Bonjour from Babolat

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by Babolat Official, Dec 10, 2012.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Babolat Official

    Babolat Official Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2012
    Messages:
    2,593
    Location:
    Louisville, Colorado
    Pay attention to some of the pro players and top juniors come the US Open...then follow us on facebook and twitter.

    4 models in the new line coming...
     
  2. sureshs

    sureshs Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2005
    Messages:
    40,051
    OK will look forward to that
     
  3. Bartelby

    Bartelby G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2005
    Messages:
    16,771
    What's the company's thinking about the future of extended length racquets?
     
  4. Babolat Official

    Babolat Official Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2012
    Messages:
    2,593
    Location:
    Louisville, Colorado
    we'll continue to offer them
     
  5. raging

    raging Professional

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2009
    Messages:
    1,359

    If you mean a few pros & top juniors will be using the new line at the US Open then that is great news.:)

    Will be watching the US Open & follow babolat on twitter & facebook since you started with it. :)
     
  6. mavsman149

    mavsman149 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2005
    Messages:
    1,999
    Location:
    Houston, TX
    Its a shame in my opinion, wont deter me from buying a Babolat racket though haha. When I look at the new stencil I think of Monty Python and the Holy Grail, the scene with the legendary black beast of ahhhhh!

    The guy must have died while stenciling!!!
     
  7. mavsman149

    mavsman149 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2005
    Messages:
    1,999
    Location:
    Houston, TX
    On a serious note, do the Storm/Storm Tour bumper/grommets fit into an old Pure Control 2001?
     
  8. Babolat Official

    Babolat Official Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2012
    Messages:
    2,593
    Location:
    Louisville, Colorado
    I'll have to ask a racquet tech. I'm out of the office but will try to find out asap. shoot me an email dbecker@babolat.com and I'll get you a response.
     
  9. dgoran

    dgoran Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2004
    Messages:
    2,591
    HI Daniel

    Is there a resource offered by babolat that would tell us if certain tennis shop is babolat reseller or not.

    I bought a racquet from famous shop in LA and they are swearing that they are official babolat reseller but racquet has no bar code in the throat or in the handle under the grip so I fear its fake.

    I sent you an email about it so if you would rather take this offline just search for my email gdraskovic at gmail
     
  10. SFrazeur

    SFrazeur Legend

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2006
    Messages:
    6,536
    Location:
    Arkansas
    http://www.babolat.com/dealer

    The place (90039 zip code) I assume you are referring to is listed as an authorized dealer. I thought those guys were no longer authorized due to violating MAP pricing/advertizing.
    Perhaps Daniel can explain.
     
  11. dgoran

    dgoran Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2004
    Messages:
    2,591
    Thanks sfrazeur

    I am hoping for "official" explanation as well as this is either some bad qc where someone forgot to put bar codes or "the doctor" is obtaining these Babolats from some questionable source...the manager I spoke to over the phone was very unfriendly to say the least while I was really trying to be sweet about this whole ordeal...
    She did mention that years ago they lost license but Babolat "begged them" to come back and sell their products again...

    This almost feels like the racquet was made in the same factory as official Babolat racquets but did not make it through qc but still made it to the retail channel...
     
  12. SFrazeur

    SFrazeur Legend

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2006
    Messages:
    6,536
    Location:
    Arkansas
    Their website used to state that babolat racquets had "no warranty." And that "Adidas, Babolat and Head/Penn are three companies that have terminated (censored) for selling below mandated price levels." They also stated: "We are not an authorized Babolat Dealer. This racquet does not come with a manufacturer warranty." Which explains the sticker removal. No Map, no sticker.
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2013
  13. parasailing

    parasailing Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2009
    Messages:
    3,873
    There has been some confusion as to whether the Pure Stryke is the successor to the Pure Storm or whether this is a new line in addition to the Pure Storm?

    If the Pure Stryke is another line, then will the new Pure Storm be renamed to Pure Control?

    And when are both racquets expected to come out?
     
  14. sixone90

    sixone90 Professional

    Joined:
    May 7, 2008
    Messages:
    1,377
    The Pure Stryke is a different line to the Pure Storm. The current Pure Storm line is being renamed Pure Control, it will be the same mold but have added material (sorta like Basalt, d3O, marketing crap, etc.) that will change the feel of the racquet slightly. Both racquets due Australian Open time or just before.
     
  15. parasailing

    parasailing Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2009
    Messages:
    3,873
    Thanks for the clarification. I guess I better save up some money for next year's mad rush with all the new racquets coming out.
     
  16. palmerop

    palmerop Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2013
    Messages:
    320
    Location:
    NYC
    Hey Babolat Official,

    What does different string patterns mean??? 18x20 and 16x18 or maybe also some 16x15-like pattern? Also I noticed you switched from 18 gauge to 17 gauge, why?
     
  17. ArliHawk

    ArliHawk Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2012
    Messages:
    2,288
    What else can you add about the Pure Stryke? Is it a racquet in between the Pure Drive and Pure Storm?
     
  18. Lukhas

    Lukhas Legend

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2013
    Messages:
    7,156
    Location:
    France
    See the AeroStorm? That's where it is.
     
  19. Babolat Official

    Babolat Official Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2012
    Messages:
    2,593
    Location:
    Louisville, Colorado
    we have an authorized dealer locator on our website. did I respond to your email? it's been a crazy couple days.
     
  20. Babolat Official

    Babolat Official Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2012
    Messages:
    2,593
    Location:
    Louisville, Colorado
    we only sell directly to authorized dealers, which can be found on our website. if they are not an authorized dealer, we do can not guarantee the quality or authenticity of their product.
     
  21. Babolat Official

    Babolat Official Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2012
    Messages:
    2,593
    Location:
    Louisville, Colorado
    while I can't speak to the "marketing crap" (technical term?), you're not 100% correct....but the speculation is apprecaited
     
    Last edited: Aug 13, 2013
  22. Babolat Official

    Babolat Official Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2012
    Messages:
    2,593
    Location:
    Louisville, Colorado
    correct, different string patterns are different mains/crosses combinations.

    I was going through the 18 in 1-3 hours and it was getting cumbersome when I traveled for work to take 4-6 rackets. if i'm in the office for a long stay, I go back to the 18.
     
  23. Babolat Official

    Babolat Official Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2012
    Messages:
    2,593
    Location:
    Louisville, Colorado
    first, it's not called the Pure Stryke.

    second, it's going to be awesome.
     
  24. Babolat Official

    Babolat Official Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2012
    Messages:
    2,593
    Location:
    Louisville, Colorado
    it will be a frame that reflects the continuing evolution of the game and meets demands of more players in the skill and game style spectrum.

    and it will be pretty awesome.
     
  25. Babolat Official

    Babolat Official Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2012
    Messages:
    2,593
    Location:
    Louisville, Colorado
    more info end of 2013. release date varies by market. first wave of US should be Jan 2014 with additional model later in the year.
     
  26. vvkid

    vvkid New User

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2013
    Messages:
    93
    does it also comes in sz junior 26?
     
  27. Recoveringhobo

    Recoveringhobo Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2010
    Messages:
    131
    Location:
    PNW
    How is it any different than the old Aero Storm? I thought that line was supposed to be the cross between a player's frame (PST) and modern racquets (APD).

    No matter what I'm excited. I've been using old Pure Storm Teams for over a decade -- the metallic orange and black ones -- since I've never found the newer ones to have the same feel. I think it may be time for an upgrade.
     
  28. Bartelby

    Bartelby G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2005
    Messages:
    16,771
    Does the company see any need for low stiffness racquet ranges, especially in relation to the new range?

    Or does your research show no real benefits or concerns with regard to stiffness?

    Is feel also one of the highest priorities in racquet design?

    Do the players help to define the feel of the racquets and how do they describe the feel they want in a design?

    Big questions I know.



     
  29. d-quik

    d-quik Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2004
    Messages:
    363
    Any updates on the nanoparticles pure drive 92 sq in. Coming out next year?
     
  30. WhereIsMacMac

    WhereIsMacMac Professional

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2012
    Messages:
    1,139
    LOL are you actually serious about this?
     
  31. raging

    raging Professional

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2009
    Messages:
    1,359
    I admire your patience in dealing with all the speculation.

    I have been meanwhile experimenting with string/tension in different racquets, PD 107, PD & Aeropro Team.

    Enjoying what I do have rather than getting too
    concerned about what is coming up.

    Works for me:)
     
  32. PureDriveFan

    PureDriveFan New User

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2013
    Messages:
    15
    Would it be possible to find out in what order the new rackets will be released and roughly when? I'm looking buy a new one and would like to know how long I'm going to have to wait?

    Eg. New Pure Storm for US Open, followed by Babolat Play for Xmas, followed by the 'new' line for AUS Open?

    Will any pro's be using the 'new' line of rackets? Are there any names we could look out for?

    Thanks.
     
  33. Babolat Official

    Babolat Official Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2012
    Messages:
    2,593
    Location:
    Louisville, Colorado
    The growing success of the AS was one of the inspirations for this new racket. It fills a void in our offering. It will be a hybrid between what some of our current frames offer.

    There will also be an update to the Pure Storm range.
     
  34. Babolat Official

    Babolat Official Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2012
    Messages:
    2,593
    Location:
    Louisville, Colorado
    For the new line: Through Nov/Dec we'll announce the full range, as half is already produced and the rest are in production based off player feedback (but we will have final specs).

    You may see info on Play before that.

    Pure Storm update will be post Aussie Open.
     
  35. Babolat Official

    Babolat Official Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2012
    Messages:
    2,593
    Location:
    Louisville, Colorado
    Despite the conspiracy theories, we are not out to destroy arms.

    The range will be more flexible.

    Our priority is to offer the best range of products that help players raise their game to their highest levels. The game is constantly evolving and our product development aims to reflect such changes.

    We play test rackets with: pro players, jrs, teaching pros, amateurs, etc. All of this feedback goes into the design. If you take an objective look at our product line and the criticisms we receive...this new line should reflect much of such feedback.

    Not everyone likes our products. And that is ok.

    Our competitors have a lot of strong offers. Our goal is to offer gear that suits as many game styles, experience levels, and needs as possible. There is no end, but something we are constantly striving for through inspiration and innovation.
     
  36. Babolat Official

    Babolat Official Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2012
    Messages:
    2,593
    Location:
    Louisville, Colorado
    shhh. top secret.
     
  37. Babolat Official

    Babolat Official Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2012
    Messages:
    2,593
    Location:
    Louisville, Colorado
    what is your current string set up?
     
  38. Nostradamus

    Nostradamus G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2011
    Messages:
    17,555
    Location:
    In the future
    Please can you make these new pure drives and new aeropros with exact same specs as 2012 and 2013 models but make them in 102 sq inches head size ??? 100 is little too small and 105 or 107 is too big. Thank you
     
  39. sureshs

    sureshs Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2005
    Messages:
    40,051
    Please do NOT make them more than 100.
     
  40. raging

    raging Professional

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2009
    Messages:
    1,359
    Have been stringing 107 with Xcel @58lbs, 100 with Xcel/RPM Blast @54lbs & Aeropro Team with RPM Dual at 54lbs.

    It makes tennis fun, changing between all 3 on a daily basis.

    For what it is worth the PD 107 is still a great racquet for older, classical style: serve/volley players who want to use softer strings, more feel :)
    Very easy on the arm.
     
  41. Babolat Official

    Babolat Official Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2012
    Messages:
    2,593
    Location:
    Louisville, Colorado
    I'll pass on your comments. What benefit are you looking for from those 2 square inches?
     
  42. Babolat Official

    Babolat Official Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2012
    Messages:
    2,593
    Location:
    Louisville, Colorado
    Big fan of the PD107. Can't wait to use it later in my career.
     
  43. PKfan1

    PKfan1 Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    430
    Location:
    Atlanta
    He's gotta be messing with you... at least I really hope so
     
  44. sureshs

    sureshs Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2005
    Messages:
    40,051
    Don't take him seriously, otherwise Babolat will go bankrupt.

    There was once a great poster called Fedace, who had really good ideas, but this guy is not like that.
     
  45. dgoran

    dgoran Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2004
    Messages:
    2,591
    Never got a response but i understand busy...
    so according to babolat site they are authorized so why is it missing bar codes?
     
  46. Nostradamus

    Nostradamus G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2011
    Messages:
    17,555
    Location:
    In the future
    Bigger sweet spot and power and control high in the head too
     
  47. Bartelby

    Bartelby G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2005
    Messages:
    16,771
    Yes, well, it wasn't really a question about conspiracies.

    It was about whether there is any research logic behind why companies choose mostly to stiffen racquets.

    i have no great orientation to softer or stiffer racquets, but there is some evidence that players choose far softer racquets than those available.

    I've found no advantages in stiffer racquets, but I'm sure others do. Research seems to indicate only smallish benefits on off centre hits.






     
  48. raging

    raging Professional

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2009
    Messages:
    1,359
    I realise you are responding to Babolat Official but do you mean players are choosing older model racquets that are softer??

    I know there seems to be a bit of fear of stiffer frames in correlation with arm injuries/added vibration etc, particularly on off centre hits.

    I think it may be a lot of factors leading to arm problems: / incorrect strings ,
    and/or stringing,incorrect technique, overuse (overplaying), players physiology(propensity to back & arm injuries).

    Working with juniors playing every day it is sometimes difficult to stop them playing & realise they need to listen to their body & know when to rest.

    Some adult players need to be restrained & retrained as well.:):)

    On a positive note, if Babolat are going to market a softer, more flexible line then this will address the needs of players looking for this feel.
    That can only be applauded.
     
  49. WhereIsMacMac

    WhereIsMacMac Professional

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2012
    Messages:
    1,139
    I sent you an email regarding the babolat pure drive 2012. Hope you'll be able to answer my query
     
  50. Bartelby

    Bartelby G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2005
    Messages:
    16,771
    The whole stiffness causes injury issue does not worry me and given that stiffness is not that important for power, I'm curious as to why it's built into a lot of newer racquets. I don't think the science leads to this outcome.

    Presumably consumer preferences alone dictate these decisions.

    I have an original Pure Drive without the woofer grommets and it has a stiffness of 67 and, more generally, I've never found that a stiffness level much above 65-67 adds anything to a racquet.



     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page