Butt Cap Code on Wilson Ultra II

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  1. Virginia

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    I just recently got a Wilson Ultra II on the Bay and I'm hoping someone here can tell me whether or not it's a St. Vincent model.

    The butt cap is white and it has the letters HRO or HRQ. I can't tell whether it's an O or a Q, as there's a little bit of wear at the bottom, where the little Q sqiggle would be if it were a Q.
     
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  2. Bud

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    Yup... probably SV.

    Post a pic if possible.
     
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    It's "HRQ", which is a SV code.
     
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    on many of the SVs the Qs are poorly imprinted with their tails not surviving the imprint process. thus below the W codes ending in O are SV if all other SV criteria are met.
     
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    Are there any Wilson butt cap codes that actually end in "O"?
     
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    NQ..........
     
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  7. Bud

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    I believe some of either the Taiwan or Chinese PS 6.0's ended in 'O'. They are easily discerned from a SV, however.

    Was the Ultra II ever produced in Taiwan/China?
     
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    ultra IIs were no longer produced when the SV facility shut down. some Taiwan prostaffs did have three letter codes ending in O but the code was above the W.
     
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    Thanks RF...

    Was an Ultra II ever produced in Chicago that didn't have the nylon throat piece?

    Also, was it the mid and the OS that initially had the separated throat (nylon/graphite)... or just the OS?
     
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    Yes. Many Taiwanese codes end in "O". Ex: SDO, SGO, SEO....
     
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    Yes, there was, it had the same the graphics, but was part of the classic beam series.

    Also there was a limited edition of the original, released only in Japan a few years ago in a specially designed box!
     
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    The location of the letters is important.....
     
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    The letters are below the red W - and the first two letters are clearly HR - so it looks like the consensus is that it's actually HRQ as opposed to HRO. Thanks, guys. :)

    By the way, this one has boron in it - is that significant?
     
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    I think so, was that the version with the black buttcap(with white W) without any code on it?
     
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    No, it has a red W on a white butt cap, with the code HRQ or HRO.
     
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    The Ultra 2 Mid did not have a nylon thoart peice that I ever saw. The standard and oversize had the separate nylon throat piece. IIRC the Oversize was originally the Galaxy when the Original Ultra Standard came out.
     
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    The Ultra II was also available in standard size?

    Did it share the same head size/shape as the Ultra original?
     
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    So were all the Ultras with black butt caps (with white W) without codes made in Chicago?
     
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    I have a Ultra II with a black buttcap that has a code that is GPQ
     
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    Someone must know about these black buttcapped Ultra II's?
     
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    Wasn't there a limited second run of Ultra 2's just a few years ago, for the Asian market or something like that? Perhaps this is the origin of the black buttcapped U2.

    Just asking. I don't know a whole heck of a lot about Wilson frames; tried them in period, but never care too much for them.
     
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    Well you seem to know about everything else:)

    Anyway, yes there was a limited run in Japan of the Ultra II's a few years ago (came in a nice wooden box)!

    Also like I said earlier there was a classic beam version (or something similar) in the 90's that had the original Ultra II graphics as far as I remember?

    But I'm talking about the Black buttcaps with the white W.
     
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  23. Foxtrot

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    Hey there, this seems to be a very old topic,
    I think your Ultra 2 midsize is a sister of mine!

    Mine is a little bit strange, still i can't decide it's a Chicago or St Vincent one.

    as a Chicago:
    has the collar
    has black butt cap
    has no handle size sticker on the inner side of beams
    BUT
    as a St Vincent
    has no "made in usa" written on beams outside
    has the 3 letters under the white w, and the last one, is a Q. (GOQ)

    here some pics of mine

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    Then, i found some others "hybrid" Ultra 2 Midsize frames, such as this one
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=351374
    and this other one whit single separeted throat grommets
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=245670&page=3

    My Ultra 2 has nothing written in the throat, St Vincent ones have a sticker with the grip size, some other St Vincent have a lot of words, such as these ones http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=354479
    Chicago ones have black buttcap whith no letters printed, St Vincent have white buttcap whith the 3 letter _ _ Q but there ore some frames whit black buttcap whith _ _ Q letters (just as mine) and some other frames whith white buttcap but no printed letters.. i'm going crazy :|

    Finally, this is a rubbish few years ago china-made Japanese Limited Edition
    http://cdn2.iofferphoto.com/img/ite...assic-tennis-racket-japanese-ltd-ed-fec40.jpg is easy to spot 'cause of its larger 93 head.

    Definetly, origins of Ultra 2 midsize frames is a very difficult subject, more than Pro Staff 85, for sure. In U2 there are too many significant characteristics, letters, buttcap colours, collars, stickers, decals, grommets and unfortunately you can meet many mixes of them.
     
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