bringing a 2 year-old to australian open

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  1. chloeToh

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    We will be taking our 2-year-old to Australian Open next year and are looking for suggestions and advices. We are concern with the heat and sun, so we plan to attend night matches most of the time. Staying at a hotel that is relatively close, so one of us could take our child back to the hotel if she is in foul mood. Planning to bring new toys and books to keep her entertain.

    Very nervous about the trip, any suggestion or recommendation would be greatly appreciated.
     
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  2. TimothyO

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    This is a very, very bad idea.

    Clearly you already recognize the danger of leaving a two year old in the hot sun for such an extended period.

    A two year old isn't going to be able to walk the grounds as an adult. Distances too great, especially in that sun. That means having a stroller to manage.

    And the poor fans sitting near you...a two year old doesn't understand the need to remain quiet.

    Don't subject yourself, your child, your fellow fans, and the players to this.
     
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  3. Chivo

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    Leave the kid with a family member...I see zero reason to bring a 2 year old to any sporting event.
     
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  4. Cindysphinx

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    First-time parents. They're *adorable!*
     
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  5. McLovin

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    I agree. You should bring me instead...
     
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    I've got to quote this for truth. Your daughter is going to get nothing from this experience and it's highly likely to be a negative experience for everyone else: both parents, other fans, and the players if she has a tantrum at the wrong time.
     
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  7. tennis tom

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    BRING ME! BRING ME! I have the maturity of a 2 YO and I can change my own Depends. NAH, I want to go to Disneyland!
     
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  8. tennis tom

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    YUP, and if your kid bursts out crying, while Serena is foot faulting match point away, she might threaten to shove a ball down it's throat to shut it up--but maybe you could get 10% of the $92,000 fine and your kid could be the poster child for the "No Kid Left Crying Behind in the Grandstands Foundation" and be the spokes-model for Nike's new line of infant tennis apparel.
     
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  9. sureshs

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    She already said it was for night matches.

    Children can be pushed around in strollers.

    If the baby cries, it can be taken out for some time and brought back.

    If bringing a baby is allowed, "poor fans" can either boycott the event or suck it up. No need to bear the expense of a baby sitter. A family that watches AO together stays together. Irritated fans are free to complain and then leave. It is called living in a society.
     
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    Sadly, I have to agree with these comments, at least for the most part. I took my 2-year old daughter to the Cincinnati open semi-finals and she wanted to leave the stadium less than five minutes after the match started. The really sad part was that people seated next to us frowned and contorted their faces upon seeing us with a 2-year old even as we walked into the stadium fifteen minutes before the match started.

    My daughter liked the crowd and the setting but did not like the silence when the match started. She did have a blast though running around on the grounds and food court area as I watched the match on the giant TV screen outside the stadium.

    Also, FYI, Cincinnati tournament requires a ticket purchase for anyone over the age of 12 months!!

     
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  11. VaththalKuzhambu

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    I wholeheartedly agree with your stand on this, especially since I even purchased a ticket for my daughter. However, apart from the concern of the nearby folks, a 2 year old is not going to stay put once the match is in play.

     
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    Aren't they:)......that said only they know their child. Can she/he sit still in the stadium? Is a 2 yr old really going to sit for hours ( hahahaha sorry) minutes while you try to watch matches? I have 3 kids and at 2 NONE of mine could even sit thru a 80min Disney cartoon....but a packed, noisy, HOT (and I bet for a 2yr old BORING) tennis event does not look like a great idea.
     
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    A two year old will not remember being there, nor will she enjoy the experience of sitting still and being quiet.

    See if the hotel has a babysitter who can watch her, or leave her behind with your folks.
     
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  14. Cindysphinx

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    No, they don't know their child, as they have never observed their child on a hot night in a crowded stadium on break point.

    Children are about as predictable as wild animals -- which also shouldn't be brought to important sporting events.
     
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    Exactly. Which is why it's a good thing Koellerer was banned. He qualifies for both of those categories.
     
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  16. tennis tom

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    By the time it CRIES!--it's TOO LATE!--to take it out-- Serena has f-f'ed and is half way up the stands, in a roid-rage, yelling "WHO's RUG RAT WAS THAT?"--"I'VE GOT A BALL FOR THAT RUG RAT TO PLAY WITH!"

    Highly unlikely, taking a baby, half way around the world to bond at a GS, will keep a marriage together--more likely help to end it like the majority of marriages do today--my brother and ex-took their babes everywhere for years, hanging them in hammocks in the bulkhead aisle--and they're divorced today--but they weren't tennis players.

    Living in a society has it's RESPONSIBILITIES as well as its rights. One of those is NOT the right to disturb professional players's fine finely tuned sensibilities, playing for their lives and mortgages, and, 25,000 people who paid good money to watch an event and not to hear a baby crying.
     
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  17. tennis tom

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    They're like pit bulls--you never know when they will bite or bark.
     
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  18. sureshs

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    It is very simple. Do not allow children.

    Is that the rule? No.

    That is all.

    It is not a matter of rights and responsibilities, so no need for the usual moral lecture. There is no constitutional right to attend a sporting event or to do so without distractions. There is no constitutional right to play tennis undisturbed.

    Why don't you petition the organizers not to allow children? If they agree, fine. If they don't, live with it. Why do you think they don't? Because there will be an outcry from parents.
     
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  19. sureshs

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    She may sleep most of the time, and cry when she wakes up, and then she can be taken out.

    If it happens in a very disturbing fashion, most parents will receive dirty looks from others, and automatically leave and watch the match in the garden with the giant TV. It is not a big deal. The ushers/security might even drop some hints.

    We should rely on people's common sense.
     
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    Because there is such a thing as common courtesy. Sometime you do things cause its the right thing to do. Hell they dont prohibit it because the they'll have every focus groups up there a**.
     
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  21. sureshs

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    Common courtesy would be leave and watch the match outside if the baby continues to cry loudly.

    And yes, society is made up of various groups who have their opinions. If you don't like something, try to get it changed or put up with it.
     
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    Plan on this.
    The two year old will be happier being much less constrained. You will be happier playing around with your kid instead of worried about every sound. The people in the stadium will be happier.
    Maybe you two could switch off so that one can watch inside and one can be outside with the child. Overall, however, I'd probably be happier playing at the park and watching a recording of the match after the 2 year old went to sleep. Of course, I'm pretty boring.
     
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  23. tennis tom

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    Boy you live in an alternative universe, is it called NYC?
     
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  24. sureshs

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    In the real universe, taking a 2 year old to a match is allowed. So you must be the one in the alternate universe.
     
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    Ha! Took my then two-and-a-half year old to the local futures tournament. At one point, she starts getting cranky, so I start taking her out; 'c'mon, we're going to get an ice cream'...'WAAAAAHHHH!! I WANT TO WATCH TENNIS!'

    One year later; me and the three year old at futures qualies: player few metres away: 'F$$$! C%$@!! $$$$$!' Me: 'right, we're off before you learn some new vocabulary'. Roving tournament official turns to colleague: '...and that's why we should enforce the obscenity rules.'
     
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    Most people are considerate--some are NOT--they are winning! If a stadium full of people should dare to object, there will be a 747 full of child advocates flying in from DC, forming an impromptu flash mob protesting, throwing organic baby food and soiled diapers at the sponsors, with a full contingent of media cameras showing it live on CNN breaking news. There are people who even bring infants to the courts, letting them cry the entire time while they have fun playing tennis--that's mainly on the left coast.
     
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    why would you put yourself, your child and the other spectators through that??
     
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    Yes, and if you protest it, that's called discrimination against children which has federal statutes against it--strange world we live in but the winners of the war make the rules and write the history.
     
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    If you do take your 2yr old child, make sure your not watching a David Ferrer match. Don't think he's fond of babies...
     
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  31. sureshs

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    No, it does not constitute discrimination against children. They have no rights to attend a sporting event either. Musical performances and plays and operas do not usually allow children. Neither do some restaurants and some places inside country clubs,

    You are just arguing without knowing the facts and creating an imaginary conflict to prove some agenda.
     
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    Thats a great clip ... shows how most people feel that an baby has no place at a tennis match.

    Yes the rules don't forbid you from bringing your child to a tennis match. But it is inconsiderate to the players as well as the other fans to do so.
     
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  33. sureshs

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    I feel that most Davis Cup "fans" have no place in a tennis audience.
     
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    I would characterize the extreme focus required to play our "elitist" sport/game on a level with a performance which is also a competition--exponentially adding another level of pressure. In order to maintain the extreme focus, as well as to hear the ball coming off the racket requires quiet and concentration. A sudden out of place sound, like a baby's out-burst disrupts that. Ex-mayor Dinkens of NYC, went so far as to have the flight patterns changed near Flushing Meadows to minimize noise during the USO.

    No, the facts are there, they are buried deep inside the soon to be enacted National Health Care Act--you'll see--I'm shocked you haven't read it in it's entirety.
     
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  35. sureshs

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    It was quite clear all along what your agenda was.

    Why don't you protest and get toddlers banned from the Slams?

    It is a cause worth fighting for.
     
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  36. tennis tom

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    Agreed, they are fanatical nationalists, and tennis becomes an allegory for war--"better net-heads then dead". There it's one nation against another. It's accepted, expected, and agreed on as part of the ambiance.

    It would be OK to take a kid to a World Team Tennis event--except maybe if Johnny Mac was playing.
     
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  37. tennis tom

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    Clear to you maybe, if you could please elaborate on what my hidden agenda is my team of psychiatrists could take the holidays off and I could save a lot of money.

    Cheers
     
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  38. tennis tom

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    I'm not a student or a professor--I work for a living. If I don't show up I have to fire myself.
     
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    4 words:

    "Dingo ate my baby!"
     
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  40. tennis tom

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    Good one mate!
     
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    I used to hang around on a travel web site. Every now and then, someone would post a question similar to OP: "What are the best toys to bring along when I bring my toddler on a hike through the Amazon jungle?" Folks would freak completely out and grab one another by the throat while the troll would sit back, laughing.

    Ah, good times . . . .
     
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  42. VaththalKuzhambu

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    On second thoughts, I am with Suresh on this issue.

    Bringing children to tournaments is permitted and should be utilized. If opponents are not disturbed by the grunts of Azarenka, Sharapova, Williams, Nadal and Djokovic, they should not be disturbed by a 2-year old either.

    Professional players in other sports are required to concentrate on their game despite tens of thousands of hooligans trying to distract them. If basketball players are expected to score free throws beyond these distractions, tennis players need to get tough - http://guycodeblog.mtv.com/2011/02/10/the-9-craziest-free-throw-distractions-in-basketball/

    As for the fans seated nearby, if they have a problem with the children they can opt to watch the match on TV from the comfort of their couch. No wonder interest in tennis is on the decline among children.
     
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  43. sureshs

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    Most of these tours have age and height restrictions, and make you sign a waiver. I have been on rain forest hikes in Hawaii and no one bought toddlers.

    I think large fat people should be banned from tennis events. They obstruct my view. They should also be banned from all flights.

    When watching a movie in a theater, I try to sit as far as possible from people who bring food and drinks. I can't stand the noise and smell.

    We should also get rid of old farts in tennis clubs. They can't hear well and shout at each other, and crack dirty jokes. Very disturbing if you are on the next court.
     
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    No, she said MOSTLY night matches which means some day matches.

    Yes, I know all about strollers as I have two boys.

    As for fans being bothered we're also talking about tennis professionals being bothered and they have their entire careers on the line as well as AO prize money. They're entertaining us but they're also doing their jobs.

    If a baby acts up it's not like you can whisk the kid out of the stands in a few seconds. If the kid is screaming bloody murder you're going to disrupt the match as thousands of people in the stands, millions of TV viewers, the umpires, and the players wait for you to haul your stupid, incosiderate a** out of your seat, gather up your kid's stuff, and meander out through the seats, to the isle, and eventually out of the stadium.

    Just look at the relatively silent process of removing an adult heat stroke victim from the stands, something that happened on several occassions this year at majors. The match came to a stop. Those were unusual incidents. Anyone who has had kids knows that it WILL happen if you subject a two year old to a three hour match under the hot Australian sun.
     
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  45. Cindysphinx

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    Hey now. We don't know if OP is a she.

    Proposing to take a 2-year-old to a hopelessly inappropriate sporting event has "Dad" written all over it.
     
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    I agree, as long as the weight limit is just beyond what I am packing into my levis.
     
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  47. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    I think it is a terrible idea, frankly.

    Remember, the AO is the best attended tennis event on earth, every court is packed, even out on court 22 at 10 am (ok, so Rafa was practicing, but still :))

    However, if you MUST, here are a couple of things you might be able to do to make it bearable fro all concerned.

    1. forget about taking her to Rod Laver. People will hate you.

    2. the outside courts are actually pretty accessible via stroller, if you get there nice and early you can find a good spot and enjoy the day. There is shade and grassy areas nearby
    (down behind showcourt three especially)

    3. The 'tag-team' idea for the night matches is a pretty good one. The area with the tables and the fountains etc right outside Rod Laver is good for kids as it's nowhere near any of the courts and has plenty of space. (and a big screen)

    4 The showcourts (including Margaret Court) are usually PACKED, and once you leave you won't be able to get back in fro a while, usually, so forget those as well.

    in short, terrible idea, but you can probably manage a good time by haunting the outside courts (where you see some great matches and can be right up close to the big guns practicing quite easily) and keeping your child out of teh arenas

    good luck

    (Melbourne has some excellent commercial child minding/stroke nanny services, just saying..)
     
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  48. sureshs

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    Seriously? Chloe? It is like Cindy.
     
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  49. sureshs

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    Let us compromise and watch the big TV in the garden, OK?
     
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    indeed.. :???:
     
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