Discussion in 'Racquets' started by Babolat Official, Dec 10, 2012.
Mais où sont les neiges d'antan?
I don't want to start scientific discussion here like some here in racquet forum but I would agree with you if you hit the ball with the racquet frame itself but that's not the case atl least majority of the time...or if your name is not federer and you frame every other ball
So you are correct that you gain minimal power closer to the frame tip due to lack of racquet bend/give but players perception is far greater here than actual on court benefit
The reality is that the real power comes from the Swingweight, and most rec players can only handle it so high. The pros use softer sticks and higher swingweights. The racquet companies know this, and want average people to get more power while keeping the racquet feeling easier to use. Even though the stiffness does not make a huge difference, it is the only way to accomplish this.
Look at the newest APD - higher in stiffness, lower in SW. Perfect example.
That is why I think a Rafa edition of the APD with his flex (roughly 65), a sick grey/black/yellow PJ, higher SW at around 330 like the prior models, and his sig would be the best selling Babolat stick of all time. It would actually have more power than the current model and the feel would be much better as well.
If they took the cortex out like most pros do on theirs, it would be even cooler, but I can see how that may not jive with their marketing department.
Double post, too much cortex taken this AM.
Anglais s'il vous plait. Mon francais est aussi mauvais que mon italieno.
when can we expect a Babolat Pure Storm Tour Ltd 16x16
Somebody who calls himself Power Player is possibly not best equipped to judge what sort of racquet would sell well to the average "non power" player. A higher SW and more flexy racquet would not help MOST recreational players feel all that good about themselves and would probably have the niche sales appeal of a Volkl. The last racquet I used with a mid 60s flex rating and a SW of 330 was the ProKennex Ki 10 PSE, and even the PK faithful never embraced that rather good racquet.
Non, non et non.
Si vous travaillez pour une boîte française vous avez besoin apprendre du bon français.
Harsh mon ami
You know what is funny is the specs I put out are the same specs as the original APD and the SW is about the exact the same as all the APDs prior to the newest release. The only difference is the flex would return to the original number. Mid 60s is not a low flex. You make it like you have to a superhero to handle that racquet, when it reality it could be used by about anybody.
Someone who calls himself Ollinger may want to actually lift a few weights now and then.
Remember, the APD static weight -it's nice and light.
Guy forget with the prototype in Optima open.
There are two issues with that statement, if as you say it would be expected to have a good grasp of the language then he wouldn't have the job as it would of been in the interview, secondly I think (this always used to be the case) that Babolat had a USA company/arm so if it's still the case he may well not work for a French company at all.
Do you think the people who make Honda cars in the US can speak Japanese?
there are two sides to the issue, and this is something that comes up A LOT here in the french part of Canada. wrote an article for an online journal on the topic a few weeks ago and stirred up a lot of discussion in this part of the world.
on the one hand, yes it's a good skill to have and definitely an issue the higher up you go in a company, but on the other, Daniel probably has the experience and skills that some other francophone candidates don't have. Babolat is a global company that reaches most of its client base in English, so it would be more beneficial, if one had to choose, to have someone good in English and less proficient in French in that position as opposed to the inverse.
don't hold your breath, but interesting idea
I speak tennis.
Daniel did you play with the new line prototype? If you have to compare to Head prestige? Is it easier?
Daniel, will the new "Pure Stryke" line or whatever it will be called, be more like the pure drive/APD, more like the pure storm, or in between?
Also, what will the cosmetics for the pure storm look like for 2014? Any pics?
And finally, will any of these new racquets be used in the US Open???
The paranoia that Babolat has about pics being released is bordering on the ridiculous.......look for matte black / orange (I say kinda red - official "color" is a type of flouro orange in French)
Not really gav- can't blame companies for wanting to release a bit of information at a time. That's why they have a Marketing Dept. I prefer the softer message of Babolat & to be honest dealing with the austrians(Head) was a humbling experience as well.
The structure of Head as a company has changed markedly though in the
last 20 years, Babolat has remained family, french based.
The message may not be loud enough for some but I think they get the job done. I still think it is great that Daniel is answering questions to the extent he does on this forum. As we have seen, no other company is offering this.
I'm with raging - I think Babolat deserves major kudos for having Daniel on here answering our questions - very smart of them.
Is this the new "Pure Stryke"?
Would be curious to understand that one myself.
is this pic from cinci?
no i found it on the web
Thanks for the bump I hope I am going to get this answered from Babolat official
No nothing at all against Babolat......I have nothing but good things to say about them for lots and lots and lots of reasons. AND they are the in the position in that their products are being copied more than any other tennis manufacturer - so I totally understand..........but some of the reactions you get from SOME folks on the inside is very very funny.
And it's awesome that Babolat created this position and a great guy like Daniel is able to reply and interact with folks.
Wow, the throat seems very large.
Daniel, anything special planned for the qualies at the open?
Looks just like Federer racket. is he switching contracts and nobody knows yet
No. That's silly. Most blacked-out midplus racquets look rather similar.
^ I hope that's not a cortex just out of the picture. I'd love to try their new line but have always disliked the feel of the cortex. Hopefully that and the pure storm stay pure
probably stupid question, do 16x19 usually have 8 hole grommet sets on the bottom?? thought that would be an 18x20 but its a much more open pattern, 16x19 usually is 6 right?
1. In between
2. You'll see them early 2014
3. For the new line, yes.
We have not released any pics. It's all you tennis junkies.
You guys are smart. You'll see the full cosmetic soon. It's not very subtle.
I confirm this is one of the prototype test rackets from the new line.
I have tested a couple of the models. I did not get to string to my preference (probably will go for 17 or 18 g RPM at 48-50 range).
I played with the Prestige Pro for a while...I've been instructed not to make direct comparisons yet (sorry).
I have reserved a batch of the new frames just for the TT community. We'll be asking for reviewers later in the year.
I will likely be switching to this new frame.
No, this was taken by me at Wimbledon.
There was no cortex on this rqt.
It was a 16x19, and I think the spacing seems better than current Storms. I've also seen this frame in an 18x20. Both had 8 holes in the throat.
Merci. Even though I get into it with some of you (healthy spirited debate never hurt anyone, right?), this is one of the more interesting and entertaining parts of the job. Appreciate you all putting up with me.
We actually haven't released any info yet besides the fact there will be a new line. There are simply too many resourceful tennis fans out there...getting at info before we're ready.
You'll see some product teasing in the coming months on our social media channels. Thanks for the patience.
We need more maneuverability, more power and more control in that order.
Email me and I'll forward it to the after sales. This is their world. Not familiar with the particular shop enough to know their specific situation.
Sadly, no. Not being a sponsor of the Open makes on site activation impossible (my buddies at Wilson make sure of that).
We're doing something kind of cool the end of this week (or at least I think it's cool) with our facebook & twitter pages and some of the top players.
I can neither confirm nor deny.
But mostly deny.
I'll let you in on a little secret:
We're a quirky French company. We're all a little crazy. And we love tennis.
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