Brands should me made to prove their technology.

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  1. High street sw19

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    This is really starting to "grind my gears".

    With BS reaching a all time high from racquet and string brands, I think the governing industry body the TIA, should start a quality system to demand it's members prove their technology.

    In any other industry you could not get away with such lies regarding claims and construction methods without backing it up with some facts.

    In reality there are a few Chinese plants making everyone's racquets with the same material just different (marginal at best) shapes. They are all Graphite/fiberglass, (still after almost thirty years), not much has changed...only the amount of 'Grey area Bull----ting."
     
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  2. High street sw19

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    Of course none of the above applies to Yonex......and good on them !
     
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  4. High street sw19

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    Ace....that's over my head :-|
     
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  5. High street sw19

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    Is that Marky Mark ?
     
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    All the technologies are real! I opened the butt-cap of my Bio 200 and sucked the honey dry!
     
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    Heads innergia and youtek technology was actually real
    The material was D30 which was used in mountain biking to be soft when riding and then to stiffen up upon impact
     
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    Wow after the "Why you made you get your racquet" thread that started with some hilarity, I thought "Brands should me made to prove their technology" would have had the same effect...

    That said I guess it would only be fair for me to chime in with my thoughts on the subject of this thread... We all know the basics of how a tennis racquet is constructed has not really changed in the past 25+ years, being made of some sort of graphite composite. Racquet companies basically mix in small amounts of some other material like Kevlar, Twaron, Basalt, Innegra, etc or mess with the direction of the graphite fibers are laid down or braided, all to change the feel and/or "dampen vibration". Pretty much all the tennis racquet companies do that which then leads to the way they market their "technology". And yes even Yonex is guilty of the marketing... I mean c'mon, one can't honestly say "VCORE Spin with 3D Control" that Yonex markets is any better than what any other company advertises about the so called tech they have in their racquets? Anyway, in my honest opinion there really isn't anything here that should grind your gears..find a racquet you like and play with it until you find another racquet you like or not, but to me it's really not that complicated.
     
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    Fair comment, although it's not about me buying into the BS it's the market in general, and I am coming from a point of over 25 years in manufacturing in Asia, in the case of tennis. it's very much a case that "It doesn't do what it say's on the tin".
    My product choice is neither here or there and racquets do not make me play better the amount of pints I have the night before a match does ;-)
     
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    I believe his funky bunch are hiding in the background somewhere.
    Given you've only been on here a couple months you're quite cynical and jaded already HS, maybe a break from tennis forums and more court time would be my prescription!
     
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    Yeah but you know what it's pretty funny the level of geekism (sic) that goes on here, I mean really?....hang on my back hand cross court was crap this morning maybe my string was off tension by half a Kg, or was it my racquet was 5g heavier than last time ;-)
     
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    While I agree with your ideas there is a major problem with that.

    If companies had to prove their technologies there would be no new technologies, LMAO.
     
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    This thread was done in after only three paragraphs. "In any other industry you could not get away with such lies" suggests you need to get out of the house a bit more. Haven't you heard that your laundry detergent "now gets whites whiter and brights brighter"??
     
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    Yeah but I'm not paying two hundred bucks for a box of washing powder....maybe you are, but I'm not.
     
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    That's not even a logical retort. Laundry detergent is soooo much easier to produce than tennis rackets and the cost to do so is much less also.

    If every company just said "here's our new paint job for the year" I'm pretty sure that they would go out of business and rackets would get so much more boring. Why do you care what they call their new line anyway? If you're a decent player, you should know that a new crazy material isn't going to help your game. Technique and timing will. You know that, so ignore the marketing and buy what you like/what works for you.
     
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  16. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    It's Mark Wahlberg from M. Night Shyamalan's "The Happening". Trust me, he wasn't the only one doing the "What the hell just happened" look, EVERYONE who watched that movie wanted to know what they just watched.

    These technologies are real, at least most are, but here are the problems:

    1) Marketers pray on the general public's ignorance. The general public don't really know what they're talking about. Take Babolat's Cortex gimmick. It's a rubber piece and Babolat says it'll reduce SHOCK. We all know dampener only do nothing against shock.

    2) Skill level is inversely proportional to number of tennis players. Meaning, there are less people with higher ratings than there people with lower ratings. It's likely that the bulk of these lower rated players don't know anything about stroke mechanics and stroke production. So when a product "promises" more spin/power/comfort, they buy into it. Whereas a more advanced player, s/he knows the outcome of a shot is largely dependent on the player. As in, if you hit flat, you can hit with barbed wires and you still won't get much spin out of it. Marketers would rather pray on the masses of newbies, and let go of the few advanced players who are immune to BS claims.

    3) We don't really know how much of said technology is in the product. Sure, materials such as Graphene are indeed real. But how much of it is in the racquet? That information is not disclosed to the public. Let's say the racquet only has 1% of Graphene, if they put it in strategic places, cool. But what if it's just 1% spread over the ENTIRE racquet, would it really matter? 1% Graphene at strategic places of the racquet, sure, I'll buy it. But if it's 1% over the entire mass of the racquet, please.
     
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  17. Dave M

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    True enough, I just hate to see people get bogged down in it all!
    I've seen a tiny bit of that, but the look on his face is such a great post for on here
     
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