Brasil Open 2013

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  1. MichaelNadal

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    Silly my ***. When he strings more than 4 good points together against a journeyman we'll talk.
     
  2. RAFA2005RG

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    I know! I wonder how different they would be posting if Nadal had won the meaningless 2nd set tiebreaker in Chile final.
     
  3. Ralph

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    His opponent didn't make one first serve, and hit how many unforced errors?

    Yep, my twin brother makes the best return game of the year :)
     
  4. MichaelNadal

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    There's a reason why he just celebrated like he won the WTF. He was struggling 80% of the match.
     
  5. RAFA2005RG

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    And Nadal completes his 4th straight sets victory of 2013, from just 5 outings.
     
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    comeback success continues as nadal breezes into another QF :)
     
  7. RAFA2005RG

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    Whatever hater.
     
  8. romeo8880

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    Exactly. There's no hiding that fact that Nadal looks horrible right now. It's expected of course since he's very rusty. I just hope he shakes the rust off.
     
  9. Towser83

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    Dude, you're not even hiding your trolling now. Usually you at least keep people half believing you're serious and just a super ****.
     
  10. MichaelNadal

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    I hope so too man. I didn't expect too much from him, and this is still below almost anyone's expectations. I really hope he can start feeling confident and playing somewhat aggressive again. It doesn't even look right seeing guys who's faces could be on a lucky charms box hit him off the court.
     
  11. RAFA2005RG

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    But no rush, he has until the 2nd week of Roland Garros. And the way Djokovic played one-legged Nadal in the RG final, I don't think rust is a big deal anyway.
     
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    This is probably the first time I'm gonna say this but if this is what Rafa is capable on CLAY these days...imagine HCs!

    He should retire :(
     
  13. RAFA2005RG

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    "Guys"? Nadal has won 4 of his 5 matches, and all in straight sets. You truly are silly.
     
  14. RAFA2005RG

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    Why would he play on hardcourts? Roland Garros and Wimbledon are the real slams. And so far he's won 4 of his 5 matches, and all in straight sets. And the highest ranked opponent he's played is Chardy 25, Nadal won 6-2 6-2.
     
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  15. ruerooo

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    *sigh* Look. The guy had a very big serve – did you see his previous match? – and I have no doubt Rafa was playing cautiously because of the problems they had with the court earlier. You know he traveled elsewhere in order to practice, right? He's not going to run and slide like it's Philippe Chatrier when there were holes in the court earlier and no one is sure if it had the chance to dry properly.

    You sound like Clarky.

    And stop making fun of Joao's face.
     
  16. MichaelNadal

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    Serena would have taken him to school today lol. She'd have like 20 aces too.
     
  17. Lovely_Bone

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    Joao was the only (mean word) to give me lip when I was a ball kid. His match was my very first one ball kidding EVER, and I stepped on court the first time, super nervous, and then he didn't even speak english and would tell me things and expect that I knew what he was telling me to do, and when I hesitated for even a second he freaked out. Luckily he was outted by Anderson in the first round.

    He was also really cryptic about asking for his towel -_-
    Glad to see Rafa get him out of there.
     
  18. RAFA2005RG

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    Nadal would have double-bagelled Serena today. Even Chardy would have.
     
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    Less than 30% return points won (2 1st serve points total) and he wins in straights??? Sounds like a gift-wrapped Brazilian post-Carneval present.
     
  20. RAFA2005RG

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    That is why Nadal has won 4 of his 5 matches, and all in straight sets, including 6-2 6-2 over 25-ranked Chardy. Nadal is clutch and takes his opportunities, however few they may be. The only opportunity he missed (if you can call it an opportunity) was in the 2nd set of the Chile final when Nadal was 2 points from winning the Chile final in straight sets. I'm thankful that Nadal lost Chile. If he won, then the silent ban fans would be having a field day. Since he lost, only the retirement fans are having a field day.
     
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  21. MichaelNadal

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    He won 2 first serve points all match against this guy? I knew it was bad but damn.
     
  22. Clarky21

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    Oh, come on. Nadal is playing Godawful right now. He's playing a mile back, terrified, and so defensive it's pathetic. He refuses to hit flatter and go for more winners, and instead chooses to get pushed around by players who are barely in the top 150. He also refuses to do anything about his horrible ros. He should NOT be struggling against players like this or that mug he lost to in Chile. I think you need to wake up to reality.

    And I agree that if this is all he's got he needs to retire, pronto. No need continuing on destroying records it took him years to build up by losing to mugs and journeyman. He should seriously consider getting out of dodge and quick.
     
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  23. ruerooo

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    Aww. I'm sorry he didn't treat you well, seriously.

    That said, I'm hoping it wasn't a situation where you're North American and the tournament was somewhere in South America and you went down there with not a lick of either Spanish or Portuguese and expected people to understand you automatically …?

    :-?

    Seriously, I commented on this the other day (and I'm a FEDAL fan, so no bashing here) – Roger gives his pressers in English & French, and people cheer. Rafa gives his in English & Spanish, and people boo, whine, and complain. I don't understand it.
     
  24. Clarky21

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    I'm not surprised at all. Nadal's return has always been crap but it's is so bad right now he belongs in challengers, and even then he would probably still lose. His ros is worse than some of the weekend hackers down at the local tennis courts.
     
  25. cc0509

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    Clarky, didn't you tell me in another thread that since Nadal has just come back from injury, he is not expected to win the FO? So why are you judging him so harshly for his play at a nothing tournament in S. America?
     
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    How can anyone watch him right now and expect him to win a slam when he can't even beat clowns and mugs in 250 events? I expect more of him in these dinky tournaments than I do in a slam right now. He should not be struggling this badly against these guys.
     
  27. RAFA2005RG

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    Mr Clarky, the highest ranked player Nadal played in 2013 is Chardy 25, and Nadal won 6-2 6-2. So once again, you look extremely dumb. Just as dumb as you looked last year when you said Djokovic would sweep Nadal on clay (Nadal ended up going 3-0 vs Djokovic on clay).
     
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  28. MichaelNadal

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    Lmao at this post, but it's actually probably true. He won TWO first serve points all match against this guy in a match he WON. That's alarming. If he played anyone in the top 20 how many would he have won? No bag of sugar is big enough to coat the facts of the matter today.
     
  29. Rocky89

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    It looked like Nadal played worse then Chile if possible. While the stats are alarming and there was a lot of negatives in this match, I think talking about retirement is a bit premature.

    I could go on and on about how bad he played, but instead I'll try and look at the positives:

    1. He didn't receive a time violation
    2. His kit looks good
    3. He ran down one drop shop
    3. He celebrated like he still has motivation
    4. He didn't slip and fall

    ...ummm I guess that's it :p

    Negatives:

    1. Everything else
     
  30. Clarky21

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    If he still has motivation he ain't showing it with his lousy play. He needs to take his *** back to Mallorca and stop embarrassing himself.
     
  31. Clarky21

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    It is true. There are better players than Nadal kicking around in challengers right now. He's in sad shape, and I would rather see him retire than continue on like this.
     
  32. MichaelNadal

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    I don't even think his kit looks good lol. I miss this guy.....

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    It was slim pickings for my positives list. I had to work with what I had :)

    But in all seriousness though, at least he still looks driven to win, it's just a matter of whether he has the ability to improve enough to do it. At this rate, I don't think he will for a while.
     
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    He looked good then, but he'd look a bit silly with the capris now.

    I might be in the minority but I actually really like his new kit, the purple and the short shorts especially lol.
     
  35. MichaelNadal

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    I don't think he should go back to the 07 and before capri's, but his shorts were perfect in 08. And at least you wouldn't see the knee tape that might as well have wounded animal written all over it.

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  36. hersito

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    I'm glad that after 2 weeks and 6 matches everyone is starting to see what I saw in the first match. He is playing around 60 or 70 % of his capability and unfortunately it might be not enough to win a 250, and his retirement of the doubles shows that he thinks he is not as fit as he though he would be.
     
  37. RAFA2005RG

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    When Nadal wins 2013 Roland Garros, I hope MichaelNadal is nowhere to be seen. He is not a true Nadal fan. Ruthlessly crucifying Nadal for showing rust after an 8 month break.
     
  38. MichaelNadal

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    Tomato/Tomahto, Crucifying/Telling it how it is.
     
  39. The_Order

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    Nadal atm is lacking confidence in his game and also the rubbish courts up there.

    He needs time to find his form, I think the fact that he's winning after being out for so long and lacking confidence is a good sign. If he can keep winning, especially if he can get a title, the confidence will start to come back and we'll see Rafa hit form.
     
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    Will this account of yours still be active by then?
     
  41. Crisstti

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    Gee people, so much negativity :-?

    He was not playing well when he came back in 2009 either.

    You guys could try being a little supportive.

    I do find his withdrawal from the doubles worrying.
     
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    Why? It's a VERY smart move.

    First of all, why over play? The only reason he signed up for doubles in the first place is because he wants to find form. But if it's going to be at the expense of over playing then better he pulls out.

    Secondly, it is well documented that the courts up there are dangerous. Why risk injury by playing lots of matches on those courts?
     
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    As bad as Nadal was playing when he came back in 2009, this is much worse. There is much to be negative about right now. He's in sad shape.
     
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    Why overplay is not the question. He thought he could handle it and that it'd be a good idea because it'd help him get into form. Now he decides he better rest?. Doesn't that indicate that his knee is in worse shape than he had expected?.

    It could also be that he doesn't want to risk injury because of the state of the courts, but that is not the reason he gave.

    I guess it could also be due to how much he played in Chile. Maybe he had signed up for the doubles on both tournaments thinking that he could lose early in Viña.
     
  45. Crisstti

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    How is he playing worse?. Maybe he is, but he's been out for a lot longer this time.

    He's come back from similar things many times before, and he's just started playing again. There's nothing that would warrant such negativity from his fans.
     
  46. MichaelNadal

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    He was playing way better competition in 2009 than he is right now.
     
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    In 2009 he came back and made the quarters in Canada, a semifinal in Cinci, and then made the semis at the USO. All on hardcourt. He also made a final in Beijing and Shanghai. He has already lost a final on clay to some mug ranked 73 who had never even won a title. Now he is struggling in Brasil as well. Were you a fan back then? If so you should know as bad as it was in 2009 that this is much, much worse.
     
  48. Crisstti

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    We don't know how he'd be doing if he was playing on hc. Or against better competition. He didn't play on clay when he came back in 2009 either so we cant actually know.

    He had awful losses in 2009. Though they were against better players. I don't think we can compare all that much.

    The loss to a 73rd ranked player who'd never won an ATP title looks awful indeed, but it's also just one match and he's coming off a very, very long lay off. And Zeballos did play a lot better than his ranking or resume would indicate.

    Much more worried than about any of this I am about how his knee might actually be.

    (I was a fan back then, but I wasn't following quite as closely).
     
  49. cc0509

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    LOL, are you serious? If he had to play in a hc tournament right now against either Federer, Murray or Djokovic, he would be crushed.
     
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    Keep trying to justify, GOATS do not lose to players ranked 73rd or 100th in the world.
     

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