Body aches - 40+ yr old serve and volley

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  1. tennisdad65

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    I am 42, and just got back into tennis after a 10+ yr break. I have been playing for about 7 months now about 2-3 times a week.

    If I mainly play from the baseline, my body recovers easily in 1 day. Most of the time, I play tennis twice a week on wed & sun only. I recently (1 month) started trying to get back to my serve and volley game.

    However, if I serve and volley, it takes 3-4 days to recover with all sorts of aches and pains :cry: When I serve and volley, I do so on both serves so it takes its toll and my body aches after playing. Most of the time, the aches are in the knees, heel of my right foot, and back.

    My serve power is mainly from knee bend. I do not arch my back now while serving, so I am guessing that the back ache is due to body rotation when comming out of the serve and going up to volley.

    I do cycling, weights, and yoga ~3 days a week specifically to get my body ready for serve and volley.

    Any 'Older' :) guys out here who serve and volley and have tips to stay free off aches and pains?
     
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    Maybe this is too obvioius, but...Why don't you just s&v on the first serve and even, on occasion, stay back on it-just to mix things up. That way, you're putting roughly half the stress on your body. Even Tim Henman and Boris Becker knew enough to stay on the baseline once in a while.

    Doing this would also add some variety to your game and keep your opponent guessing.
     
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    Motrin... 600mg... 90 minutes before you walk on the court...
     
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    I'm your age, I serve & volley a lot, and I also do a lot of the off court stuff that you do - never had better balance than after I took up yoga!

    I don't ride too intensely because I consider it to be maintenance for my tennis, but when I feel really good, I can go faster and/or longer without much of a downside. The riding just doesn't pound on my joints. I also lift more for endurance than specifically for power.

    The thing that I've noticed lately that seems to be contributing to my maintenance has been stretching immediately after I finish playing, even before I get in my car to head home. Along with one more decent session in the evening before I get into bed, this seems to be giving me better recovery. I also try to get a reasonable (and effective!) warm-up so that everything is ready for those bursts that come with serve and volley play. My Dad is an M.D. and he has suggested taking an anti-inflammatory before playing, too. I have good luck with basic asprin and sometimes take it 60-90 mins. before hitting.

    Obviously, if you're carrying any extra weight that you don't need, it's really important to get rid of it if you can. My only other thought is to make sure that your shoes are giving you the right shock absorption and support. When I have bad shoes, MAN I definately feel the penalty in my legs and feet.
     
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    Are you overweight? Do you know your bodyfat percentage?

    But, the bad news is that the older you get the worse it gets. :) Taking the right amount of time off is key. If you are playing serve and volley at a 4.5 or above level, then you SHOULD be very sore.

    After you play or lift, do you eat fairly quickly? I try to down a protein shake, which helps with recovery. I also take cold showers, followed by a warm shower right at the end. Also, get plenty of sleep. If you are stressed from work, family, finances or something, and not sleeping your recovery will be much much slower.

    Good luck!

    -Robert
     
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    Same profile here, though I'm a little younger.
    I've had knee problems but never needed surgery.
    For the basic aches and pains, I just try to drink a lot of water, and I also drink coconut water and aloe vera juice. No ibuprofen at all.

    I find I ache less when I do 45 minutes on the elliptical or on the bicycle in the mornings. Then I stretch my back, hips and hams. That keeps me feeling pretty spry.

    I really feel it when I skip that.
     
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    5-10, 165... kinda heavy boned so not too much overweight. I do not know my bodyfat %.

    If you look at McEnroe today, thats pretty much how my body looks externally, but obviously, internally I am not as robust or ache free as he is.

    Absolutely no stress, get lots of sleep etc. I love s & v but it is getting tougher every month, so I probably have to start chip/charge more on opponents serve instead, pick my spots to s&v as Phil above indicated :)
     
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    yes, shoes are important. I have Reebok 3D Premier Pro Men's Shoes bought from TW and I also put in a pair of gel insoles. So there is not much shock.
     
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    I bike for 10 minutes, then stretch for about 15 minutes, before hitting the courts.

    thanks for the tips everyone !
     
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  10. starsin47

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    Just hit 50, It does Get Better!

    Almost 10 yrs older than you. Here is what I did at 48:

    Found a good Sports Performance / Conditioning / PT guy who is also a USPTA Teaching Pro. Told him I was 48, and asked him to develop a workout / recovery program for me that was tennis specific. I had about 6, 1 hour sessions with him, at a total cost of about $500.00.

    It was $ well spent. But when it comes down to it, the key is what some of the others have mentioned: do a dynamic warm-up for about 15 to 20mins. before playing, drink LOTS of water, do a post-match stretch. Here is where it is helpful to go see a professional sports person. I was getting advice all over the board, but it really helped to get a specific program designed for me.

    At 50, I did a 6 day adult camp, 5+ hours a day in July in the Tampa area. Followed all of his advice, ate right, plenty of sleep, and was fully recovered each morning to go again.
     
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    Robert, what is your purpose of cold showers?
    This sounds painful during the cold winter months. I suspect you do this throughout the year.
     
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