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  1. Babolat Official

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    email me your resume and I can shoot it to HR: dbecker@babolat.com
     
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    wow daniel you are working today!
     
  3. Babolat Official

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    I really like talking about tennis.
     
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    i love it! me too. i spend way too much time on here. i think i need to cut back
     
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    A demo was presented

    please see
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdLeUxEEzsk
     
  6. Bartelby

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    I know a demo was presented at the FO 2012, but in this thread it was suggested that Play and Connect would be released in the second half of 2013 so that's over a year since the FO 2012.

    I find that a little puzzling, but I see that you have no solution to the puzzle.
     
  7. Bartelby

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    Announcing a racquet that's supposedly the 'most important event in the history of tennis' and yet it has still not made an appearance strikes me as a failure.
     
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    May be that they are having some technical problems & want to get it right before shipping. Too many companies are focused on meeting ship dates when the product is not ready.

    Cheers,
    kev
     
  9. Bartelby

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    That's true enough, but its still a tad imprudent to have a huge media event unless you've got the product in place.

    There may still be a race on as to who will be the first to bring this technology to market, but who knows?
     
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    Hi Daniel, you're a credit to Babolat. I hope they're aware of what you're doing?!
    I run a pro shop in my tennis academy in London and we specialise in Babolat rackets, all my pro's use Babolat rackets, their are seven of us in all and we use right across the range, Aeropro, Pure Drive, Pure Storm GT & Pure Storm Ltd GT.
    A couple of questions please Daniel..... 1) Will there be new models for the Pure Storm range for 2014? & 2) Are you able in a small paragraph each to sum up the main attributes & differences between the four Pure Storm's.... GT, Tour, Team & LTD? We are forever having to try and explain the difference's between the four. I know the Team is just a lighter version of the GT (is that right?), but how would you classify all of them in an easy paragraph? Many thanks Jay
     
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    I was wondering what Babolats stance on the open string pattern craze that seems to be coming down the pike via Wilson etc... Have they done any R&D into this? I can't imagine a racquet that would be capable of generating more spin than the Aeropro drive.
    Also, I have been stringing my Aeropro Drive plus(2013) with 17g RPM Blast at 52, if I wanted to give the 18g a whirl should I adjust the tension? I feel like I could go even a little lower with the 17g. Have you had any time on the new RPM dual? Is there any decrease in playability over RPM blast?
     
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    The RPM Dual is not an octongonal shape anymore like the Blast and team, so it might not give as much spin? But i think the twisted titanium co poly will enhance some spin too. The twisted titanium co poly with the high density co poly improves resistance to abrasion to ensure greater durability. The twisted system provides excellent tension hold as mentioned on the babolat website. And the dual still has the cross linked silicone coating (like the blast and team) enhancing ball bite for more spin.

    But will this be a stiff string because of the titanium co poly?
     
  13. JAY1

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    Also Daniel are there plans to bring out a Pure Storm GT XL in 2014?
     
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    I doubt he would know as that seems to far into the future. He wasn't sure if the PS would be cortexed so I doubt he would know that.
     
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    Hey Daniel, just wanting to let you know that I currently own 3 of the 2012 Aeropro Drive GTs and the 2012 Aero Line Bag and enjoy them immensely. I've always been a Babolat racquet user as I started with the Pure Drive Plus when i began playing 6 years ago. I've never had any problems with any of your products to this point. Also wanted to thank you for this thread and would love to see other brands doing this in the future.
     
  16. JAY1

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    Thanks for that...
     
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    This is a really petty and off-putting post. What were you hoping to achieve when you wrote this?
     
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    Thanks! Appreciate the kind words. Glad you like our product.
     
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    This guy is right. Product mix isn't set yet. Is that something you would like to see?
     
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    I did not find as much spin from Dual and it played stiffer (to me). The guys in the office who liked Dual were the same ones that prefer Revenge to Blast or Team.
     
  21. Babolat Official

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    We do testing on spin production, but I don't know if we have plan to test against the new string patterns. I would assume we will. My next meeting with R&D is late January. I haven't had a chance to demo the new lines, but will try to in the next couple months (for personal knowledge).

    I have played with Dual, but only in 16 (I use 18 Blast). It plays stiffer, which I did not find to my liking. I'm going to try the 17 when I get back in the office.

    In terms of tension, my belief is go as low as you can (to increase spin) without sacrificing pinpoint control. I know a lot of full poly players are in the 40s (I'm at 48). As the boards will tell you, experimenting is the way to go. The 18 will break much faster than you 17.

    Let me know how the tinkering goes!
     
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    Am I the only one who thinks that characterizing Daniel - or anyone - as "almost nothing" is shockingly rude and disrespectful?

    Despite the explosion of social media and the dramatic paradigm shift it created in how we communicate and interact with each other, few companies are willing to accept the need to be transparent with their customers. Twitter, Facebook, and the thousands of other social media channels are holding companies accountable for everything they do.

    It's clear that Daniel and the folks at Babolat not only accept this, but they use social media to create meaningful and personal conversations with their customers in ways other companies should aspire to. How many other companies can you name in any industry that does what Babolat is doing?

    I just completed an executive program at UCLA focused on social media marketing. There is little doubt in my mind that this forum and Daniel's/Babolat's efforts will be fodder for a case study on how to use social media correctly. I'll do my part and send the link to this forum to a few of my professors.

    Before I get off my soapbox, I want to reiterate how offended I am by your comment. I'm sure you'll point to your comment that recognizes Daniel's "genuine" passion for tennis, but it is condescending to the extreme. Daniel has responded to just about each and every post with a question directed to him in a timely and well-thought out manner.

    Please just say "thank you" and learn from the hundreds of posts in this thread.
     
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    'Dramatic paradigm shift' is hyperbole, to say the least, social media may have started out as horizontal but it's only useful for business when its top-down communication, however disguised.

    Businesses wants to persuade and who better to do the persuading than the customer, if you can cajole them into doing the 'hidden persuasion'.


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  24. Babolat Official

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    Thanks for the note! I was in London for the ATP WTFs, what a city!

    1. Yes, not sure on specific updates yet.
    2.Tried to keep this real simple, email me if you want more detail or have questions on specifics (I can provide more numbers, flex, etc.). dbecker@babolat.com

    Pure Storm - our classic feeling racquet. Thinner beam (21mm), tighter string pattern (16x20), midsize head (98 in), more flexible than the PD & APD lines.
    Pure Storm Tour - heavier version of the Pure Storm
    Pure Storm Team - lighter, bigger head size (100 vs. 98)
    Pure Storm LTD - heavier than Pure Storm, smaller head (95 vs 98), thinner beam (19 vs 21mm), tighter string pattern (18x20 vs 16x20)...plays different than the rest of the family

    hope that helps!
     
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    Saw Tsonga using blacked out frame at Hopman Cup, what is this frame and when is it coming out?
     
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    Thanks for the note. I was in London for the ATP WTFs, what a city!

    1. Yes, not sure on specific updates yet.
    2.Tried to keep this real simple, email me if you want more detail or have questions on specifics (I can provide more numbers, flex, etc.). dbecker@babolat.com

    Pure Storm - our classic feeling racquet. Thinner beam (21mm), tighter string pattern (16x20), midsize head (98 in), more flexible than the PD & APD lines.
    Pure Storm Tour - heavier version of the Pure Storm
    Pure Storm Team - lighter, bigger head size (100 vs. 98)
    Pure Storm LTD - heavier than Pure Storm, smaller head (95 vs 98), thinner beam (19 vs 21mm), tighter string pattern (18x20 vs 16x20)...plays different than the rest of the family

    Hope that helps...
     
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    I don't want to turn this into a debate on social media, but when you have a chance take a look at this.

    http://bit.ly/SSImfj

    Feel free to contact me at spdrcr@me.com if you'd like to discuss further.

    Cheers.
     
  28. gino

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    I just wanted to quickly interject and say thanks to Daniel for doing this. Babolat is taking great steps by having you on the forum, and for younger college players life myself it is really great to hear from someone in the industry who is so accessible and willing to communicate with consumers.

    Thanks again

    Gino
     
  29. Bartelby

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    'Social' media is undoubtedly growing, but it's being cannabalized or monetised by big business.

    In the same way that the internet was tamed by the app makers working for Apple and Google, social media is being tamed by making communication work for the company to the frustration of the user.

    I can't see a net gain in transparency, only over-communication.



     
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    Hi Dan, I hope this questions hasn't already been asked and answered in this thread, I have searched but with no luck...

    I'm considering buying a Pure Drive as I like rackets with some free umph, however, I can't decide between the 2009 GT & the 2012 iteration.

    My question is: Why has there been (according to TW measurements) a huge drop in swing weight from 327 to 308 with this model? Surely the lack of mass in the upper hoop makes the 2012 model less stable and less substantial in hard rallies / returning heavy serves?

    I understand that there is a lot more to racket physics than this, but a 19 point drop in swing weight is a large deficit.
     
  31. JAY1

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    Thanks Daniel. I sent an email to your Babolat address.
    Also what are the playing differences between the Storm Ltd and the Storm Ltd XL?
    Thanks J
     
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    Rpm 16, 17 or 18

    I bought a 2013 Apd and will string with Rpm. I am looking for a softer more cushioned feel. I would like to give Rpm a try again. I hit with alot of topspin on both topspin and backhand and have a western grip and one handed backhand, What gauge would you recommend and what tension? Also, what is the advantage of using 16 gauge over 18? All pros useRpm 16 or 17 and not the 18 why is that?
     
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    I think at the pro level 18 gauge just snaps too fast, especially with the pace and spin that the pros play with.
     
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    18 snaps quickly, i would just stick to the 16 or 17. 17 is still durable though. And for tension i would go low 40-50 because rpm looses its tension quite fast. My rpm on my pd2012 is strung at 50lbs. I demoed the apd 2013 and loved rpm at 48 lbs.
     
  35. Babolat Official

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    This is correct.
     
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    ^ Hey Dan!!

    What's this new mystery stick Tsonga's playing with?

    A thin beamed, 18x20 babolat. Any info on when it will likely be released or revealed to the public?

    TIA
     
  37. Babolat Official

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    How do you like the new APD?

    If you are looking for a softer feel, you probably need to get away from a full poly. Have you tried a hybrid? Gut is really soft, but expensive.

    The advantage of 16 is it does not break as fast. I think the thinner strings have more feel...but again, person preference. For example, Rafa uses a 15L.

    Tension and gauge is more of a personal preference. My stringer claims the 18 is softer to string with. From personal experience, I can tell you it breaks really fast.

    The users above are correct, the 18 breaks too fast (Stosur tried it at a couple events last year and had to go back to the thicker gauge). I've heard of people using it in the crosses in the reverse hybrid,
     
  38. Babolat Official

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    Got your email and shot you back a note.
     
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    That is a good question. I will have to email the product manager.

    I preferred the 2009 version because I thought it played livelier.

    I would suggest stringing them up the same and doing a long term play test. Pick whatever feels best.

    shoot me an email dbecker@babolat.com so I don't forget about the SW question
     
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    Thanks Gino. Just replied to your email.
     
  41. ryydman

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    Thanks Dan. Ofcourse we're assuming the TW SW stats are reliable and representative.
     
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    If its not the PSL line It will definitely pique my interest when it gets released! :razz:

    -Fuji
     
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    ^^I am watching Tsonga right now and he is playing with the APD 2013 paint job.
     
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    I was watching it too but i had to leave. Who won that match?
     
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    Tsonga won, 7-5,6-3.
     
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    Niceee. Daniel do you know if the pros using the 2012 PD's and 2011 storms be using the new logo on their racquets?
     
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    Initially I liked the new Apd alot. I have been with a virus so I had not played for a week and a half but considering that I am not ok yet the racket felt solid. It was strung with Luxilon 4g at 46 and this string felt very good. I bought a second Apd today and strung this one with RPM 18 at 48 tension. Long ago I used Black Code 18 and it lasted so we will see. With the new Apd I hit nice angle shots and down the line shots with precision. But its designed for hitting powerful topspin shots not so much for flat hitting. I definitely liked the upgrade and especially the active cortex in the handle. Nice cosmetics too. I am really happy with the new Apd.
     
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    Maybe the stencil and butt cap, but thats it.
     
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    Since Babolat now has a new logo, when will TW or anyone have the stencil for this?
    I see that it is 2 wide lines not all the way across with what looks like about a 45 degree bevel on the left side of the lines.
     
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    We've made stencils and are sending them to retail accounts
     

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