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  1. Babolat Official

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    Hey maxhunter, my initial instinct says drill flash, but I cannot be sure without seeing the racket in person. I would suggest giving our warranty department a call, and they can give you a better answer regarding the frame and any future steps.

    1.877.316.9435, option 2

    He is most definitely an exemplar to follow :)
     
  2. g4driver

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    Mansoor / Babolat Official or Daniel,

    First of all, thank you are coming on this forum to provide information and answer questions. The fact that you take inputs and pass them along is much appreciated by many.

    This is not a criticism of Babolat or any company, but I was wondering if any of your new Aero Pro frames ever measure under 70 RA, or if any AP Team measure 68 or under on your RDC machines ?

    If not, do you or anyone at Babolat have any experience with the Pure Aero Team with some Tungten Tape and a leather grip to add weight and increase the 305 listed string weight?

    The thought of a 67 RDC measured Pure Aero Team, with a static weight of around 340 grams and 325 swingweight seems very feasible looking it at your listed specs on the PA team.

    Thanks for your time.
     
  3. Babolat Official

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    Hi g4driver, the official RA stiffness ratings of our new Pure Aero line are all above 70. However, it's important to note that these are all unstrung measurements and will drop when strung.

    I haven't put many of the frames on the RDC machine yet, so I would need to get back to you on the stiffnesses. In regards to the Pure Aero team, I do not know of anyone who has customized their frame with leather and or tungsten, but I can ask around.
     
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  4. RalphJ

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    That's pretty stiff, but the APD has always been known for its arm toxicity and stiffness. Customers should use it at their own risk.
     
  5. g4driver

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    Well I guess the good news is multiple users reporting the PA feels softer than the 2012 APD. :)

    TW is showing both Pure Aero and the Pure Aero Team at 69. Those are strung measurements, but it gives me hope that in box of 12 frames, TW might find a few unstrung frames that are slightly lower RA, around 69.

    Thanks very much for the quick reply and for asking around about the leather and additional weight on the PA team.

    The 16x19 pattern might allow me to use a softer string like Technifibre's HDX tour.
    Multis just don't work in a 16x15 frame

    Both the PA and PA team look like great frames to customize if folks want to do that.

    If you find any unstrung PA measuring 69 or lower, please reply with a Smile :) - as that will put a smile on many faces besides me.
     
  6. Karma Tennis

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    "Customers" should ensure they have the correct stroke mechanics and use the appropriate dist. weight and string solution commensurate with their physique.

    Under those circumstances with an APD there is little risk of anything except for the production of a great tennis game.

    Of course, there are always exceptions to the rule. But that can apply to every racquet in some way or another.
     
  7. bigdaddyps

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    string it with all gut at a low-ish tension, or a gut in mains hybrid at a low-ish tension. If that don't work, divorce the sucka.
     
  8. RalphJ

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    The APDs are some of the best engineered racquets made. I do feel that Babolat needs be careful at not putting too much weight in the head because it will have a negative affect on the arm.
     
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    For what it's worth, the Pure Aero with spiraltek is about as arm-friendly as it gets. It's stiff all right, but they've built some good dampening into the frame.
     
  10. Hankenstein

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    The Pure Aero Tour also has a RA similar to the 300 gram Pure Aero but it feels more like the first original APD from 2005. The very open stringpattern makes the frames stiffness feels lower then what it really is. So far i have no arm-problem at all with the Pure Aero tour. I have it strung with Head Hawk Touch in 52 lbs. This string lasted me about 4 hours of play before it snapped
     
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    SOLD!!
     
  12. Nostradamus

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    Please make the Aero plus more lighter and lighter Swingweight, so it will be a usable frame. otherwise it will be too difficult to swing due to its Extra Length. Thank you
     
  13. purple-n-gold

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    Hey Fed, here's my plan..Gonna buy a the new team version and add some silicone and extend it. $20 cheaper, softer and will be at least 8pts HL..excellent doubles stick no?
     
  14. g4driver

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    Thanks much.

    Is that 16g or 17g HH Touch ? my guess is your are a very strong player, likely a 5.0 USTA equivalent player or better to snap HH Touch that quickly.

    My sweet-spot for strung frames is 340 grams and not more than 330
    swingweight. But I prefer the swingweight around 325 measured on a Prince Precision Tuning Center.
     
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    Hello, a question on Grommets. I have a Drive Z lite Yellow version and would like to replace the grommets, does it share it with other models? Which one can I get here on TW?
    Tks!
     
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    I am not Federer, not do I pretend to be him. anyway, if you extended it is completely different racket and raises the SW more than you think it does. For me, It is NOT acceptable to take a standard length racket and extend it with some outside method. ONLY acceptable way is to do it like manufacturers do it.
     
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    NO, it would not be a excellent doubles stick. I had already tried this with 2 different models of Standard length rackets and they were BOTH DISASTERS both times. I will NEVER do it again as long as I live.
     
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    Hank, whats the SW on those bad boys? I could see myself trying one down the road as it sounds similar to the Head Extreme Pro.
     
  19. Hankenstein

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    Sorry. Don't have that info, but maybe around 330 or so!? That's just a guess though. It has some serious mass to crush the ball with but still fast enough to hit through the swing and generating head speed
     
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    Have been a big fan of the original 2005 so could you elaborate a bit more on the similarity of the new pure aero tour to the original 2005 APD
     
  21. Hankenstein

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    Im so sorry guys but I meant the original pure drive from 1997 and not the original 2005 apd. The Pure Aero Tour has somewhat same solid feel as the original PD had. At impact it feels "rich" in the feel. Hard to explain but it feels so d--n nice! Like an extension of my arm and hand. Where I aim the ball lands. For me and my game it's a weapon of mass destruction. It creates chaos for my opponents. Haha! I know it sounds a bit silly but im starting to fall in love with this frame. And now the honeymoon is also over and i still see stars and honey
     
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    Does anyone know when TW is doing a play test with the new Pure Aero and when it will be uploaded to YouTube?
     
  23. Babolat Official

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    Hey chenray,

    I believe the previous Pure Drive grommets should fit the Drive Z lite.
     
  24. atatu

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    Babolat Official,
    Just a quick question, I would like to buy a racket for a beginner, female aged 15, I am thinking about buying one of the E sense lite rackets as a starter racket. Do you think this is a good idea or should I try to find a used Pure Drive or Pure Drive lite racket in the alternative ? Thank you.
     
  25. Babolat Official

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    Hmm, I would say that depends a bit. How much do you expect her to play, and do you expect her to continue playing on into the future?

    I ask because the E Sense frames, or more recently, the Babolat Flow frames, would be more appropriate to a beginner since they are more transitional frames. However, she would be able to grow into a Pure Drive or Pure Drive Lite more easily and continue using into the future at higher levels.
     
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    @TW Staff
     
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    Both the written and video should be up by the end of the week.

    Thanks,

    Brittany, TW
     
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  28. purple-n-gold

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    My local 'Babolat Official' still has not received his sticks. Any word on if we might get them before Sept. And when will the Plus versions be released?? Take care and thanks!
     
  29. Nostradamus

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    I think Plus version is being released in October or November. I would be interested in knowing the specs of the plus version please, Mr. Babolat.
     
  30. Bartelby

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    They should charge plus users 219 and standard users 199.
     
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  31. thebigz

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    No, just no.
     
  32. Nostradamus

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    Why is that ? because Plus has more graphite ?? are we charging by the ounce ? Plus doesn't sell very well and if you raise the price, it will sell even Less.
     
  33. Babolat Official

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    The Pure Aeros should be released September 1st. And the plus versions have a planned release later this fall in November
     
  34. Babolat Official

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    Sure, the unstrung specs are:

    Head size: 100 sq in/645 square cm
    Weight: 300 gm/10.6 oz
    Balance: 320 mm
    Flexibility: 72 RA
    Stringing Pattern: 16 x 19
    Length: 27.5 "

    I unfortunately don't have the swingweight, though I'm not sure if that was very important for you.
     
  35. Nostradamus

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    Oh I am really starting to like this new gentleman from Babolat.... Great sense of humor......
     
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    This is exact same Weight and Balance point as regular Aero. Which means plus will have much higher SW due to extra length. SW would be around 335-338 due to extra length. Me and my friends may have to go back to Yonex, sorry.

    Can you possibly suggest to Babolat management to make the Aero Team in Plus version Please then we would come back to Babolat.
     
  37. n8dawg6

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    I am sure Babolat is crushed. It's ok Babolat, just go ahead and let it happen, a good cry will help you cope. Let the waterworks flow.

    Pure Aero for the win, fantastic frame.
     
  38. Nostradamus

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    Just FYI , my teammates that uses the Regular length aeropro will switch to New Aero, they actually liked it with SW of around 327. but those of us that use Plus version will go back to Yonex.
     
  39. Silverito

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    Hi,

    someone knows why rackets Babolat Pure strike is not available in long version ? I'm playing with Babolat Pure strike and I would like it a little longer

    I'm looking for options and tutorials to make longer racquets but I have no success
     
  40. Slick Tennis

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    Going through this thread, and especially the last few pages I find it interesting that the TW mods are letting what could be such an informative and useful discussion be derailed by one member clearly trying to derail it by focussing obsessively on the SW of the newest model which leads to replys and so on,,,, It might have been sort of funny at first but it is now annoying, unproductive and is taking a lot of space making the overall thread almost irrelevant...
     
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    He said it to give you a hard time and because you are always bringing up the plus version to the point that it is making the board pull it's wires out.
     
  42. Babolat Official

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    Hello team,

    Just wanted to let you know that I am not trying to leave you hanging, but I am in NYC for the next few days, and as a result, I am a little bit busy at the moment.

    That said, check out @Babolat on Twitter and Instagram and babolatvs on Snapchat around 11 AM Friday. We've got big news coming up and wouldn't want you to miss a thing :)


    (P.S. It is not the reveal of the SW of any of our current or future racket models in standard or extended length :))
     
  43. Karma Tennis

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    Focus on jumping 0.5" higher off the ground when you serve and stretching 0.5" further on ground-strokes and volleys.

    Master that, and you can dispense with any need for a PLUS version of any racquet.
     
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    11:00 AM PST? Also great sense of humor, I love it!
     
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    I have a good, serious idea for you. If you won't like the new SW of the plus, how about you dont change racquets and keep using the APD+. If its the perfect length and SW for you, no need to change to the pure aero+...
     
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    I assume this is the great surprise:

     
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    I'm wondering what the difference between this and Play is. Sweetspot data perhaps?

    I'm intrigued. If it helps me keep the score and my stats for points I'm in!
     
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