Brad Gilbert: "Nadal will finish the year with the number one ranking."

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  1. Chicane

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    Got this straight from Brad Gilbert's blog. I think very highly of BG and I think he might be right with this prediction. The man likes to talk but he knows what he is talking about. We'll see...



    5.14.2007

    It took him seven years but tomorrow Andy Murray finally makes it out of his teens. He’s got a tricky draw in Hamburg and has to take on Volandri who had a career win last week against Fed.

    Rolf is just a beast. The guy is playing like an animal and is on a monster role. I’m going to say it right here and now: Nadal will finish the year with the number one ranking. The big news in the tennis world this weekend was Federer splitting from his coach Tony Roche. The last time he rocked his coach he won 3 out the 4 majors. I’m going to give him some slack because sometimes tennis players need time to think.

    Serbia has become the new Belgium of tennis. They’ve got 3 players in the top 10 and had a great week with Ivanovic winning in Berlin and Zimonjic capturing the doubles title in Rome.
     
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  2. tennis_hand

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    save this thread for the year-end.
     
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  3. Kim

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    Deep inside, he knows this will fire up Fed. When people talk "badly" of Fed, I notice he gets that motivations again to dominate...case in point Djoko, Roddick...The thing is Fed and Nad are too friendly with each other. But when people begin saying things like what Gilbert has said, it will, hopefully, fuel Fed's fire again...and Brad knows that :)
     
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  4. thu_huong

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    Yes, the end-year:mad:
     
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  5. tennis_hand

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    He is in a slump form after his best form in AO and Dubai.
    He didn't have a hump during the whole AO. Usually he will have an easy match followed by a tough match and an easy match again. That he didn't experience this in AO means this cycle is no longer match-based, but tournament based, and this is more dangerous.

    So he will be back again. it probably takes some time. but he'll make it during the year.
     
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  6. War Safin!

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    If Federer fails dramatcially at the French (and Nadal wins) then Nadal will only be 1100 pts or so behind Federer.

    Of course, we have to assume that Federer will be back on-course for another Wimbledon and US Open each, which should be enough to ensure his #1 sport by end of 2007.
     
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  7. roysid

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    Probably Nadal will win Hamburg and French. And Fed will make the finals of both. Gap between them will still be 2000.

    But also Nadal may lose before Wimbledon final. And Fed wins. In that case Fed again increases his lead.
     
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  8. Baghdatis72

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    Quite unexpected statement from Gilbert but he doesn't explain why he thinks that this is the case :rolleyes:
     
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  9. Chicane

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    Guys, the way Federer has been playing right now, I don't see how he will pass through the third round @ Hamburg. Being in the same quarter as Djokovic doesn't help Fed's chance to advance to the final, either. Federer is leading by 2140 points right now and I can see the margin to be reduced to under 2000 points by the end of the week.
     
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  10. Baghdatis72

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    If Nadal wins Hamburg too and Federer fails to reach one of the final stages of the tournament then the difference will fall to around 1800 points.
     
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  11. J-man

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    If Nadal can keep consistant during the summer hardcourt season and the indoor he could take it.
     
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    Even 1000 points is still a lot of points. look at the gap behind Nadal. They are separated by tens of points. That is called close.

    and now we are in clay season. don't be fooled that Nadal will be in the final of every event he is in on grass and fast hard court season.
     
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  13. Baghdatis72

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    Yeah but let's not forget that 1 mistake in the Wimbledon or the US Open can lead to the loss of many hundreds of points for Federer and he also has to defend a few other MS events and the MS cup at the end of the year.
     
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  14. pound cat

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    Nadal is tip-toeing his way to #1 in a modest and unassuming way. I would love to see him as #1 and an end to some of the Federer bravado which of which I've had enough. Nadal...a completely different personality.
     
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  15. RedWeb

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    Gilbert may soon be looking for another charge... Did anyone see Andy get injured this morning? While I agreed with the announcers that its Andy's call to quit the match, the way he relates to Gilbert makes me think their relationship is soon to be over and that Murray is a long way from having the maturity to win the big one. What a momma's boy!
     
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  16. predrag

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    Brad Gilbrt picking somebody to do well is kiss of death

    :)


    Regards Predrag




     
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  17. Andres

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    Personally, I don't expect Federer to make it to the finals at the French this year.
     
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  18. Rhino

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    Agreed. If Gibert says it then it usually doesn't happen.
     
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  19. MasterTS

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    So I make this post last week and we have people whining that I'm trolling.. now we have brad gilbert saying it and its "genius"? lol
     
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  20. Wondertoy

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    Gilbert speaks loud and wants to be controversal but is rarely right. He talked himself into a great gig for lots of money but he really doesn't offer value for the money as a coach.
     
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  21. predrag

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    I disagree here.
    I think he is excellent coach. He did help Agassi and did help Roddick. And is
    helping Murray.
    But as far as picking players that would do good he is usually wrong.

    Regards, Predrag
     
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  22. johnny ballgame

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    Agree, that is the key. I personally believe that Rafa will have better success than Fed will at Cincy and Toronto. Also, Rafa might go further in the US Open than Fed will at Roland Garros. So it should come down to who does better at the Masters Cup. Should be fun to watch.
     
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  23. hrishi5

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    I don't think this prediction has too much substance behind it. I mean its pretty obvious Brad is getting carried away witnessing Nadal demolish his opponents so easily on clay as yet. We all know Nadal is a beast on clay and we all expected him to rise up to the occasion on clay, so its no surprise seeing him pull off such streaks on his strongest surface. I guess its human nature to get carried away. Let the clay season conclude and then we will see how much of Brad's prediction actually comes true. And I don't think it will. Tennis isn't only about the clay season. Lets see how well Nadal does come the hardcourt season. I think only then can we put something reasonable forward.
     
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  24. Eviscerator

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    Good points and I would be shocked to see Nadal in the final of Wimbledon again unless they have slowed the courts and balls even more than usual.
     
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  25. johnny ballgame

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    Do you think Indian Wells is any indication of how the summer hardcourt season will go?
     
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  26. Morrissey

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    They call you a troll because you say things they don't want to hear. You said it first before Brad Gilbert and now people listen to him. Ironic.
     
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  27. noeledmonds

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    It is remakable how everyone on this board seems unable to look at things in perspective and take a step back. Nadal has a bad start to the year and everyone says he will fall way down the rankings, now Nadal plays well and Federer has some poor performances and everyone presumes Nadal will take Federer's number 1 ranking. In the past in tennis it is very rare for players to simply fall away or indeed remain unbeaten without poor results. At the final of Wimbledon last year many thought Nadal would take over Federer, or even if he lost the final he would push for the number 1 ranking with more consitant performances. This was not the case. There are always ebbs and flows as players go through good patches and bad patches. This does not mean that their form will spiral in that direction, be it a positive or negative direction. Personally I think Federer will mantain his number 1 ranking and Nadal will maintain his number 2 ranking.
     
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  28. HollerOne5

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    Who cares about the 52 week ranking when it comes to talking about the year end. Nadal has over a 100 point lead in the race, and will obviously increase that even more over Hamburg and Roland Garros. All he has to do is worry about winning enough to stay ahead of Federer from there on out in the race. Very possible with Federer's play of late.

    Look at it, if Nadal wins Hamburg, he will have won 4 out of 5 masters series events, with Fed winning 0. Thats incredible. Then after the french they will have one a slam each. Umm...thats a pretty big difference. Fed will have to out perform Nadal by that margin or so in the second half of the year. Probably a tough task.
     
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  29. HollerOne5

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    and BTW, since we are saving this thread until the end of the year, mark my words when I say the top 3 will be all very close, with Djokovic in the mix as well. I wouldn't even be suprised if he sneaks out a slam this year, and Djokovic WILL get a win over Federer this year for sure. Just watch.....
     
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  30. Morrissey

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    I didn't realize it until you put it that way. Sometimes we look ahead and not with the recent results. That would be amazing if he wins 4 of 5 Masters Series events and then a FO. Any other year he could coast the rest of the way to a clear and easy number one ranking.
     
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  31. simi

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    Here we have Roger Federer, who many say is the very best to ever play the game, albeit a 'work in progress'. Then this talk of him losing his #1 ranking, however remote and unlikely, remains a possibility. Makes Sampras' six consecutive years finishing at #1 all the more impressive...and an undervalued achievement.
     
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  32. fastdunn

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    Actually, Roger playing level went down from Wimbledon 2006.
    Basically he won Wimbledon 2006 , US Open 2006, AO 2007
    on his B+ or A- game.

    Now he often shows his B or C game and many in the rest of tours
    are approaching A game.

    Even if Roger recovers his A game, it's not going to be as easy as his 2005
    or 2006. The rest of tour is catching up.

    But it's good thing for him to win 2007 AO.
    He'll probably end up as #1. All he has to do is to win Wimbledon or US Open.
     
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  33. edberg505

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    Oh, you mean just like Brad picked him to win the Aussie Open this year? Hahahaha. Take this guy's predictions with the proverbial grain of salt.
     
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  34. Andres

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    Indeed, but Fed has the grass tourneys, Wimbledon, the fast MS (toronto, cincinatti, madrid and SPECIALLY Paris), plus the USO. Plus the Masters.

    It's true, point wise, 4 MS eclipse 1 GS. Hell, they are even with 2 slams. With one slam (FO), and 4 MS shields, Federer HAS to win USO and Wimby. Now, it's down to the rest of the MS, where Fed usually performs better than Nadal.

    It's going to be one heck of a race. Nadal has showed his confidence is up in the sky, and he's going to battle his way trough the slower hardcourt MS.
     
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  35. ibemadskillzz

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    Nadal needs to lift more weights to generate more pop on his forehand and backhand, then he will be able to dominate Federer at the US Open and wimbledon.
    Also if Nadal improves a lot on his serves, Fed will lose at wimbledon to Nadal.
     
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  36. power_play21

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    lol thats actually pretty funny
     
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  37. Chicane

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    Can you elaborate? What did Gilbert do?
     
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  38. Mikael

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    Federer can't keep his 2003-2006 level up forever. Federer's domination has been so intense that people have started associating a kind of "mystique" to his performances. But he's not a "super hero"! He's just much more talented than the average tennis player. However, his awesome game rests a lot on his footwork, much more than, say, Sampras. He doesn't have a huge serve or huge groundies that he can use when he gets tired or doesn't move so well anymore. His game is much more about fluidity, which is what makes it extremely pleasant to watch BTW. Unfortunately it also means that Federer is a lot more vulnerable to aging. Maybe what we are witnessing are already the effects of aging, or maybe it is only a mini-slump. However, given Federer's age and given the amount of tennis he's played in the past 3 years, I woudn't be surprised if this were the beginning of his decline. Still, I'm picking him to end the year no1 again, with a much narrower lead though. 2008 could be the year Nadal overtakes him.
     
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  39. CyBorg

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    Gilbert says a lot of things.
     
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  40. VamosRafa

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    If Volandri can get a win over Fed, that opens the door for players other than just Djokovic.
     
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    I don't see Nadal doing much damage in the summer. I think he'll have a very competitive Wimbledon (semifinal most likely), but falter in the following couple of months on speedier hardcourts. The US Open in particular plays to all of Nadal's weaknesses - he can muster a better result than last year but I don't see him winning on such a fast surface.

    The indoor season is where Nadal should pick up some extra points. Madrid in particular.
     
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  42. RedWeb

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    It appeared that Gilbert was shaking his head in disbelief and had the attitude that "hey, get back out there and try to play". Murray tried and that lasted two hits before it was clear that he could not continue. Murray then went off on one of his all-to-common tirades at Gilbert using every curse word in the book, with the "F" word coming out loud and clear serveral times. Then when Murray left the court he would not even look or talk to Gilbert who was chasing him down under the main grandstands.
     
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    Let's not forget Federer is still 2100 points ahead of Nadal - even after
    all of Nadal's recent wins. If Fed fails to win either the USO or Wimbledon, Nadal would still need to either win or go very deep in the GS to make up the difference.

    Joe
     
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    I wouldn't translate Brad Gibert's words literally.

    He often makes a strong statement that gives some insight.

    The guy sometimes has very different thoughts on how things works
    but he does offer very rare insights sometimes...

    Nadal was asked (right after FO 2006) if he could overtake #1 in 2006.
    "Oh-no. impossible. roger play unbelievable. impossible."
    then a few seconds later.
    "but he can't play like this forever. maybe i can try in 2007..."
     
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    maybe it would add some validity to his comments if he even knew how to use the english language, it's "monster roll" not "monster role" you dumbarse...
     
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    the problem is that you made this prediction 3 freaking years ago and look what happend...you said fed was washed up 3 years ago, what a maroon...
     
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    LOL maybe he's playing the role of a monster? BTW, who in the hell is Rolf?
     
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  48. J-man

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    It's funny because most of those hard flat hitting players that Nadal has trouble with (Blake, Berdych ect) can't play on grass all that well. Which leaves the gate open for Nadal at Wimbledon. But reach the hardcourt summer season a surface that Nadal can still play on, he gets beat by the Blake's and Berdych's.
     
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  49. fastdunn

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    The thing is that grass courts now bounces very high and I'm not sure
    if it's so much for flat hitters like it used to be.

    Having same finalists at both French Open and WImbledon 2007
    is no coincident, IMHO.
     
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  50. tennis_hand

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    wherever Roddick does well, Nadal will falter. :D i.e. the US Open for sure.
     
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