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    I imagine they probably wouldnt want you to do that
     
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    It's a bad idea to enter a relationship already planning how to cheat on the other party.

    General life advice.
     
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    I'd take it in a heartbeat. Give it 6 months and evaluate. Can't imagine being in a pool of the most talented players would be anything less than beneficial.

    That being said, you have to know your kid. Are they open minded enough to change coaches? Will they be home sick? Are they good being a small fish in a big pond? Etc.
     
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    Compared to top level schools the education they receive at USTA HP is dramatically inferior starting in 8th grade. Before that it may be OK. Kids at top high and middle schools are putting in solid 8 hours a day of high level instruction with top teachers and quality study time (subtracted out lunch, study halls, home room, etc). AP US History alone kids spend average of 2 hours a day. USTA HP kids average 3 hours a day combined study and class time. Just not enough time to learn 5 honors and/or AP classes like Pre-Calc, AP English, Lab science etc.
     
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    if your kid is good enough for a free ride from USTA ,why don't you proposition IMG or Macci for a free ride ? that's what I would try to do ..
     
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    you can go to ''Scientology'' for all that ... just kidding.. :)
     
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    Florida is too far away. Maybe LA, but I think I would say no. My wife would definitely say no.
     
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    How to relate to people by home schooling? C'mon man.
     
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    You learn a lot from that.

    Nothing to do with home schooling, you can do all of that if your kid goes to a basic public school.
     
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    I hated high school with a passion,BUT I LOVED college. Im not saying anything is wrong with the way you feel im just sharing with you how i feel about it.
     
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    You are one strange guy... those were the highlights of my life. Only people I knew who hated it were the antisocial ones... the bullied ones.. or the ones that were flunking.

    Whether I learned something or not was another matter.
     
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    Never fudged on your taxes?
     
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    Best post.
     
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    Yes, USTA could careless about their education.
     
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    TCF, in elementary school, they rarely have to sit and listen to teachers. Most of the time they are moving around, doing art projects, or playing outside.
    I understand your reasons for home schooling, but let your child try elementary school, if she doesn't like it, then take her out.
     
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    Looks like you only enjoyed the 2nd part of your life...
     
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    Knowledge of US history is important. What's more important is learning how to read carefully, synthesize material, and think critically. Sure you get some of that in USTA HP schooling, but not enough. Compared to some of the better private high schools: Deerfield, Phillips and public: Stuyvesant, Bronx School Science...well there is no comparison. SAT scores from those schools are exceptional. Don't know what they are from USTA HP but I would want to know before enrolling my kid. I am torn by all this like some of you. The time needed to do well in 6 tough classes makes it very difficult to train and compete in tennis.
     
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    Hmmm interesting... actually I wasn't thinking of it like that. I was thinking more along the lines of childhood and adulthood.
     
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    Yes, tough choice but the first option can never be wrong...
     
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    has your kid been offered to train at USTA and you are deliberating an actual scenario, or a hypothetical one?
     
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    TCF is spot on here , we have homeschool our player since 1st grade and he is quite the player but his most significant compliments have been his manners, his ability to hold great conversations with substance , has solid goals set up for now and the rest of his life, you find 2nd year college kids still looking for a major these day its the majority the others are usually set up for the family business .
     
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    If you are an entrepreneur, you don't have to get a job.
     
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    Just here to say that yes, you need a ton of AP/IB classes to get into top colleges, but for most classes it's nowhere near 2 hours of work per night.

    This is coming from somebody who graduated in 2011.
     
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    In that case, it doesn't hurt to go to school to learn Chinese... ;-)
     
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    the USTA is not supposed to care about education. They better not be wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars on kids to worry about weather they are educated enough. If I was Pmac, I wouldnt want them doing any school at all.

    they are brought there to become tennis players, not to play school
     
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    I don't know if that is good enough to pull down a high paying job.
     
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    One of my sons learned Chinese in the army.

    Going to college can be the best thing in the world if you go with a purpose and learn a useful body of knowledge.

    The problem with college is that many kids go to get a piece of paper, taking whatever subjects are easiest, and partying as much as possible. Then they see when they get out that they are deep in debt and can't get a job with their degree in whatever-it-is-studies.
     
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    That's what happens when they don't take their academics seriously or play too much tennis in high school. They end up at a juco or some party school with low academic standards.

    Said it many times before, high level tennis and high level academics are mutually exclusive. It is a very special kid who tries and succeeds at both in the long run.
     
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    Of course this thread, like most these days, ends up in one of these "beat to death" debates...

    1. Home schooling merits or non-merits
    2. Who your kids can beat
    3. TAUT merits or non-merits
    4. BB's craziness and DB's results/prospects

    Round and round we go...
     
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    Am I missing the humor in your post????
     
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    Coach, it's good he is well mannered and can converse well. That is different from being well educated. I'm sure you realize that the average SAT score in the top high schools is around 2100. Specifically, Stuyvesant's "average" SAT score is 2090. From everything I have heard from college coaches, there is usually 1 or 2 home schooled tennis kids scoring at that level, usually a girl. When it comes to SAT scores kids home schooled for tennis cannot compete with the graduates of the top high schools.
     
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    The problem with the internet is that you don't know if the person is joking or being serious......
    Every student who is a citizen of the United States should be taking AP US History ( APUSH).

    Just to learn in depth about the

    US Constitution and the important Supreme Court cases that have defined our country for starters.
     
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    Well, couple of thoughts:

    One, your high school experience might not mirror her high school experience as you are not the same people.

    Two, elementary school, the earlier grades, is where the kids learn to sit still.
    Yes, it is a process. Most kids learn in nursery school, but it is never too late.

    Three, if you are trying to avoid the mean girls who are into clothing, hanging out at the mall, and stealing each other boyfriends,
    you should look into private schools, the most academic ones.
    Some private schools have a dress code, but more importantly, they have a code of conduct.
    You don't behave, you don't maintain a certain average, you are disrespectful, you are out.
    No contract for the next year.
    The private schools are not beholden to the student and the family, you are beholden to them.
    And the girls won't have time to be mean to each other, they are too busy studying.
     
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    I will be the 1st to tell I am not big on school and I am glad my player takes his time aboutg getting it done , having said that he just finished for a break and ended up holding a 3.9 that included 4 Ap courese and 2 other junk courses and his last 3 test score sent back were all above 90% .

    But remember college is not the goal .
     
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    Out of all the parents on here probably the only kid I would work with is TCF's not because I like him , I find him arrogant but everything he has said about the way he is raising his daughter is at the highest level and that is where its at, how they are progammed from the beginning "at home"and public school seems derail and program attitudes and other things we don't care for as parents .
     
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    TcF your dead wrong that's our problem history repeats itsself whether short term or long term and we don't learn from and our country is a disaster because of it ,example teenage pregnancy ! Don't want to get into it but think of history and all it contains we can learn from from the Romans to the Revevoltions that have taken place .

    History is probably the most important subject for the world to learn from .
     
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    Excuse my confusion but what is a revevoltions (did I spell that right). :confused: I tried dictionary.com and came up with nothing.
     
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    Grades from a home school don't mean much. All the kids I have talked to are above a 3.5, many at 4.0. The key measure to compare is the SAT. The average home school score is 1065, math and reading. Stuyvesant 1400. Laurel Springs does not say what its average SAT is except to say it is over the national average. That is consistent with the 1065, which is over the national average. I believe most hp junior tennis players are bright and could attend a top high school and do well. My point is parents should recognize that when they home school for tennis in the preteen and teen years they are making a choice of tennis over academics. Not saying that is good or bad. Just that this is what the evidence says.
     
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