Bye Marat... Will be missed... what now?

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  1. jcstennis

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    Damn, is this guy going to party tonight or what?! :)

    Too bad to see him go... will we see him again in any capacity concerning tennis?
     
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    Thank goodness he is retired. He used to be a great player, but the last 4 years of his career he has been so overrated it isnt even funny. I am sick of all the hype and delusional fan expectations of a total has been.
     
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    unnecessary. sure, his backhand, movement and consistency is no longer up to par and his heart seems to no longer be in tennis, but marat put up a good fight against delpo today. and he will surely be missed.
     
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    He has done more than you will ever do in your life.

    Go and be miserable somewhere else, whilst we celebrate a wonderful career.
     
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    Del Potro is proving to be the one hit wonder people like Cesc and others were smart enough to recognize he was. Since the U.S Open he has lost to a couple journeymen in his other 2 tournaments, so Safin taking him 3 sets is no great shakes. It doesnt change the fact the hype and delusional fanboy expectations of a player whos struggles to even win matches on tour the last several years let alone make real runs anywhere is welcome to be over with as far as I am concerned.
     
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    Who is the short guy in the middle holding the key?
     
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    what did grammar do to you that you abuse it so??
     
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  9. Topaz

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    I think ESPN should get Marat in the commentator's booth! That would be *gold*!!!
     
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    Yeah Because a Wimbledon semi-final, at the same time becoming a member of the elite "semi-finalist" club, is no major accomplishment :roll:

    Learn some facts before you type. People who know nothing about tennis, and spend all their time on a tennis forum, are pathetic.

    Although having just read your sig, you openly admit you're a moron anyway....Serena the greatest? LOL
     
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    First off all an aging Schuettler was in the semis of the same Wimbledon Safin was, your point? Overall he has had about the same success on tour his final years as someone like an old Schuettler. Secondly I have less than 1 post per day you fool. Thirdly Serena is a hell of alot greater than your beloved Safin will ever be, atleast she will be talked about many years after retiring. If you dont like that not everyone is in mourning that a player who should have retired 4 years ago is gone then tough, go cry yourself a river.
     
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    One of, if not THE, biggest underachievers the sport has ever known. Such a waste of talent.
     
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    I'm very very sad to see him go.The tennis world definitely lost a lot of personality and charm today.:(
     
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  14. Matt H.

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    I watched the first 2 sets while getting ready for work.

    It felt a little bit exhibition-like. Del Po might have kept it close out of respect.
     
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    absolutely. His talent and record are polar opposites. while I like his attitude and game imensly, his "showing" has been extremely poor. I am not offended, insulted by him (personality) but his game/desire irks me. This guy should have been a top 5 player the past 10 years. Too bad he did not have the heart/desire of Lleyton Hewitt, Nadal, and some others. Gos only knows what a monster he could have been. Imagine the great rivalry he would have had with Federer...alas it can only be a dream.
     
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  16. Azzurri

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    today, c'mon. the guy totally wasted his talent. who cares what he did today.
     
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    You don't know the circumstances so I wouldn't be talking. No one does. The man won 2 slams while partying and being drunk most of the time. I'd say that in itself is quite an achievement.
     
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    Exactly. Other than years he missed alot of with a horrible injury like 2003 and 2005 he should have been at minimum a top 5 player, probably most of the time atleast a top 3 player, every single year from 1999-2009. What a complete waste of talent. That will be his biggest legacy, and being a thrash journeyman the final 4 years of his career just makes it that much worse. He could have been part of a legendary rivalry with Federer who he has similar natural talent with, and could have even delayed Nadal's rise to the top as he probably is a better matchup to Nadal than Federer. Instead he will be remembered as a huge dissapointment.
     
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  19. Azzurri

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    I don't disagree a 2 time major winner is a "wonderful" career...but think about how good this guy was and his talent. Then look at all of the 1st and 2nd round losses at majors and jerks he lost to throughout his career...I would not call MARAT'S career wonderful considering his immense talent. Pete Sampras thought this guy was going to rule tennis. he had some great matches and it could have been a lot better.
     
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  20. Azzurri

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    its only been a few months. its the end of the season. he won a major...give the guy a break. He has a bigger game than Novak. Let's see how he does this year. but you are clueless if you think he is already a ONE-HIT wonder...your sig kinda confirms it anyway.
     
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    What is impressive of having potential legend worthy talent and partying most of it away, doing the same stuff your average local joe who doesnt have that rare and unique opportunity to do something truly special can easily do. 2 slams is great if you are a workmanlike player who maxes out your talent like say Kafelnikov, not when you are someone who wasted most of your career like Safin.
     
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  22. Topaz

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    It could be that he over achieved rather than under achieved!
     
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    Had he switched to a bigger racquet, he would have had a longer career.
     
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    Yeah a man who had the talent to beat Federer at his best overachieved to win the same # of slams as Yevgeny Kafelnikov, Patrick Rafter, and Johan Kriek, and fewer slams than Jan Kodes, LOL!
     
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  25. Azzurri

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    I do know the circumstances, as well as you do. I stated 2 majors is a nice-excellent career but NOT for Marat. the guy was just too talented. Check other 2 time winners, he is far above all of those guys in talent and skill.
     
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    I am not a Novak fan but while Del Potro might be the slightly better ball basher (the style both predominantly play) Djokovic has consistency, foot speed, and mental toughness all over Del Potro easily at this point.
     
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    Dude! Why the stupid comment? Safin could have maybe achieved a bit more but was a great player and played a top match today! Go be a kn0b somewhere else.

    viva Marat
     
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    The lack of knowledge on this board amazes me.

    Underachiever?

    The guy has had one of the most injury-riddled careers of all time, and still 2 slams and 5 masters titles.

    Overachiever if anything.

    People need to learn facts about a player before they comment. Pathetic.
     
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  29. Azzurri

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    what??? Mental toughness?? You seriosuly need to re-think your statement. Novak has some issues mentally. Foot speed, yes Novak has that. Consistency..we will see. again, Delpo is only 20. He has had a very nice 18 months. He has gotten better. you are making a judgement far to quickly and its baseless. mental??? no way.
     
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  30. Topaz

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    I love watching Safin play, I think he's an amazing tennis player. Could he have achieved more? Sure, but he achieved a heck of a lot more than most other tennis players (most of whom just dream of winning *one* slam).

    He will be missed.
     
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  31. Azzurri

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    I don't think its a "lack of knowledge". the fact remains Marat had immense talent. After the 00 USO if you asked 100 tennis "experts" how many more COULD this guy win and I guarantee you the # would have been more than 2 by 90%. You miss the point completely. You are clueless to how good this was and the talent he possesed.
     
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    Safin is Safin.It's the way he is there's not point calling him an underachiever and a waste of talent.Because THAT talent comes together with the personality comes together with the broken racquets the fights in bars in Moscow and the hippo interviews.If these things were missing who knows?Most probably the slams would be missing too.
     
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  33. Azzurri

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    confused, so him "wasting" his talent is the reason he won 2 majors and he would have been less of a player if he actually made a bigger commitment??
     
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  34. pound cat

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    Safin is holding the key. The short guy will pick up the key in case Safin drops it.
     
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    Part of "talent" is to be able to play at that level more than once in a blue moon. Safin's peak level may be high, but his average level isn't. He might have won 1 or 2 more slams if he was more focused, but as for as dominating, I doubt it. He's too streaky by nature.
     
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    No.But a great player comes with the whole package,including temper,commitment,concetration all these elements that make for a great player and not just the talent alone.Safin didn't have it,but he had the charm and the personality that made him one of the most likeable and popular tennis players.
     
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    ok, this statement makes more sense to me. I was confused by your other post. thanks.:)
     
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    I think once Marat got the “1 Slam Wonder” monkey off his back, he truly did not care anymore. All of his motivation was gone. He had the epic win over Federer, finally got his Australian Open after 2 previous final appearances, and that was it.

    The talent was always there. Even after an injury prone 2003, he races out to the final of the Australia in Jan 2004. With Roddick as the #1 seed, and Safin having known beef with Roddick, that was motivation to knock him out. Agassi was a legend in Australia, so that semi got him up too.
     
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    Stupidest thing I've ever read on this forum.
     
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    That Classless Federer not showing up to the ceremony.....it Figures....
     
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    A lot of people think Safin could have been Federer-like if he had played to potential, I think he could have won 5 slams at most.
     
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    World #1. 1 USO and 1 AO (with 2 RUs). Also made the semis at the French and Wimby. 5 Masters Series and 2 Davis Cups. Two historic victories in beating Sampras in the 2000 USO final and Federer in the 2005 AO semi. A great career.
     
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  44. Azzurri

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    Great career? so what would you call Becker's, Edberg's, Lendl's? Howe about Borg???
     
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    It just woundn't feel right. Even safin said he wont waste his time being a commeneter when he can do something better.
     
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    Look at all the wimps bashing Safin. What have you done lately, besides wear out your keyboard?

    As for Safin's career, yeah, we all wanted more titles, but that is the way it goes sometimes. Face it, we are unique to have been able to watch such a great and interesting talent. There will always be some new talent, but this is our experience, and no little 16 year old hater who missed the boat can take that away. Sorry punks, back to Serena's nuts you go.
     
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    I am glad he's gone. Now we concentrate on good players instead of chewing those 2 wins over a 10 year career of this mental midget.
     
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    In addition to the accomplishments others mentioned, he was 1 of 5 active players to get to the semifinals of all 4 grand slams. Yeah...not too shabby.
     
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