Brad Baughman

Discussion in 'Junior League & Tournament Talk' started by SoCalDominates, Mar 14, 2009.

  1. mikej

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    he won a dubs rd at us open too

    that dubs final in one futures does not in any universe disprove the fact that his results have been way way below the level he showed at us open in the last three tournaments - if you don't realize that you should reread the results i posted above until you do - if that doesn't work pick up a coloring book, since this forum is apparently above your head
     
  2. andfor

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    Great analysis. I'm sure you'd make a great, mentor coach and motivator.

    The road to success is not an uninterrupted elevator ride to the top. There are many factors at play at any given time during an athletes development. Fact is neither you or I are aware of what they are.

    Did you notice the score in the dubs final?
     
  3. mikej

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    i simply said his form at us open was an exception - that's completely obvious from his results - didn't say he has no chance of making it on tour at some point

    and who cares what the dubs score was? maybe a slight injury after they lost first set, maybe they just didn't care about finishing that match after the end of a long week (similarly britton-krajicek only played a set in semis - dubs doesn't matter much and these guys know it - they want to make it in singles)

    you choose a lot of peripheral arguments once someone shows you are an idiot - which is why this is my last response to you about this topic - not getting dragged down any more stupid side roads

    you argued with me saying his recent results were not at the level of his us open performance...i showed above that you are insane for arguing with me about that...case closed

    get some help
     
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  4. andfor

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    ^^^No matter how insulting, condescending and elitist you try to present yourself, you can't hide from your shortsightedness.
     
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    Hedy TCF if I show up in Dec in Miami you coming down to by me a diet coke ?
     
  6. ga tennis

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    It would be nice to see Deit win the Orange Bowl.
     
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    Semifinalist will be plenty. Winning it is cherry on top.
    Don't want to put undue pressure on him. I feel like he needs to grow more.

    Is he playing 16s or 18s? Do you know? Maybe #1Coach can chime in.
     
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    I would LOVE for him to play the 16s. That would be playing under pressure!
     
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    "True" competitors are under pressure whenever they compete not only against the competition but themselves to always play at a level to succeed . Steam rolling 16 year olds would be less intense then playing at your physical and game level of the 18's or NCAA's
     
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    I would still play the 16s.
     
  11. Number1Coach

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    You never go backwards , always forwards .

    see last year he was no.180 nationally in the 18's ,he is no.7 now why would you ever go back down to the 16's ? to sandbag and crush players? does nothing for your game and builds false confidence right ? the next goal is the futures and challengers and a few jrs as needed .
     
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    Well go win the 18s!!!!!!!!
     
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    Would he still be able to play the 16s?
     
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    He is no. 7 in US not ITF, right?
    Playing to WIN the 16s Orange Bowl will put more pressure on him than 18s. That's what you want him to be a "champion".

    Of course, unless 16s entrants are only boys he already beat. I would think he will meet some good, physically mature 16s ITF boys in final rounds, don't you think?
     
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    Consider when Barry Bonds got struck out by a female softball pitcher although everything seemed the same there was quite a difference underhand ,bigger ball ect. But ultimately we all know the major difference was Bonds was use to seeing a certain ball and its a different level.

    When you are hitting with some of the top 18 year olds that are getting ready to head for the NCAA and your also hitting with a lot of top college guys and then you decide to go down and play with 16 year olds you would have to change a lot , your hits would have to be with 16 yr olds to get ready for a ball that has a lot less on it , your reaction time would have to be adjusted, your return of serve would have to be adjusted , ect.

    You would end up making lots of errors, overhits, he would still get the job done but would walk out frustrated because thats not what he has been training for over the last year and a half, it would have nothing to do with pressure at that point .

    Once again anytime my player is on the court he knows "he has everything to lose" whether his opponent is 16 or 25 he could "lose the match" so the pressure is all the same no matter how old the opponent is !! My player is a true competitor!
     
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    I know he's home coached, but sounds like DB could benefit from at least some hits with Harold Solomon. He has helped some pro players and might help broaden DB's capabilities. He made a ton of money frustrating his opponents.

    He dropped out of college (Rice U.), by the way.
     
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    Not sure who he is or who has worked with , do you have some names of current pros over the last 10 years he has worked with ? also where is he located ?

    as for college it is not a bad thing it just not for every body see below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwkL971ZQrg&feature=share&list=UUIjE0s7su7iZvSOBABUMQVQ
     
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    From Wikipedia:

    Harold Solomon (born September 17, 1952, in Washington, D.C.) is a former American professional tennis player during the 1970s and 1980s. He achieved a career-high ranking of No. 5 in the world in 1980.
    He ranked among the world's Top 10 singles players four out of five consecutive years: 1976, 1978, 1979 and 1980.



    Coaching career

    Solomon began coaching in the early 1990s. He is largely identified with women's pro Mary Joe Fernandez, whom he tutored for five years.

    He also helped Jennifer Capriati return to top form in the late 1990s. He was initially contacted by Jennifer's father, but said he would not coach her until Jennifer called him herself. After she did, he helped lead her to two titles in 1999 and to the semifinals in the Australian Open. In 2000, however, Solomon and Capriati parted ways after he was frustrated by her lack of focus. She would then go on to win 3 Grand Slams and obtain the Number One ranking.

    He also aided and refined the careers of Jim Courier, Justin Gimelstob, Monica Seles, Mirjana Lučić, Anna Kournikova, and Daniela Hantuchová.[5] Solomon has also coached players in the finals of Grand Slam Events, and to Gold and Silver medals at the Olympic Games.[6]

    In 2007 former world # 3 Brian Gottfried joined the coaching staff at the Harold Solomon Tennis Institute in Fort Lauderdale.[3]

    He also worked with Elena Dementiava before her retirement.
     
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    Nice resume , will look at him as others once we stall or our progress flattens out.
     
  21. floridatennisdude

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    Sounds expensive to me.
     
  22. Tennishacker

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    But who has he developed from scratch?

    Players listed worked with many other coaches.
     
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    His specialty is not developing players from scratch. Many pros work with more than one coach. Curious to know more about your point?
     
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    Come on Andfor he is saying it because that's my argument to all on here that tell me I can't take DB all the way when none of them have been down the road themselves ,, yet they are experts on what it takes.
     
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    My mistake, I though the discussion was about developing a junior from scratch.
     
  26. NLBwell

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    I brought Solomon up for "aiding and refining." He got to #5 in the world with a game based on "pushing" (at a pro level). Something that could help broaden DB's game and also help him defeat players of that ilk
    I'm sure it isn't cheap.
     
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    I think Deit needs to be working really hard on his serve and his return of serve.Brad do u ever use a heart rate monitor with Deit? Alot of players really benefit from using the monitor so they can learn to control their arousal level. If a player can control their arousal level it can really help their game.You dont wanna be too high or two low learn to control that and good things happen.
     
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    Solomon was a "grinder".
     
  29. NLBwell

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    Whatever you want to call it.
     
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    Solomon was defintely a pusher, even now when you see the young juniors from his academy they all play that 70's style of tennis with the ball 15-20 feet over the net. For sure a style that is not fun to watch it does not do well for the grow of tennis popularity. Very few people enjoy watching moonballs..
     
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    Not saying that someone 6'5" like DB should be a pusher, just that it might help round him out if he is exposed to it. Seems to have helped some pros.
     

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