"Buttery" "Smooth" "Soft" Racquets?

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  1. Tennisaurus

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    Which racquets woud you consider "Buttery", "Smooth", "Soft", etc.
     
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  2. rich s

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    Volkl Tour 10 Gen II MP
     
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    LM Prestige MP
     
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  4. python

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    Volkl c10, any one of the Estusa reproductions of the Puma Boris Becker Super.
     
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  5. ambro

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    Yonex RDX 500 Mid.
     
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    Head i.Radical MP
     
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  7. southpaw37

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    A second vote for this one. Felt like I could put the ball anywhere I wanted to with this stick.
     
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  8. gurj_v

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    Yonex RDX 500 mid is about as "buttery" or as "soft" as you can get.
     
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  9. Greg

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    POG Mid.

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  10. Return_Ace

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    "buttery" hmmmmmmm.....not quite sure, but butter is a lubricant and is slippery, I would describe the RDX500 mid as slippery therefore does it mean its buttery? iono........
     
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  11. bdaniels

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    The ones you have listed as your signature...the 5G and 7G are very smooth and buttery...beautiful racquets.
     
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  12. newnuse

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    Volkl C10 Pro Tour... very soft feeling
     
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  13. mclee025

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    POG midplus with Alpha 2000 16 mains at 56lbs. and Gosen Micro 17 crosses at 53lbs. I specify the strings because before I restrung the racquet it was a pretty harsh playing racquet. After the new strings, the racquet really has a buttery feel to almost every shot I put on the stringbed. It's a great feeling ... JOY! :).
     
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  14. marco forehand

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    I have to recommend the Estusa PB
     
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  15. ShooterMcMarco

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    hi marco. i'm marco.

    6.0 95 :)
     
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  17. dozu

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    these buttery smooth soft terms are almost a pure function of racket flex and shock dampening... although all of the above rackets mentioned are great, to me they are still quite stiff with their flex listed between the high 50's and low 60's.... when you get the stiffness index down to the low 50's, with some sort of shock dampening, then you truly have a buttery racket...... try the racket finder on the TW site, there is NO current model that fits such spec..... you will find some old ones, but the shock dampening is not quite as good as the modern ones.
     
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  18. Tennisaurus

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    I second your vote! :D

    Also, I tried the PK - R this past week end and thought that one was very smooth, as well!
     
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  19. billyboybeacon

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    Volkl C10 pro..very buttery
     
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  20. newnuse

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    Forgot to mention, I've hit with the the C10 Pro Tour model and RDX500 Mid. I'm surprised anybody would call the Yonex buttery smooth. It's kind of pingy, especially compared the C10.
     
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  21. TennsDog

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    Volkl Tour 10 VE, but I would assume other Tour 10's and Volkls in general would have a similar feel.
    I do tend to disagree with the comments about the RDX 500 and Prestige. I played with all three, and those two cannot begin to compare in terms of feel tot he Volkl.
     
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  22. ambro

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    My RDX has a much softer feel than my Volkl T10 VE Mid.
     
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  23. Redflea

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    Ya gotta be kidding...the Yonex RDX Mid is about as far from pingy as we are from Pluto...one of the most smooth, solid racquets out there right now.
     
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  24. ffrpg

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    Dunlop Max 200G, Yonex RD-7, Yonex RDX500, and the Head Prestige Classic.
     
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  25. joe sch

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    Yes and how about the rossignol F series like the F150 that Wilander played
     
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  26. TennsDog

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    I do agree with newnuse that the RDX 500 feels cheap, pingy, and somewhat harsh.
     
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    Wow...to each their own :) The RDX 500 mid was one of the most stable, comfortable racquets that I have hit with recently. This just proves that you have to hit with a frame for yourself rather than go with what others say.
     
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    The Prestige Tour mid, C10 Pro 98", and R-22.
     
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    Prestige Classic
     
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    Get your hands on some of the older frames from the 80's that were made with fibreglass. Like Joe said - Rossignol is well known for flexible frames. Of the current crop - PK Laver series seems to have some feel or if you go back a few years, the Head PT 280 was a nice 90's frame.
     
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  32. ps 6.0

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    To me, soft rackets aren't buttery to me. But if buttery you mean muted, the most muted racket in my bag is the Yonnie MP Tour 1 90. To me the Hyper Pro Staff 6.1 95 or the Prestige Tour Mid feels most buttery to me.
     
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  33. The softest graphite ever produced might have been the Dunlop Max 200G. (Mc Enroe/Graff) USRSA still has specs on it... flex rating at 47. I Seems plausible to me that the early fiberglass and ceramics might have been even more flexible.

    http://www.woodtennis.com/McEnroe/
     
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  34. BreakPoint

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    Buttery smooth?

    Wilson PS 6.0 95
    Dunlop Max 200G
    Yonex RDX 500 Mid
    Head Prestige Classic
    Vantage 90
     
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  35. nw tennis

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    good list


    I agree 100 percent with these four racquets. Very nice "buttery" feel. They make you work, but your work is rewarded.
     
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  36. newnuse

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    No I'm not kidding :mrgreen:

    Racket was strung on the high side with Wilson TNT... felt kinda pingy... not 100% graphite racket pingy, but still a tad pingy

    I actually don't mind pingy rackets. Good feedback
     
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  37. kv581

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    Which racquet is more so, Volkl Tour 10 Gen II or RDX500 mid?
     
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  38. TennsDog

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    If the Gen II is anything like the VE, then the RDX 500 is far more pingy.
     
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  39. BreakPoint

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    I'd say the RDX 500 Mid is more buttery than the Tour 10 Gen II. The RDX 500 Mid felt more stable to me than the Tour 10 Gen II.
     
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  40. takeuchi

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    sorry but can you describe what "buttery" means. I haven't really demoed many rackets so its hard for me to grasp it. the only racket i've demoed is the 03 tour.
     
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  41. mctennis

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    Volkl C10 PT, PK 5G, Volkl C10 Comp
     
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  42. Ronaldo

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    Volkl C7 Pro, 98" head
     
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  43. TennsDog

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    It is kind of hard to explain to someone w/o a good feel for a bunch of different rackets. The feeling is pretty much like what you would expect it to be: soft, usually a longer dwell time from a softer frame, good stability...you almost feel like the stringbed is actually somewhat melding with the ball. It is a racket that does not transmit a lot of shock, but does have good feel. Kinda getting the idea??
     
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  44. Tenny

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    Huh? I wouldn't say POG Mid (93) is buttery. It's kinda harsh (some don't like it) or raw (others like it).

    Wilson Prostaff 6.0 95 was the first one I've experienced.
    Estusa Power braided pro is also buttery.

    Being buttery is different from being flexible. They are flexible of course. But although they are flexible too, head prestige classic (its feel is ...eh, refreshing. Fischer pro No 1 is similar to PC600 IMO) or Volkl C10 (it's too whippy! This one, I didn't like) are not buttery. It's different from being greasy ^^. For me, it's like the racquet is made of very fine quality wood and flex in very good/even/kind way. Buttery racquets make the players happy.
     
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  45. finchy

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    the original 6.0 line (85 & 95), WHEN you hit the sweetspot.

    btw, IMO, POG's are quite stiff.
     
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    either one of the PS orignals with gut...ahhh!
     
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  47. AndrewD

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    Dunlop 200G (the original), nothing comes close. That injection molding gave it a feel totally unlike any racquet before or since. Just pillow soft response but the racquet was solid as a rock. In second place Id put the Head Prestige Pro.

    It's funny hearing that the 200G has a flex rating of 47 because, in the day, people used to complain that it was too stiff. It wasn't stiffness they were feeling but the incredible solidity that the injection process created. Played firmer than it was and when strung at the right tension (in the 40's) it was all sweetspot. No twisting on off-centre hits (no spin either lol), just a solid, reliable, comfortable feel.
     
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  48. BreakPoint

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    Yeah, I know what you mean, AndrewD. I used the Max 200G for 13 years. Now I use the PS 6.0 95. Interpret that any way you 'd like, but I think it means the PS 6.0 95 is about as close to the Max 200G as one will find these days.
     
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  49. Gary Britt

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    Breakpoint, ever use the POG O/S or Mid, how did they compare power and feel wise to the PS 95 you like?

    Gary Britt
     
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  50. BreakPoint

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    Gary,
    I've hit with the POD Mid in the past. Very nice stick, very solid feeling. Has a similar "old school" feel as the PS 6.0 95. I thought the POG Mid was a bit better for groundstrokes due to the extra swingweight, but the PS 6.0 95 better for serves and for volleys due to the more headlight balance and better maneuverability. Thus, overall, I chose the PS 6.0 95 because I thought it suited my game better.
     
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