming from an older Camaro, I would like a bigger improvement in the efficiency than a new Camaro offers. If I went Ford, I'd have to consider the Fusion but that's a bit pricey vs the Dart.

    Anyway, it's another year or two before my Camaro (which I love) gets mothballed...I'm hoping to restore it eventually. Best car I've ever owned!
     

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